That the reason I asking...
I always thinking,
How many percent of performance jump from i750 to i860 , if I pay RM300 additional? single dollar = how many % performance increase.
How many Percent of performance improve if change the value ram to OCing Ram? if I pay RM100~RM200 more?
How many percent of Performance improve if overclocking , if I pay RM200++ ~ RM300 to build a better cooler system?

As Clawhammer point out, SSD does improve a lot, because we always facing the bottleneck in I/O of HDD.
Is it I should invest more money into SSD, as RM800++ ~RM900, it does improve a lot?

I am the one work hard to earn the money, so I always try to make every single dollar spend is worth it,

First of all, we have to understand what each and every component does and how it impacts the overall performance of the PC. CPU's today are very powerful and unlike decades ago, CPU's are no longer the bottleneck. If you have a slower CPU, it only means you complete certain tasks slower. It wouldn't hurt if it takes extra 30 seconds to unzip a file (for example) It would only hurt if your PC hangs due to insufficient processing power but these days, chances of it happening is very minimal as technology is very advanced. If you're into compression, rendering, etc which uses a lot of CPU processing power then yes, it makes sense to invest on an expensive CPU. If you're a normal home user that mainly wants to enjoy some games, Internet, etc then invest on a higher end graphics card. A Q6600 with a GTX 295 will still beat an i7 870 with a GT240.

Good RAMs are to compliment high overclocks and if you don't overclock, forget about getting expensive RAM's. RAM's these days are also a lot better than the past and trust me, even those cheap Value RAM would get a 4Ghz OC easily except it runs on crappy CL9 timings. The latency matters a lot if you do benchmarks but in real life experiences, you don't really feel a lot of differences. You spend RM1500 for a Dominator GT RAM, you get a good overclock and tight timings, your 3Dmark scores or whatever benchmarks would show you have a Godlike rig and the numbers are a "WOW" factor to some people. However, the other guy running on Value RAM with an SSD boots up 5-10 seconds faster than you, his games load faster than yours and everything he clicks pops up instantly Hence, you decide which one is more practical and suitable for you. This is also to prove that conventional platter drives are somewhat the bottleneck of a fast system.

I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to invest on expensive high end hardwares. Enthusiasts like me do it for the hobby and passion. We enjoy overclocking and exploring new hardwares so yes, we will spend money on all these Dominator GT RAM's, expensive CPU's, motherboards and stuffs because that's what we enjoy doing. However if you're talking about practicality then that's another story. Hence, ask yourself whether you're doing it for the fun or practicality. Come to think of it, my home PC is even more powerful than some servers in the office Last but not least, all my remarks are purely based on my real life experiences, not from reading reviews so rest assured that these are genuine experiences. It's obviously fun but at the same time, we burn a lot of cash

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Feb 25 2010, 04:09 PM

When trying to enter windows :

Failed to load windows. First message was:

"The file is possibly corrupt. The file header checksum does not match the computed checksum"

Then I restart again, no more message. Problem to boot Win:

"Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause.

If windows files have been damaged or configured incorrectly, startup repair can help diagnose and fix the problem. If power was interrupted during startup, choose start windows normally.

Launch startup repair (Recommended)
Start windows normally."

Try to launch startup repair but nothing happened(looks like it hang). Restart again and it hang.

Have you tried reseating your CPU and RAM? sometimes that could be the culprit.

Already tried it..... Same also.

take out your battery.. and put it back after around 45sec...

Problem solved. It's the RAM setting that cause the problem. Thank you very much to Clawhammer for helping me a lot.

Performance Enhance [Standard]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch [200Mhz]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [4.0D]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) 1066 1600

Can't set the (G)MCH to 400, only 200. Than I can get 1600 FSB and RAM 1600 Mhz

Attach is the screen shoot. For the moment, try all voltage auto except RAM set to 1.8v

Well done azrys and happy overclocking E8400 E0's can easily do 4Ghz.

at last the old-timer oc'er have share his old knowledge and his passion..

to TS, you can choose which best for your setup, either the pc is for working or just for fun gaming...

i think better you spend on SSD instead of expensive high timings RAM (which gives better result for overclocking ofor benchmarking~), if you see 80GB is too expensive, you can always go for the other smaller capacity, 30GB, 60GB SSD instead. i think it should be enough to store an OS, while for program and gaming you can put inside the primary HDD which has a larger capacity. Eventhough the smaller 30GB - 60GB is not as fast as the 80GB intel SSD, but still you can feel the difference when you're done correctly on the setting. If you have more budget to go to 80GB SSD, i personally recommend you to pickup the 30GB X2 or 60GB x 2 SSD which is set to RAID0, which seem a faster than a single 80GB SSD itself

How about using 2 Samsung F3 1TB setup raid 0?
Will it performance closer to SSD?
What is thing /step need for setup Raid 0?

The main difference between SSD and conventional hard disk is the "random access time". Conventional hard disk has platters and it needs to spin so that data can be retrieved while SSD are in flash memory hence everything is a lot faster. The Samsung F3 is another platter based hard disk so even if you hook 4 units up in RAID-0, the SSD would still be faster in terms of "random access" and this would mean everything literally pops up a lot faster when you click on them In my own personal comparison, a single SSD non-RAID beat my 2 x 74GB Raptor ADFD in RAID-0 by a fair margin

sorry.... I just go to check N520 Cooler Master... It only say support i7 Processor.... Does it prefect fit with Intel i5 750?

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?ca...product_id=5983

You have to see the pin..
It's 1366 and 775.
I think yours is 1156..

it will not supported by your cpu.. it just support core i7 which are used socket 1366 while u are using socket 1156.. but you also can try cooler master hyper tx3..even it does not perform as well as hyper N520.. but it was quite good in performance.. and it also affordable price..

you also can looking at another brand like thermaltake.. they are also good perform brand on cooler system hardware...

Hello, TS mind tumpang thread? can anyone help me with overclocking with my rig below?

A good guide, simple and easy to understand:

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclockin...-beginners.html

Hope it helps and sorry for the OT

Hmm.... where can I learn to set the voltage for my mobo? If there is any guide or specific calculation? Coz now i'm setting my voltage auto. Some reviews says it's not good to put the voltage on auto. The problem is too many setting and a lot of different setting teach by different people. Make me confused. Now i'm switching back to normal coz didn't know the correct setting for the voltage. Mobo=EP43T-DS3L Proc=E8400. Can see my setting in previous post. TQ.