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TSncleon
post Feb 23 2010, 04:57 PM, updated 16y ago

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Dear All Expert and Senior,

Current I plan to buy a new PC with Budget Around RM4+ ,
But not more then 4.8k (Included Everything, except Keyboard, Mouse, Speaker).


Processor: QUAD CORE i5-750 RM 685
Mainboard: Asus P7P55D-E Pro RM 675
RAM: Corsair TWIN3X4G1333C9DHX RM 439
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB RM 260
LCD: Acer X233H RM 599
Casing : COOLER MASTER CM-600 RM 239
PowerSupply: Corsair HX UK 750W RM 685
DVD RW: SAMSUNG DVD RW RM 75
Sound Card: Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 (PCIe 1X) RM 599
Total: RM 4256


Temporary Use
GPU: 8800GT (Took from Old PC SLI tongue.gif)

Future Upgrade (waiting Price drop)
GPU: Sapphire HD5850 1GB DDR5 RM 999


So What are the thing I need to add on, or change to make my PC ready for Overclock?


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post Feb 23 2010, 05:25 PM

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knowledge first... you must know about the risk of overclocking...
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post Feb 23 2010, 05:32 PM

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Your setup is fine and obviously can be easily overclocked. As of how far you can go, that would depend on the capability of your CPU and RAM (primarily).
TSncleon
post Feb 23 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 23 2010, 05:32 PM)
Your setup is fine and obviously can be easily overclocked. As of how far you can go, that would depend on the capability of your CPU and RAM (primarily).
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hmm.gif Do I need to buy the additional CPU Cooler as cooler master Hyper 212 ?
And added more FAN inside the case? Any recommended Value of Money Fan?

Those RM40 Thermal Paste , is it ok already?


Added on February 23, 2010, 5:41 pm
QUOTE(razo007 @ Feb 23 2010, 05:25 PM)
knowledge first... you must know about the risk of overclocking...
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nod.gif thanks. I read a bit... majority say .. reasonable overclocking is ok.

sweat.gif but I dun know what is the Reasonable OC my rig can go....

This post has been edited by ncleon: Feb 23 2010, 05:41 PM
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post Feb 23 2010, 05:46 PM

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get the cheapo stuff to ensure ur high orgasm in ocing whistling.gif
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post Feb 23 2010, 05:47 PM

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depends on your cooling system and your motherboard plays too... anyway.. try oc your system little bit first.. then.. look at the temp reading..

with more efficient cooling system.. you will get more oced result... and about cpu cooler.. you don't have to see at hyper 212.. but you can look at CM N520 or CM V8 or V10.. you case still can support it... and you also can add more fan into your casing for more cooling performance...


Added on February 23, 2010, 5:48 pmfan..

what brand..?? try to get a big size fan with low rpm.. it will make your pc more cool and silent...

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post Feb 23 2010, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(ncleon @ Feb 23 2010, 05:37 PM)
hmm.gif Do I need to buy the additional CPU Cooler as cooler master Hyper 212 ?
And added more FAN inside the case? Any recommended Value of Money Fan?

Those RM40 Thermal Paste , is it ok already?
To be honest, all CPU's these days would allow you to have a quick and easy overclock without having the need to increase any voltage or changing to a better HSF. The question is how far you would want to go. If assuming you want 4Ghz then obviously you will have to invest on a better cooler, better fans, etc. Don't worry about the motherboard, even a cheap H55 board can easily clock the i3 to 4.5Ghz smile.gif Technology these days are a lot better.
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post Feb 23 2010, 05:52 PM

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A good cpu cooler helps a lot.

Good luck and don't brick your system biggrin.gif

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razo007
post Feb 23 2010, 05:59 PM

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yes.. cpu cooler helps a lot.. in overclocking.. you need to play with voltage to get better result... so it will increase your cpu temp...
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post Feb 24 2010, 02:51 AM

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Sorry, noob question. How to "play" with the voltage coz I can see many setting for the voltage..... my mobo is EP43T-UD3L. It's suitable to OC? Just to get my FSB to 1600Mhz.
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post Feb 24 2010, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(ncleon @ Feb 23 2010, 05:37 PM)
hmm.gif Do I need to buy the additional CPU Cooler as cooler master Hyper 212 ?
And added more FAN inside the case? Any recommended Value of Money Fan?

Those RM40 Thermal Paste , is it ok already?


if you intend to oc your rig, get that additional cpu cooler
you'll see the difference oc'ing your system using stock hsf and using other cpu cooler
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post Feb 24 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(azrys @ Feb 24 2010, 02:51 AM)
Sorry, noob question. How to "play" with the voltage coz I can see many setting for the voltage..... my mobo is EP43T-UD3L. It's suitable to OC? Just to get my FSB to 1600Mhz.
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There are so many types of voltages and it controls different things. If you totally have no idea what they are about, going through some beginner OC guides would certainly help smile.gif Normally when you overclock your CPU speed, you are indirectly overclocking your RAM.
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post Feb 24 2010, 01:21 PM

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In term of Performance view, should I speed money on Solid State Drive with my budget?

Does Solid state drive value of money in term of performance view?
I means like investment more money in HDD instead of Processor.

review as below.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2010/02/1...128gb-review/10

Intel X25M 80GB RM899

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post Feb 24 2010, 10:30 PM

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The very reason that people are staying away from SSD is that
the price vs storage ratio is very steep. in a new build, most if not all will prefer large storage space compared to faster loading time.

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post Feb 25 2010, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 24 2010, 12:43 PM)
There are so many types of voltages and it controls different things. If you totally have no idea what they are about, going through some beginner OC guides would certainly help smile.gif Normally when you overclock your CPU speed, you are indirectly overclocking your RAM.
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Can I know where to find about the setting coz I'm having problem to OC my PC.

SETTING IN BIOS (MIT)

Robust Graphics Booster [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio [9.0X]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [+0.0]
CPU Frequency 3.60GHz ( 400x9)

******** Clock Chip Control ********

>>>>> Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control [Enabled]
x CPU Host Frequency [400]
PCI Express Frequency [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]

******** DRAM Performance Control ********

Performance Enhance [Standard]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch [400Mhz]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [4.0D]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) 1066 1600
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) [Manual]

>>>>> Standard Timing Control

x CAS Latency Time 7 [9]
x tRCD 7 [9]
x tRP 7 [9]
x tRAS 20 [24]

>>>>> Advanced Timing Control
Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]

******** Mother Board Voltage Control ********
Voltage Types Normal Current
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> CPU
Load-Line Calibration (Disabled)
CPU Vcore 1.25000V (1.28125V)
CPU Termination 1.200V (1.260V)
CPU PLL 1.550V (1.550V)
CPU Reference 0.805V (auto)

>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core 1.100V (1.240V)
MCH Reference 0.760V (auto)
ICH I/O 1.550V (auto)
ICH Core 1.100V (1.200V)

>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500V (1.800V)
DRAM termination 0.750V (auto)

Where I made a mistake?

MOBO is GIGABYTE EP43T-UD3L

PROC E8400 Wolfdale EO

RAM Corsair Dorminator 2X2GB DDR3 1600C9DHX (currently running at 1066MHZ or max 1333Mhz coz failed to OC my CPU FSB to 1600)

This post has been edited by azrys: Feb 25 2010, 12:41 AM
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post Feb 25 2010, 03:56 AM

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if you don't know about playing voltage.. you can set the voltage to auto.. it will more easily and safety... just upping the FSB or cpu multiplier only...
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post Feb 25 2010, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(razo007 @ Feb 25 2010, 04:56 AM)
if you don't know about playing voltage.. you can set the voltage to auto.. it will more easily and safety... just upping the FSB or cpu multiplier only...
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Have try to set to auto, but didn't work. That's why I'm confused. Why auto can't working???
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QUOTE(redrabbit @ Feb 24 2010, 10:30 PM)
The very reason that people are staying away from SSD is that
the price vs storage ratio is very steep. in a new build, most if not all will prefer large storage space compared to faster loading time.
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That's not very true. People would normally want their OS drive to be fast so everything is a lot snappier and it's for the same reason why people buy Raptor drives when SSD hasn't existed. If there is a cheap and good method to store the whole OS in RAM permanently without losing data when you power off, many people would be doing that as well. You're paying the money for the speed which SSD's can offer, not the space. A typical setup is to have the SSD storing your OS, programs, etc and all other things in a conventional 1TB drives as storage/backup.

If you have not tried a properly configured SSD system, it would be very difficult for you to understand how good/fast is the SSD. You need to understand that the current bottleneck in most modern computers are I/O devices, not your CPU, RAM or board. By having an SSD, you are actually closing the "bottleneck" gap. For example in my PC, I can start Office applications in 1 second, Photoshop 64 in 3-4 seconds, boots up Windows in less than 15 secs. Far Cry 2 game loading is also easily 50% faster compared to my previous Raptor RAID-0 setup.

QUOTE(azrys @ Feb 25 2010, 12:38 AM)
Can I know where to find about the setting coz I'm having problem to OC my PC.

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Before that, what is the problem you are having?
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post Feb 25 2010, 11:14 AM

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it will work.. or if your CPU have energy saver technology just disable it.. like my CPU.. i'm using AMD that have cool and quite function.. so just disable it to allow oc.. i don't know much about intel CPU.. but you can try to disable any power saver technology...
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 25 2010, 10:57 AM)
That's not very true. People would normally want their OS drive to be fast so everything is a lot snappier and it's for the same reason why people buy Raptor drives when SSD hasn't existed. If there is a cheap and good method to store the whole OS in RAM permanently without losing data when you power off, many people would be doing that as well. You're paying the money for the speed which SSD's can offer, not the space. A typical setup is to have the SSD storing your OS, programs, etc and all other things in a conventional 1TB drives as storage/backup.

If you have not tried a properly configured SSD system, it would be very difficult for you to understand how good/fast is the SSD. You need to understand that the current bottleneck in most modern computers are I/O devices, not your CPU, RAM or board. By having an SSD, you are actually closing the "bottleneck" gap. For example in my PC, I can start Office applications in 1 second, Photoshop 64 in 3-4 seconds, boots up Windows in less than 15 secs. Far Cry 2 game loading is also easily 50% faster compared to my previous Raptor RAID-0 setup.
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SSD really a god made, but the price still very high, want buy also no budget.. sad.gif

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