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 How to make my Build ready for Overclock?, Never OC before... wanna to learn...

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post Feb 23 2010, 05:32 PM

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Your setup is fine and obviously can be easily overclocked. As of how far you can go, that would depend on the capability of your CPU and RAM (primarily).
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post Feb 23 2010, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(ncleon @ Feb 23 2010, 05:37 PM)
hmm.gif Do I need to buy the additional CPU Cooler as cooler master Hyper 212 ?
And added more FAN inside the case? Any recommended Value of Money Fan?

Those RM40 Thermal Paste , is it ok already?
To be honest, all CPU's these days would allow you to have a quick and easy overclock without having the need to increase any voltage or changing to a better HSF. The question is how far you would want to go. If assuming you want 4Ghz then obviously you will have to invest on a better cooler, better fans, etc. Don't worry about the motherboard, even a cheap H55 board can easily clock the i3 to 4.5Ghz smile.gif Technology these days are a lot better.
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post Feb 24 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(azrys @ Feb 24 2010, 02:51 AM)
Sorry, noob question. How to "play" with the voltage coz I can see many setting for the voltage..... my mobo is EP43T-UD3L. It's suitable to OC? Just to get my FSB to 1600Mhz.
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There are so many types of voltages and it controls different things. If you totally have no idea what they are about, going through some beginner OC guides would certainly help smile.gif Normally when you overclock your CPU speed, you are indirectly overclocking your RAM.
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post Feb 25 2010, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(redrabbit @ Feb 24 2010, 10:30 PM)
The very reason that people are staying away from SSD is that
the price vs storage ratio is very steep. in a new build, most if not all will prefer large storage space compared to faster loading time.
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That's not very true. People would normally want their OS drive to be fast so everything is a lot snappier and it's for the same reason why people buy Raptor drives when SSD hasn't existed. If there is a cheap and good method to store the whole OS in RAM permanently without losing data when you power off, many people would be doing that as well. You're paying the money for the speed which SSD's can offer, not the space. A typical setup is to have the SSD storing your OS, programs, etc and all other things in a conventional 1TB drives as storage/backup.

If you have not tried a properly configured SSD system, it would be very difficult for you to understand how good/fast is the SSD. You need to understand that the current bottleneck in most modern computers are I/O devices, not your CPU, RAM or board. By having an SSD, you are actually closing the "bottleneck" gap. For example in my PC, I can start Office applications in 1 second, Photoshop 64 in 3-4 seconds, boots up Windows in less than 15 secs. Far Cry 2 game loading is also easily 50% faster compared to my previous Raptor RAID-0 setup.

QUOTE(azrys @ Feb 25 2010, 12:38 AM)
Can I know where to find about the setting coz I'm having problem to OC my PC.

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Before that, what is the problem you are having?
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post Feb 25 2010, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(ncleon @ Feb 25 2010, 02:41 PM)
notworthy.gif That the reason I asking...
I always thinking,
How many percent of performance jump from i750 to i860 , if I pay RM300 additional? single dollar = how many % performance increase.
How many Percent of performance improve if change the value ram to OCing Ram? if I pay RM100~RM200 more?
How many percent of Performance improve if overclocking , if I pay RM200++ ~ RM300 to build a better cooler system?

As Clawhammer point out, SSD does improve a lot, because we always facing the bottleneck in I/O of HDD.
Is it I should invest more money into SSD, as RM800++ ~RM900, it does improve a lot?

smile.gif I am the one work hard to earn the money, so I always try to make every single dollar spend is worth it,    tongue.gif
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First of all, we have to understand what each and every component does and how it impacts the overall performance of the PC. CPU's today are very powerful and unlike decades ago, CPU's are no longer the bottleneck. If you have a slower CPU, it only means you complete certain tasks slower. It wouldn't hurt if it takes extra 30 seconds to unzip a file (for example) smile.gif It would only hurt if your PC hangs due to insufficient processing power but these days, chances of it happening is very minimal as technology is very advanced. If you're into compression, rendering, etc which uses a lot of CPU processing power then yes, it makes sense to invest on an expensive CPU. If you're a normal home user that mainly wants to enjoy some games, Internet, etc then invest on a higher end graphics card. A Q6600 with a GTX 295 will still beat an i7 870 with a GT240.

Good RAMs are to compliment high overclocks and if you don't overclock, forget about getting expensive RAM's. RAM's these days are also a lot better than the past and trust me, even those cheap Value RAM would get a 4Ghz OC easily except it runs on crappy CL9 timings. The latency matters a lot if you do benchmarks but in real life experiences, you don't really feel a lot of differences. You spend RM1500 for a Dominator GT RAM, you get a good overclock and tight timings, your 3Dmark scores or whatever benchmarks would show you have a Godlike rig and the numbers are a "WOW" factor to some people. However, the other guy running on Value RAM with an SSD boots up 5-10 seconds faster than you, his games load faster than yours and everything he clicks pops up instantly smile.gif Hence, you decide which one is more practical and suitable for you. This is also to prove that conventional platter drives are somewhat the bottleneck of a fast system.

I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to invest on expensive high end hardwares. Enthusiasts like me do it for the hobby and passion. We enjoy overclocking and exploring new hardwares so yes, we will spend money on all these Dominator GT RAM's, expensive CPU's, motherboards and stuffs because that's what we enjoy doing. However if you're talking about practicality then that's another story. Hence, ask yourself whether you're doing it for the fun or practicality. Come to think of it, my home PC is even more powerful than some servers in the office smile.gif Last but not least, all my remarks are purely based on my real life experiences, not from reading reviews so rest assured that these are genuine experiences. It's obviously fun but at the same time, we burn a lot of cash laugh.gif

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post Feb 28 2010, 05:27 PM

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Well done azrys and happy overclocking smile.gif E8400 E0's can easily do 4Ghz.
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post Mar 3 2010, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(ncleon @ Mar 2 2010, 02:10 PM)
How about using 2 Samsung F3 1TB setup raid 0?
Will it performance closer to SSD?
What is thing /step need for setup Raid 0?
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The main difference between SSD and conventional hard disk is the "random access time". Conventional hard disk has platters and it needs to spin so that data can be retrieved while SSD are in flash memory hence everything is a lot faster. The Samsung F3 is another platter based hard disk so even if you hook 4 units up in RAID-0, the SSD would still be faster in terms of "random access" and this would mean everything literally pops up a lot faster when you click on them smile.gif In my own personal comparison, a single SSD non-RAID beat my 2 x 74GB Raptor ADFD in RAID-0 by a fair margin biggrin.gif

 

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