totally agree... besides the 32bit ECU, nothing interest me in the new face lift... i had KIV my booking for the M line due to the face lift H-line, but i think now i will proceed with the M-line... the sales agent told me that the new face lift H-line cost RM2200 more than the previous H-line.

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Added on March 3, 2010, 8:55 pmi think you need to follow up with your sales agent and ask him to chase the bank. Mine settle all within one week.

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 3 2010, 08:55 PM

i think it is worth to install the pivot raizin blue. what mention about the benefit is quite true. i myself had install the pivot raizin blue in my old citroen. it really does help. but on the other hand, i don't think you need to install it into a new car. coz what my car mechanic guy said, don't waste money to install pivot on new cars, bcos car is still new and new wire should be enough to supply electricity for the car.

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Added on March 3, 2010, 9:18 pmi check the price with my SA yesterday, he said should be around that price.
and also asked whether the car will be in the showroom this coming friday, he said no memo from HQ yet. normally it will take a week for the car to arrive the showroom after they receive the memo.

the major different between SE and New H-line should be the 32bit ECU and the auto cruise, i think... beside body kit, rim, brake lights

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 3 2010, 09:49 PM


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i wonder how much the 32 bit ECU will cost... is it same as the Exora ECU?

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 3 2010, 09:40 PM

have anyone try to fit tire size 205 60 R15 in to the ori sport rim of persona?

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Added on March 3, 2010, 8:55 pm
i think you need to follow up with your sales agent and ask him to chase the bank. Mine settle all within one week.

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i did follow up,
but they say proton dint send da car yet
n yesterday i go to their show room n i talk to the manager,
he oso cant tell me when i can get my car,
last he say he will exchange 1 of their car to another branch to get my car

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good to hear that you had settle the thing share some of your experience with us once you get the car ya!

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Added on March 5, 2010, 7:55 pm[quote=naley,Mar 5 2010, 03:54 PM]
haha..seems like he pour the whole bottle..but who knows right? hehehe

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i think you can check the oil indicator... all of the cars do have one... you need to run your engine for few minutes, then turn off engine and check the oil indicator. the oil should be in the recommended zone area, any reading not in the recommended zone means you have to do something about it.

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[quote=alt3ch,Mar 5 2010, 10:20 PM]
good to hear that you had settle the thing share some of your experience with us once you get the car ya!

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Added on March 5, 2010, 7:55 pm
i think you can check the oil indicator... all of the cars do have one... you need to run your engine for few minutes, then turn off engine and check the oil indicator. the oil should be in the recommended zone area, any reading not in the recommended zone means you have to do something about it.

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i thought we should check the lubricant oil when the engine is cold? all this while i am checking it when it was cold in the morning. because if the engine is started, of cos it will should lower level as the oil start to stick on the other parts in the internal of engine. we need give it sometime for all the lubricant oil to drop to the base before we get the measurement. as for the automatic gear oil, i know it need to let the engine warm up first before we take the measurement. correct me if i am wrong....

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actually is a interesting info to share on this... usually the mechanic (not proton service center) will do this way... i don't know why, seems that most of the mechanic will warm up the oil a bit then only measure

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Added on March 5, 2010, 11:00 pm[quote=rckh,Mar 5 2010, 09:59 PM]
The part on Oils explained and Oil grades should make interesting reading -


http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/

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thanks for sharing... it is indeed very interesting...

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Added on March 5, 2010, 11:35 pm[quote=chteh0721,Mar 5 2010, 09:19 PM]


my persona warranty mileage only shown as 50,000km in their system.

i thought the warranty should be at least 100,000km?

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ya, why huh? the catalog of the persona says under 5 years warranty or 175,000km which ever comes first... how come the bill says 50,000km only???
i did ask the SA last time on this issue, he said that the first 2 years is warranty under proton, and the rest of the 3 years extended is warranty under alliance insurance. And the other thing is, What is the standard service interval? The catalog says is 10,000km. is it true?

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 5 2010, 11:38 PM

well, this is what they always say. once you throw some money into your car, you will feel satisfy

GUYS! i got somethings interesting info to share out with you all... I had done some search on this thing called MAGNETRAP that SC ask you to install when you go for service... have a look at the following link and judge yourself...

Fuel Saving Things That is not what seem to be




and some of the ppl also commented the following:

In the unlikely event that an oil filter is thoroughly clogged due to the user not having it changed for a long time, say after 20-30000 km, a safety valve opens to allow the dirty oil to recycle back into the engine. The engine will still run but but it would suffer from extreme damage due to excessive particles reintroduced back into the engine. Eventually the engine will overheat and fail.

The magnetrap is meant to trap these excessive particles to stick to the inner walls of the tin can, thus being a second filter for the oil.


B U T ,

Both the pistons and the engine block, which creates the particles due to abrasion caused by the pistons vigorously rubbing up and down the bores, are made of ALUMINUM ALLOY.

A Q U E S T I O N ...

Since when aluminum can be ATTRACTED by magnets?

D O N ' T B E L I E V E?

Use a magnet and try to stick it to the engine block.

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Added on March 8, 2010, 9:20 pmwow... i think i will drop by either the HQ in shah alam or the platinum proton showroom in damansara to have a look... i'm sure they will have the sample cars there...

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Added on March 8, 2010, 9:23 pmhave you check you batt in the remote? sometimes a weak batt will make it hard to deliver the signal to the car

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 8 2010, 09:23 PM

just went to the HQ of poton today... no luck on sneak peek at the new facelift

wow... still have to wait till 18th !!!
i thought 14th !!!!
i had ask the SA to KIV my documents to get the car due to this new facelift...

today my SA just called and inform that 18th will launch and had help book a test drive on the 20th...
he also said that the facelift is only for H-Line...
that is why H-Line had been stop production in year 2009. After the stop production of the H-line, then comes the SE...
and now SE stop production, then comes the facelift of H-Line...
The SA still don't have any clue what modification had been done under the hood.
But other than that, signal light side mirror, body kit, rims, tail lights are as the spy pictures attached earlier...[FONT=Times][COLOR=purple]

how come this is B Line? i thought the SA said that it is only for the H line???
Then good la... I can't want to see what is install for the M Line... hope it is worth the waiting...

same case here... my loan has approve for the M line too...
as the facelift is around the corner... might as well wait for it...
ask your SA to confirm on the interest rate... getting the old rate will same you a lot in the long run...
getting which version is up to you... for me, i will wait for the new version and have a test drive first...
i don't' fancy what they had done to the outer part of the car... what i'm looking forward to is the 32bit ECU in the engine.
heard a lot of ppl complain on the FC in persona... and i do hope that 32bit ECU will rectify this and i won't mind paying the extra 2k for it, coz you will safe money in the long run...

for your info also... i will put ray tech CS85 film on my car window... i think it looks cool for the car...

Patdidi: are you sure? coz the spy pictures taken has no sport rims and no audio controls on the steering wheel...
we predicted that it is for the base line...

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 14 2010, 08:31 PM

from the net, the new persona really looks nice..
tomorrow is the big day to view the car... YEAH!

i when to see the latest persona today... and here are my personal point of view:

1. Front bumper - is better looking than the original, but when have a closer look, the quality looks cheap.
2. Rear spoiler - the original looks better
3. Side mirror with signal lights - i like it
4. Rear Brake lights - do i need to say more? everyone loves it!
5. New Sport Rim - the original looks better
6. Audio Unit - although it comes with AUX and USB, it looks cheap
7. Illuminated Meter - Like it (it is more brighter than the original)
8. 2 toned dashboard - the original is better looking...
9. Upholstery - for the B Line and M Line is WORST! yes... WORST! the fabric is so cheap!!!!
10. New Color - Bronze Garnet and Chiffon Green, both i like.
11. 32bit ECU - NO INFO whether it is installed
12. Performance - TBA
13. FC - TBA

Summary:

The New Persona "ELEGANCE" is not up to it's name... coz it is not ELEGANT at all due to the materials presented...

With the selling price RM 56k for the M-Line facelift, i would advise buying the Original H-Line, coz you will have ABS, EBD n two air bag

with the selling price near RM 60k for the H-Line facelift, i would advise buying the SE, coz you not only have full spec, but you also have a more ELEGANT looking car!

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 18 2010, 08:36 PM

just came back from the test drive both of the persona elegance and the original version. the engine for the elegance felt more smooth that the previous version - in terms of gear change and overtaking. the power is a bit more in terms of torque compared to the ori version. the sit is more comfortable on the elegance. handling is the same.

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Added on March 20, 2010, 4:32 pmtotally agree on that... i had booked chiffon green for first option and bronze garnet for second option.

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 20 2010, 04:32 PM

I booked the M-Line... the deal are as follow:
1. RM300 rebate
2. Smart Tag c/w RM50 touch n go
3. Full Tank
4. Crystal Number Plate
5. Normal Tinted film for all window include front and rear. But i top up and upgrade to RAY-TECH CS08 security film.
6. GPS (included in promotion)
7. Sand blast car number plant for all window
8. Steering Lock
9. Special edition golf umbrella
10. 8" wide tinted film for the upper front wind screen.
11. Free oil filter for the first three service

Had tried to ask for the following but fail:
1. 4G pen drive
2. Mini Fire extinguish
3. Car shampoo
4. Turtle Car Wax
5. Sun Shade
6. Mini car vacuum
7. Tire Polish

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Added on March 21, 2010, 12:00 ammegat89, when you ask them this. they will answer you "no budget"

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Added on March 21, 2010, 12:08 amhere got a lot of ppl liked the Chiffon Green... but the my SA said he got lots of order for Bronze Garnet...
actually i do like Bronze Garnet more than Chiffon Green, but i don't want to be in the waiting list that long, so i decided to book chiffon green instead.
You submitted your document to the bank?

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 21 2010, 12:08 AM

besides the engine response is smooth and sensitive. there is also some little things that they added into the elegance claim by the SA.

1. the meter light will be on when you on the engine regardless you switch on your head lights.
2. the meter light will dim a bit when you on your head lights.
3. the cooler fan for the inter cooler will keep running until your engine temperature cools down regardless you switch off your engine.
4. the hose for IAFM is larger in diameter compared to the previous.

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Added on March 21, 2010, 12:24 amagree. good thing i KIV the getting the car and wait for the facelift to launch...

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 21 2010, 12:24 AM

the sales office is in old klang road. actually it alll depends on your nego with your SA. i went to many sales office and ask for the best offer... so far this SA give me the most offer. and one thing, don't go to those proton edar sales office, normally they can't give much offer... try those proton "wakil jualan", those SA will give more and you can bargain with them...

actually i'm not the getting the best offer... my colleague is getting RM1k plus full tank petrol for the M-Line Persona (Auto). She gets the car on Oct last year. I was aiming for that RM1k without freebies... but none of the SA want to do my business