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TSKing83
post Feb 20 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Feb 20 2010, 10:53 PM)
a true rpg gamer will know how to differentiate between rpg and other genres... a definition is useless cus different user will give different opinion.
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my definition of RPG is the 90's definition

- leveling
- stats
- items/equipment
- cities to visit
- random monster encounters
- main story

i dunno who changed the term or why devs got confuse
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Feb 20 2010, 10:56 PM)
my definition of RPG is the 90's definition

- leveling
- stats
- items/equipment
- cities to visit
- random monster encounters
- main story

i dunno who changed the term or why devs got confuse
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Just let them be, as long as we are still able to "RPG" the way we think it is.
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Feb 20 2010, 10:56 PM)
my definition of RPG is the 90's definition

- leveling
- stats
- items/equipment
- cities to visit
- random monster encounters
- main story

i dunno who changed the term or why devs got confuse
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doesn't looks like definition to me. more like characteristic.

the name already indicates the definition. role-playing game. you play someone role. characteristic? you know what they are.

conclusion: either word play or ts phailed english.
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:09 PM

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Not failed English, you do take on roles on other genres as well which is an undeniable fact. Just that the gameplay of other genres are quite different from the RPG we are so used to.
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post Feb 21 2010, 12:00 AM

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i am playing RPG now. I role a character called 'superxboy' and typing nonsense now tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2010, 02:16 AM

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if u dun mind me dropping my 2 cents here

to me, rpg games usually have massive mechanics in order for you to modify ur character, based on stats, weapons and etc. it also includes a rich story base for you to carry your character along the game. All and all, like what ts said in the 1st post, rpg games usually evolves around those features

but on the other hand, when you say like, tekken 6 is an rpg as well. that's not what i have in mind. games like tekken do have rpg elements in it, but still, it's heavily base on fighting. this goes to other games as well.

long story short, for eg. like movies. titanic is strongly based on a love story. But american pie do have love story in it, so as avatar, and etc. But you can't categories them as love story rite?
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post Feb 21 2010, 09:11 AM

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wow! this thread is fun.

*goes back to playing an RPG game, pro evolution soccer 2010 to level up my char.
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post Feb 21 2010, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(earthdome @ Feb 21 2010, 09:11 AM)
wow! this thread is fun.

*goes back to playing an RPG game, pro evolution soccer 2010 to level up my char.
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Now i only found out we are playing rpg game everyday n night, especially UC2, we can control it kill ur own teammate, i think not many rpg game can do it. laugh.gif
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post Feb 22 2010, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Feb 20 2010, 10:56 PM)
my definition of RPG is the 90's definition

- leveling
- stats
- items/equipment
- cities to visit
- random monster encounters
- main story

i dunno who changed the term or why devs got confuse
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you forgot the most important part of an RPG - character creation. The most important aspect of any RPG is that your character is your sandbox, and you are free to do anything to your character. The amount of control over your own character(s) - that is the essence of any RPG, and how you differentiate between a real RPG and a game that has tacked on the term to help with its marketing.



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post Feb 23 2010, 09:48 AM

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and then there's oso JRPG which in turn is not so much sanboxy smile.gif
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post Mar 1 2010, 06:54 PM

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in common sense every games are made to be role playing where as you control a character,object or whatever in a story

the term role playing also can be use for movie because the actors role playing as a character also in the story

the need to differentiate every games or movies is how are they been presented.which means type/genre of the game or movies.

type or genre need to be specific to show the differences.thus the term action,figting,horrow,drama,survival,sports or anything else are being created.

all in all it just a term for games and movies and rpg games basically games that doesnt have specific genre to it and i can call it whatever i want lol










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post Mar 1 2010, 07:33 PM

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Lets just say the game devs are getting creative or just exploring possibilities. RPGs nowadays is way different from traditional RPGs mainly because people got bored playing the same stuff over and over again. For example, fighting games used to be 2D side-scrolling where one character beat the other to zero health to win. Now its 3D where the surroundings can be destroyed and you can call teammates to help so on and so forth. Its evolution and you need to get use to it. Cheers mate.
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post Mar 3 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(lopak @ Mar 1 2010, 06:54 PM)
in common sense every games are made to be role playing where as you  control a character,object or whatever in a story

the term role playing also can be use for movie because the actors role playing as a character also in the story

the need to differentiate every games or movies is how are they been presented.which means type/genre of the game or movies.

type or genre need to be specific to show the differences.thus the term action,figting,horrow,drama,survival,sports or anything else are being created.

all in all it just a term for games and movies and rpg games basically games that doesnt have specific genre to it and i can call it whatever i want lol
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Nope, control a character in a game does not equal to role-playing. Many people has vague understanding of the term role-playing before trying to define what is a RPG.

By referring to the concept of PPRPG, RPG games should let you assume roles (i.e, good lawful warrior, evil chaos wizard, neutral thief) in the games. And when you are playing the games with the role you assume, you should make decision and act accordingly to your role, for example, good lawful warrior shall not act evil and could only do things accordingly to his/her skills, for example, not able to cast powerful magics which is only allowed for wizard. If any player does anything out of behaviour in the games, he/she actually fails to play the role.

So, playing as Ryu in Street Fighter is not role-playing, you merely use a character in the game and you have no role to assume, in particularly, you have no choice to act differently; you can't have evil magic casting Ryu, can you?

The most important aspect in RPG games is choice and decision to make.
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post Mar 5 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(figure8 @ Feb 20 2010, 11:53 PM)
a true rpg gamer will know how to differentiate between rpg and other genres... a definition is useless cus different user will give different opinion.
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post Apr 15 2010, 07:33 AM

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rpg is rpg.... what differentiate them is whethr a jrpg or computer based rpg which i don't like too much
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post Apr 16 2010, 11:52 AM

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Maybe most of you are too young to remember the classic 'rpg'.

I believe for proper rpg classification, we got to have a role play world that we can interact with, the 'inhabitants'. In role plays, most of the time we are concerned more about role such as.. dark type, good/bad type, person stat, skills, job classifications, and more. There is decisions to take such as to kill/to rescue/ or help/ignore.

The role stat will affect to a certain degree of the outcome of you game during fights, heals, solving riddle, unlocking, theft, etc. it is less of how accurate is your shooting aim or how fast u can punch the 'x' button. if i remember correctly, there is not much grinding/level in older rpg game (until video games involved). it used to involve lots of dice. whistling.gif i dont know how many of you ever hold a dice for rpg game....

a funny "role playing" character that i found amusing is the kid in the movie 'how to train your dragon' where he keep mumbling about Fire +1, Jaw +1 (refering to damage type).
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post Apr 16 2010, 02:03 PM

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call it what u want.

people give classification to things unnessarily so that they can do just that: classify. it is so satisfying to be able to classify stuff and ideas. ain't it?

like i am classified as a malay. if u ask me this should be irrelevant as long as i am still classified as a human. but to many it is damn relevant. so relevant that they invent perks around this "malay" classification. people love to classify.
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post Apr 19 2010, 12:00 PM

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Depends on the person la ladies and gentlemen.

More than 50% of Malaysian do not understand what does 1Malaysia means and its aim,goals and so on.

Same with RPG
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post Aug 16 2010, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(King83 @ Feb 20 2010, 09:54 AM)
what a weak explanation...
if you are controlling Ryu, are you not Ryu?
If you are Ryu, then you are playing as Ryu and your role as Ryu will see to it that you see ryu's story/ending.
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you are seeing from Ryu's eyes . you're not him . he make choices not you . it's very linear .

people have been using the term RPG like they are breathing since the ages of pen and papers ( D&D . etc )

if you dunno waht RPG is ... pick up a pen and a paper .. draw a character table and buy a game book .. then play .

the term RPG changes as do the mind of younglings .

theory of relativity .


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i just like rpg...

long ago before i manage to buy any console game, ive play joe dever gamebook, dungeon & dragon....

and i oso create my own rpg gameboard ,adventure character with dice,

then when i turn to console game, all that is bein forgotten..



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