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 WhoTF created the term RPG?

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post Feb 19 2010, 05:07 AM

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Dissidia: Final Fantasy's genre has been described as "dramatic progressive action" and its graphics are in three dimensions. It has wireless one-on-one multiplayer and fights revolving around the use of individual special skills of characters to do damage to opponents. Players can also customize their characters with equipment.[5]

The above taken from the first paragraph on dissidia's gameplay info on wikipidia.

but yeah cant always trust it all the time. anyway, the term rpg has been abused a lot.

cant do anything about it
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post Feb 19 2010, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Feb 19 2010, 02:09 AM)
games which make use few of these terms are considered RPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game_terms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_video_game

For Dissidia: Final Fantasy, well, it is a fighting game too according to wikipedia, they called it ARPG too probably because of it being part of Final Fantasy series

back to TS, don't just quote that one line from Wikipedia, you need to read the entire article, and also the link I provided above
no other genres other than RPG offers that kind of detail regarding the "attributes", its not the storyline and characters, but the character stats aka dynamic attributes that distinguish RPG from the rest
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Tekken is an RPG
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post Feb 19 2010, 11:32 AM

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TS is taking personal opinions too seriously laugh.gif

Here's my take, in Tekken although you are controlling a character the main purpose of the game is to fight your way out. In Doom although you are controlling a character your main objective is to shoot your way out from a first person perspective. In Puzzle Bobble you are controlling the dragon but it's there just to solve puzzle as you control. In Raiden although you are controlling a plane the main purpose is to dodge bullets and shoot your way out. In Albert Odyssey Gaiden you take on the role of Pike, doing what he ought to do as given, thus I call it RPG.

Of course if you insist Tekken should be called RPG then it's your choice, everyone has his own definition laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Feb 19 2010, 11:32 AM)
TS is taking personal opinions too seriously laugh.gif

Here's my take, in Tekken although you are controlling a character the main purpose of the game is to fight your way out. In Doom although you are controlling a character your main objective is to shoot your way out from a first person perspective. In Puzzle Bobble you are controlling the dragon but it's there just to solve puzzle as you control. In Raiden although you are controlling a plane the main purpose is to dodge bullets and shoot your way out. In Albert Odyssey Gaiden you take on the role of Pike, doing what he ought to do as given, thus I call it RPG.

Of course if you insist Tekken should be called RPG then it's your choice, everyone has his own definition laugh.gif
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hey, i didn't create that definition...
it's the dumb moron who made that BS up

- take character's role
- story
- attributes

gave stupid characteristics which can describe every game.
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post Feb 19 2010, 12:29 PM

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Which Tekken series they are talking about?? Some Tekken series got Arcade mode, Vs Mode, TIme attack mode, survivor mode, Story mode... how we call it as RPG??? R they idiot???
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post Feb 19 2010, 02:47 PM

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i think it is in the scenario mode . where u jalan2 the character and hit shits that is called rpg . but if u fight 1-1 its not rpg . its a fighting game
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post Feb 19 2010, 06:44 PM

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just play the games la...what for getting headache for the definition

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post Feb 19 2010, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Feb 19 2010, 06:44 PM)
just play the games la...what for getting headache for the definition

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Dunno when will be another stupid guys said FF series are fighting game, bcoz the battle system. laugh.gif
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maybe coz after winning every battle got the similar to YOU WIN n VICTORY! spread at the centre of the screen laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2010, 07:38 PM

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to me RPG is a game where u play as the main character plus a few side characters and develop/train him/her in the game in order to progress through the story (obstacles and what not).. u cant beat the game without developing/lvling/training/grinding.. and the game permits u the ability to go anywhere u want to go in the game.. that is RPG..

but.. yeah true, the term RPG itself is misleading...

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the term is misleading coz originally back in the days, these type of games only exist in gamebooks like the lonewolf series, dnd and the likes...b4 the advent of video games where in most cases we take on the role of playing a character but the true essence of this genre is not just that...so in order to understand what this so called RPG is, is to go back to the main source n origin of where it all started. smile.gif
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you do understand that wiki is NOT the definitive encyclopedia of the www, right?

FYI: the term RPG came from board games. The earliest that I remember being Blood Bowl, in the 80s.
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to some wiki is the truth laugh.gif
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post Feb 19 2010, 09:21 PM

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all of you keep saying wiki teh intehnet is not always true,
but none of you can come up with what is real or what the real definition of RPG is...

That's because whoever coined the RPG term really was so stupid, he said to take the role of a character, which in turn, describes every flippin game in the universe.
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i lol'd at the seriousness of this thread XD!!^^
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QUOTE(King83 @ Feb 19 2010, 09:21 PM)
all of you keep saying wiki teh intehnet is not always true,
but none of you can come up with what is real or what the real definition of RPG is...

That's because whoever coined the RPG term really was so stupid, he said to take the role of a character, which in turn, describes every flippin game in the universe.
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Just let it go....... we all know that Tekken is fighting game.
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post Feb 19 2010, 10:52 PM

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The Term RPG starts off as a form of Board Game, in which players will assume a character of their own creation entirely and interact with other players to made up a game and story.

When the early adopters tried to migrate these into video games, they face difficulties with the limitations on what video game is capable of at that times, hence the mechanism was tweaked to maintain what they can do and remove what they can't do. Trust me even now some developer still admit they are still trying to adopt the true RPG expierience into video games.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Feb 19 2010, 09:21 PM)

That's because whoever coined the RPG term really was so stupid, he said to take the role of a character, which in turn, describes every flippin game in the universe.
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like i said..go back to the origin coz it was straightly adapted from that
no need to be so worked up over definitions sweat.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Feb 19 2010, 09:21 PM)
That's because whoever coined the RPG term really was so stupid, he said to take the role of a character, which in turn, describes every flippin game in the universe.
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Actually I don't really agree with that, let's say SF, you don't take on the role of Ryu, but you are just merely controlling him in fighting with the rest. If you choose Ryu, and you have to do what he's given to do in the game, then may be the term become blur.

Taking on a role is quite different from simply controlling a character.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Feb 20 2010, 09:46 AM)
Actually I don't really agree with that, let's say SF, you don't take on the role of Ryu, but you are just merely controlling him in fighting with the rest. If you choose Ryu, and you have to do what he's given to do in the game, then may be the term become blur.

Taking on a role is quite different from simply controlling a character.
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what a weak explanation...
if you are controlling Ryu, are you not Ryu?
If you are Ryu, then you are playing as Ryu and your role as Ryu will see to it that you see ryu's story/ending.

This post has been edited by King83: Feb 20 2010, 09:57 AM

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