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stringfellow
post Mar 5 2010, 09:24 PM

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Michael, looking at NBA2K10 system requirement, it should not be a problem running it on the M11X. Some of the FPSes and RPGs are even more demanding than that, and it still runs decently.

You also mentioned heat. Another possible culprit for your troubles could be stemming from trapped heat inside the M11X, or improper thermal compound application on your processor, resulting in the processor throttling back in speed (SpeedStepping) to alleviate the hot temp on the processor. Excessive heat generated also may cause the built-in trigger sensors to shut the processor down to protect it.

We need to check your exhaust vent underneath the M11X. Make sure it is not blocked. Next, we also have to make sure the fan is working, expelling the hot air from the M11X internals. If both are working, then the next diagnostics would be from the improper application on the thermal compounds on the processor itself. That would take disassembling the M11X, which I dare not do myself. If it comes to this, Michael, we can head up to any of the vendors on LYP PC level to help check this out for you.

I pray that this is just a software-related issue, that way we can undo it by proper installations and spring-cleaning. If it is hardware related, you may have to resort to returning this back to Dell.sad.gif
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:27 PM

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I would also suggest turning off the overclocks.
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:35 PM

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Hang in there, Michael!

One of the reason why I picked a slot-loader is because of the silent-running drive mechanism.
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:43 PM

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I suggest Low Yat Plaza Starbucks. We can all help diagnose Michael's problems and if it requires further inspection, he can easily go to any of the PC vendors there.
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:49 PM

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Stop that. If we're not here to help one another, then what is this forum for?

Hopefully I can be done with the stuff I need to do by 5pm. I don't mind Sundays, I'm free the whole day. But Michael isn't. sad.gif
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post Mar 6 2010, 11:50 AM

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@ff8ong,

Another great bench! rclxms.gif Do you happen to have Doom 3 or HL2? I know it should run nicely, but how nice? I've lost both of those titles physical discs, so I may need to repurchase them on Steam. Just wanna know how well it runs.

@Michael,
I've think we can be done by 3pm. I can be in LYP by 4pm. Holler if you're ready and can meet there.
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post Mar 6 2010, 12:05 PM

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Later also can. It's no problem lah, I stay very close to KLCC/Bukit Bintang, that these places are my hangout places. I was more thinking of you wanting things to be done as early as possible, but if you can hang back till later, even better. So that we can do this properly and not rushing through things.
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post Mar 6 2010, 12:21 PM

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The timing even better, so that I don't have to rush.

To the rest, you are most welcomed to join me and Michael in LYP at 6pm in Starbucks LYP today. More heads are better than one, so we can troubleshoot Mike's woes.
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post Mar 6 2010, 01:45 PM

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LOL it's not even a gathering if it's just me and Michael! laugh.gif It doesn't matter really, I just wanna help him.
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post Mar 6 2010, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Mar 6 2010, 03:34 PM)
oh dating ho!!!!
gotcha..red handed  tongue.gif

I have HL2 but the benchie For HL2 engine can be done on CS:souce game
which i still play them once  awhile
I'll see wat i can do ... rclxms.gif
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Dating? Same sex leh! rclxub.gif
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post Mar 6 2010, 09:09 PM

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*slaps forehead* Diagnosed Michael's problems already. I'll let him explain.

My advise? Do periodic maintainance, my friend. And also, use original software. Keep the laptop well ventilated.

Also, don't kancheong so much. Some things in life you need to take it slow. Rushing only make things worse.

Good luck!
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post Mar 6 2010, 09:43 PM

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Aiyoh then he should not be so kancheong about the temps and his games running laggy and stuttering.

I checked, he has so many background processes running on the background, his bootup period was horrendously long. Only managed to alleviate some of his woes by CCleaner, the rest he has to modify his habits already. For one, don't have to set Windows Messenger to run at startup for God sake! *slaps forehead*

My advice to him, if he wants to maintain the current "status" of his games, run it at lower resolution while keeping the setting as it is. That is the reason why we benchmark. So that everyone knows what the M11X is capable of, and if your performance differs so much, there's something wrong somewhere. For him, the "something wrong somewhere" is his choice of games and the source of the game itself isn't legitimate. I tried Bioshock 2 on his pirated copy and he himself is "bioshocked" to see how smooth it is on mine at HIGH while his is struggling with some options turned off. Dropped his resolution while keeping it HIGH at 1280x720 makes it tolerable but, IMO, he's losing out of the smoother gaming experience because he choose the Sparrow discs. You can have more tolerance on performance on more powerful laptops but with the M11X you don't have such luxury.
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post Mar 6 2010, 09:59 PM

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I dont mind SSDs, as long as someone can find me a 512GB SSD that fits into the M11X. Which makes it a 2.5' size only. Asked around LYP nobody have, only have the 3.5' SSD. I'm already running SSD on my Macbook Air so I know the lightning fast speed.
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post Mar 6 2010, 10:15 PM

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For something as precious as this, I'd rather self-pick it than trust it to USPS, or any postal service for that matter. Which is why I prefer purchase face to face, or the option is in the States, I'll wait for my US trips to get there.
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post Mar 7 2010, 08:26 AM

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You're talking about processor speed throttling because it's on a battery power plan? The M11X is capable of gaming with full power if you run it on high performance, even on battery. Of course, battery life is tongue.gif when you're running on that plan.
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post Mar 7 2010, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Mar 7 2010, 11:08 AM)
Hello.. good morning.
string, i forgot bout the codecs you told me last nite. what was it again?
btw, one more question, if disabling battery usage in bios means what? click the battery charging off?
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VideoLAN. VLC for short. The download package should include codecs as well. The objective is to install the minimum amount of codecs needed as possible, codec packages are the favourite method used by virus planters to sneak their malwares inside your system.

QUOTE(zerokid @ Mar 7 2010, 03:45 PM)
my pc hang for a while then restart...when i login back there is blue screen error

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
  OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
  Locale ID: 17417

Additional information about the problem:
  BCCode: d1
  BCP1: FFFFFA800DF3F658
  BCP2: 0000000000000002
  BCP3: 0000000000000001
  BCP4: FFFFF88003CD7B54
  OS Version: 6_1_7600
  Service Pack: 0_0
  Product: 768_1

Files that help describe the problem:
  C:\Windows\Minidump\030610-22183-01.dmp
  C:\Users\Zero\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-70543-0.sysdata.xml

Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
  C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt
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We're you fiddling around with the internals? or were you reinstalling Windows 7 and some of the devices in Device Manager are missing or showing exclamation mark? Otherwise, initiate a repair by booting from a bootable system image or a Windows 7 DVD.

Which also brings up the point that I cannot stress enough: Backup. The built-in Backup in Windows 7 is good enough to make sure you have a bootable system image should anything craps out later. I was eyeing Genie Timeline for my backup solution, because it operates just like how Time Machine backups works on Mac OS X. Unfortunately, it didnt mention whether the Genie backups are bootable or not.
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post Mar 8 2010, 07:48 AM

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@Michael
Plug it your power adapter, then redo the benchmark. The point here is to make sure none of our processors are throttled down.

@Zerokid
SO the BSOD is from an OCed CPU. From what I read at NBR, the SU7300 Dell slapping into the M11X is very finicky with the voltage it receives, Dell marked it at 0.9V when stock SU7300 on Asus CULV laptop can accept stable overclocks at 1.73Ghz because they did not restrained the voltage to a particular value. Dell did this probably to comply with their claims of superior battery life, which in turn makes CPU overclocks a very tricky situation. Some may be able to get their M11X to stay stable with the overclock, while others don't. Were you plugged in on AC when the BSOD happens? That may explain why it happened.

On a separate note, funny how gathering = no life. More like not attending one = insecurities, unless you're tied up with prior plans. I'm sure Michael's life is more than what certain people can claim as "no life", and I certainly like to think that I have more life than a typical person here. Try Frankfurt, Tokyo and Sydney/Brisbane. And then Universal Studios Singapore at the end of the month. Certainly "more life" there. Party? Yawn. I have that like every weekend! rolleyes.gif

The whole intention of a gathering was to pool like-minded minds ,and as mentioned by ff8ong, "to share knowledge". The whole act of "feeling superior behind the anonimity of a virtual username, the whole keyboard warrior" thing, that act gets old fast. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 8 2010, 08:28 AM

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I've specifically requested from my CS to pass me a survey form so that I can express my "concerns" with the M11X order. The email with that survey link is passed to me today, and I've answered them just now.

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The question from the beginning already gets the brunt of my dissatisfaction.

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I am SPECIFICALLY waiting for this question, and the long comment I leave at the end explains my dissatisfaction THOROUGHLY. Here is what I wrote:-

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


May be TL;DR, but if you care enough to read, all my gripes are there.

I've done my duty on getting them to buck up and improve themselves. Whether they take this into consideration, or just "another survey form than they can just chuck into the garbage bin", I'll leave it up to them.

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post Mar 8 2010, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Mar 8 2010, 08:29 AM)
string, i plugged in and using high-settings, already turn off lightings to reduce heat. i cleaned with ccleaner alredy as well.. so yea..
still very low jz 5.8k+

how's urs string? 6.3k?
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High? Leave everything at default, 1280 x 768, then redo the bench. Mine is 6280.
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post Mar 8 2010, 08:54 AM

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If you're talking about running HD MKVs or high bitrate AVI files in MP4 container, you need to offload the process to your GPU, not CPU. SU7300 cannot handle HD that well. You need to find a player that offload that process to the GPU. One such player, I believe, is CoreAVC. It utilizes the GT335 CUDA engine when running HD files.

Again Michael, all this applies to original version of the software/application. Pirated version, I cannot help you. you've already seen the complications that arises from playing pirated copies of your games, with those degraded performances.

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