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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, 10/3 03:45 ARS vs POR | FT: ARS 3-1 BUR

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QUOTE(bobotorix @ Feb 27 2010, 07:41 PM)
our game against stoke nominated as upset of the weekend
time to prove this fella wrong. lets grab 3 points and shut anyone that we cant encounter physical oppositions
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they are unbeaten in 2010 rclxub.gif
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We need to stop Sidibe/Fuller going up. Is delap playing?
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post Feb 27 2010, 08:42 PM

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someone go break delap's hand .
then all problem solved rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 27 2010, 08:45 PM

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i have the feeling that Arsenal gonna pawn Stoke City kao kao thumbup.gif
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post Feb 27 2010, 09:14 PM

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Yes, crucial match and Arsenal have to win it.
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post Feb 27 2010, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 27 2010, 11:10 AM)
Exactly. Trophies are a bonus, but long term stability and sustainability while maintaining competitiveness is the club's utmost priority.
There are simply too many cases of clubs that went bust after building new stadiums or spending heavily on players. We are very fortunate that those involved in the Ashburton Grove plan has already settled everything before a brick was even laid down.
Real Madrid was involved in a series of controversies in the past where the city of Madrid bailed them out of debt by paying heavily inflated prices for their training zone. How true it is, only those involved will know; but the point here is that we can only depend on ourselves in terms of financial matters, which is what the Highbury Square flats and the Grove's ticket prices are for.

People tend to expect us to spend like those big clubs do, but the reality is that we still do not have the worldwide fan base of traditional big teams like MU, Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich etc do. Our status is more similar to teams like Valencia, Deportivo la Coruna, Bayer Leverkusen, Roma etc. And none of them are financially safe as we are, while teams like Lazio and Parma already went kaput and other former giants like Ajax, PSV are shades of their former glory. Ashburton Grove is only a stepping stone, it will take many years before we truly see the results.
It will be really hard for us to reach the level of Barca and especially Real. These teams are like the Rolls Royce of football and unlike Ajax, PSV and etc, Real Madrid in particular were always the top team since those days and they've attracted the big names in football since those days. What im trying to say here is, they have something what you call history and heritage that we'd never be able to achieve and the difference between Real and Ajax, Real never really had a downtime; like a period of time they won nothing for 15-20 years. Liverpool looked invincible in the 80's where they won so much but right now, they're going thru a bad patch. Man Utd was nothing in the 70's and 80's, so was Arsenal, Chelsea and etc. Real Madrid had consistently won trophies for years.

As for the issue of Real selling their training ground when heavily in debts. What happen i think was that they sold their training ground which was in prime land, in which they sold to the state. In return, Real developed that piece of land and made a handsome amount of money which translated to profit. I think there's some misconception that Real was bailed out by selling that land but the truth is, they sold is and developed it into some business district and made tonnes of money out of it. Much like what Arsenal did to Highbury now and we hope we'll see the benefits soon. Fact of the matter is, Perez and gang turned Real Madrid into a money making business entity and they use the brand or the identity of Real Madrid to maximise their marketability. You must give it up to Perez or the former directors for turning them into such a rich club much like how we should give our hats up to the marketing guys at Man Utd for turning them into a brand. Of coz when the club is winning trophies, its easier to market it.
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luvvvv uuu tevezzz.. kahkaah.. se how hillarious try to catch the bal!!kihkhihk..
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QUOTE(locomotion @ Feb 27 2010, 09:34 PM)
luvvvv uuu tevezzz.. kahkaah.. se how hillarious try to catch the bal!!kihkhihk..
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reminds me of scholes flop againts ac milan sleep.gif
nevertheless
GO CITY! nyahahahahahaha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quick` @ Feb 27 2010, 09:37 PM)
reminds me of scholes flop againts ac milan sleep.gif
nevertheless
GO CITY! nyahahahahahaha  laugh.gif
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yeah....and saw bridge din wan to shake hand with terry... whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(fo33il @ Feb 27 2010, 09:43 PM)
yeah....and saw bridge din wan to shake hand with terry... whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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yeah...wanna c at you tube.. rclxms.gif
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join in the fun laugh.gif

sorry if its off-topic. It cannot be missed. sweat.gif

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post Feb 27 2010, 10:13 PM

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post Feb 27 2010, 10:22 PM

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yesssss... penaltyyyy.. come on city!!


Added on February 27, 2010, 10:24 pm1-3 game over.. bye bye chelsea..!!

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yesss.....if we win today match, 3 pts away from table leader.
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post Feb 27 2010, 10:36 PM

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another goal from city... the BIG Winner tonite is Wayne Bridge!!
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post Feb 27 2010, 10:37 PM

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A win would take us within 3 pts of the leader..

Could very well define our season. Can we do it? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(giotto @ Feb 27 2010, 09:16 PM)
It will be really hard for us to reach the level of Barca and especially Real. These teams are like the Rolls Royce of football and unlike Ajax, PSV and etc, Real Madrid in particular were always the top team since those days and they've attracted the big names in football since those days. What im trying to say here is, they have something what you call history and heritage that we'd never be able to achieve and the difference between Real and Ajax, Real never really had a downtime; like a period of time they won nothing for 15-20 years. Liverpool looked invincible in the 80's where they won so much but right now, they're going thru a bad patch. Man Utd was nothing in the 70's and 80's, so was Arsenal, Chelsea and etc. Real Madrid had consistently won trophies for years.

As for the issue of Real selling their training ground when heavily in debts. What happen i think was that they sold their training ground which was in prime land, in which they sold to the state.  In return, Real developed that piece of land and made a handsome amount of money which translated to profit. I think there's some misconception that Real was bailed out by selling that land but the truth is, they sold is and developed it into some business district and made tonnes of money out of it. Much like what Arsenal did to Highbury now and we hope we'll see the benefits soon. Fact of the matter is, Perez and gang turned Real Madrid into a money making business entity and they use the brand or the identity of Real Madrid to maximise their marketability. You must give it up to Perez or the former directors for turning them into such a rich club much like how we should give our hats up to the marketing guys at Man Utd for turning them into a brand. Of coz when the club is winning trophies, its easier to market it.
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Like I said, only those truly involved will know whether Madrid the city gave Madrid the club a helping hand or not by paying over the odds to begin with. And if they really did, it won't be surprising since the club is one of the main attractions of the whole of Spain, not just the capital. Real Madrid's board deserves praise for marketing the club into a global brand, although I personally wouldn't want to see our club act the way they do in terms of financial bullying and constant tappping up of other players via the Spanish media. Barcelona is equally guilty of this.

It would be hard for us to achieve the big club status, but we are on the right track towards that direction. Every club has to start somewhere. I do agree that it won't be achieved in the near future; it will take many decades to do so. Lifting the champions league trophy would be a huge boost though. Not winning it seems to deny us the recognition a big club deserves, although the trophy seems to bring Mourinho more fame than it did to Porto.

Marketing wise, we haven't been the best in the past. Our fan base is still lagging behind other teams in the Asia-Pacific region where fans are more hardcore in terms of spending compared to places like Africa and Middle East where Arsenal seems to garner more support.

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1-444444444444444444444444444444...hell yeah!
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I want Shay Given in Arsenal jersey next season!
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i want to watch bolton vs wolve.. want to check out wilshere..

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