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post Feb 25 2010, 01:18 PM

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@Jcmf,

updated your name in the list d.

How many glider i HAD? erm.. if counts in all the gliders i kept years b4 and died..then total got bout 10-11.. Now got 5 with me... biggrin.gif

Actually glider supplement or diet is not that expensive.. For example, I'm using Bugsy HPW Diet..one batch of HPW with manuka honey & eggs will cost me bout RM60 only.. And it last for approx 4months if you keep one glider.. which is 2months if you keep a pair..

Of course, it will be cheaper if you use normal honey..
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post Feb 25 2010, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 25 2010, 01:20 PM)
Yup,read about Instant HPW. Good feedback by most of the user..
Air tight container, never think of it before. Thanks for your suggestion smile.gif

@emino : Sorry if u felt offended with my word. I do think more than that. Im not that lame. This is not just a hobby, its more to AMANAH for me.. My friend warned me about this before and he want me to keep him update with his SG. There is plenty of time to choose either im a suitable owner or not. Anyway thanks for remind me. Chill out buddy..  blush.gif

@jcmf : i see.. Thats what I think. Not compulsory to give as suggested all the time as long as the food contain everything they need. Thanks for it. I will read more other sources
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Just remember a thing, feeding fruits and vege solely doesnt fulfill their dietary needs. Basically there is no single food that can provide 'everything' they need. You need to serve few things together to strive for the balance of diet. Just like HPW, it's daily supplement, but we still have to give fruits and vege together with it.
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post Feb 25 2010, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 25 2010, 02:23 PM)
Dear eric, did u cut fresh fruits everyday for ur sg? Or when u buy back the fruits, u cut all of them and u put it into a container and put it into the freezer? When u wan to make dinner for ur sg, u take out from the freezer?
I now using the 2nd method, wanna ask all of you there if it's ok to do. divide the fruits (already cut) into the ice cube tray. When it's frozen, i put it into a plactics and put into the freezer. When i wan to make dinner, i take out 1/2 cubes for each glider and i unfreeze it in the microwave. Wanna ask if anyone is doing the sameway as i do? I din't follow the frist method, which is cut fresh fruits everyday because sg eats very little, and sometimes the fruits left alot, that will be very waste.
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You can do that. But the melted mixture become liquid? I don really like my gliders to consume all their food in liquid form.. Because it's not healthy for their teeth and gum. Dr Jenny mentioned b4 she met gliiders with gum problem because of having liquid diet solely for long period. So is good to give solid food some time.. You can stick with ur current method, but extra supplement them with good glider dry kibbles.. Try the Happy Glider Fruity Flavorr~ Very nice.. So it helps to maintain their teeth health by chewing too.

What I did now is, i bought 2 air tight container: One is for vege, one is for fruits. Then one shot i will buy half papaya, tomatoes, apple, sawi, honey dew, mango and etc... Cut everything into cube then put in the container.. Then keep inside fridge, not freezer..

So every night i just scoop the fruits and vege then serve to my gliders, gerbil, hamster, hedgehog and dog...
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post Feb 25 2010, 03:02 PM

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In fact, the nutrition will goes off bit when we keep in freezer or fridge compare to you cut fresh fruit daily.. because it expose to air and etc..

But for me, it's more efficient to do in this way. tongue.gif
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post Feb 25 2010, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(nevermine @ Feb 25 2010, 08:49 PM)
Hi all, im totally new with SG, but now im planning to have 1,since my pair of Chipmunks just left.
before i get a SG,i have some questions, hope all SG lovers can help me out.

1.im wondering do my cage suitable for a SG? (previously for chipmunk, 56Lx30Wx32Hcm)
2. can i and my fren have different sex, then let them to have baby when they are adult?
3. from question2, is it advisable to buy both of them from the same parent?
4. where is the recommended place for me to choose my SG?or any available here?

sry for many questions...but i will appreciate your reply,thx^^
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1. Your cage is not suitable for glider, and also not suitable for chipmunk too. Both of them need taller cage to sustain their high exercise level.

2) We don stud our gliders. As emino mentioned, both parents need to be there to take care of the babies. And If you separate the parents after they stay for some time, they will feel stress.

3) Of course not. Please do not try to do that.

Out of your 4 questions, 2 of it are actually asking bout breeding. I hope you don intend to breed your gliders before you really study and research bout gliders.

Please go stage by stage...first u nid to study and learn how to take care of sugar glider.. learn their basic needs, their characteristics and etc... then only start research bout glider breeding after u got all the basic glider keeping knowledge.. After that, only proceed to practise glider breeding when you r MENTALLY and FINANCIALLY ready...

I am not sure what is the actual reasons that your chipmunks left.. death? escaped? But, i hope you understand, it's a huge responsibility to keep sugar gliders, and it's even BIGGER if you breed them.


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post Feb 26 2010, 04:36 PM

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farid87, one more thing.. jus make sure u soak urself with all the breeding knowledge if you don plan to neuter the male..
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post Feb 26 2010, 07:17 PM

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Then you should have explain to your grandma properly the impact and consequences..

I don see why you will need another 2 pair of gliders? Ur burden and responsibility will increased when u add in more gliders.
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post Feb 26 2010, 08:41 PM

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wipe frequently and regularly~~ wash their pouch wheels regularly... wipe their cage regularly...

when you do all this for 2-3weeks....then u will find them smell better..
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post Feb 27 2010, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(aldarisgan @ Feb 27 2010, 04:06 PM)
I'm interested in getting a new SG, but due to my bad experience b4... I now lack of confidence to buy from a pet shop (My last 3 SG left due to I bought them under unhealthy condition) cry.gif
Can anyone of the glider lover recommend me a reliable n reputed petshop to get a new SG?
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Don't put the blame solely on Petshops, owner need to bear big responsibility too.

If you have done your research on gliders, no matter dealing with petshop or home breeder, u will able to identify whether the joey is healthy or not..
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post Feb 28 2010, 02:24 PM

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What kind of price is affordable/reasonable/cheap price to you?

@aldarisgan, i don mean to put the blame on you too. At least now you putting effort to learn more about gliders. There are few home breeders who sell healthy gliders in LYN, but there are some mass breeder too who sell underaged and unhealthy gliders at 'cheap' price. For petshop, so far I only know PetShack who sell healthy gliders.
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post Mar 2 2010, 12:25 AM

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@Jolene, updated d..hehe..no wonder u wanna get the bigg cage la...

@Glidermama, by now i think you should aware that it's not good to let the female glider to get pregnant at such young age right?

Went to supermarket jus now and grabbed few fruits and vege... blended a batch of fruit smoothie for my babies~~~ They love love it so so so much~~~

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post Mar 2 2010, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(eekang @ Mar 2 2010, 12:38 AM)
hmm eric it looks yummy. haha. if i'm not wrong, inside got siew bak choi and cucumber rite? haha.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shazman @ Mar 2 2010, 12:42 AM)
Ya lor sifu eric..i oso wnt to knw wht type of fruits n vege
do u use.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(babyvey @ Mar 2 2010, 01:07 AM)
yea.. let us know the recipe so we can try it for our gliders too! xD
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@eekang, no siew bak choi and no cucumber also la... i never feed cucumber to my gliders b4..because it is not really nutritious for them.

@ Shazman & babyvey, erm, i put in japanese sawi, honey dew, tomato, thailand mango..then to make the smoothie taste sweeter, i added bit pure mix fruit punch too.. Oh ya, with bit bit of calcium powder...It is greeen in color..but smeellss like mango~ very sweet taste..

QUOTE(rystic @ Mar 2 2010, 02:27 AM)
59) rystic
Welbi, DOA: 12/02/10
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okok...updated.
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post Mar 2 2010, 04:27 PM

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You can either mix the gliderade with water, serve in saucer plate. 1part of gliderade powder + 5 part of water..

If they don drink, then sprinkle on top of fruits & vege then.

Gliderade is the nectar supplement, provide carbohydrate source to ur glider in order to sustain their high exercise level. It's very good for those dehydrated gliders too.
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post Mar 2 2010, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(farid87 @ Mar 2 2010, 09:55 PM)
i juz blend some fruit :: apple , honeydew , starfruit , blueberry , grape
and some vege :: sawi , carrot , tomato.... ++ gliderade ++ a bit glidercalcium... + fresh red apple juice ( i blend my self ) + put some yogurt... is this ok for my glider ?? =.= so many item put together ohhh ++ honey
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Erm..you nid to check the overall ratio of your fruits and vege..of course it's hard to get it accurately but at least you can estimate roughly..so you will know the portion of calcium powder and yogurt u nid to put in..

If the ratio is already high in calcium, then u chunk in more calcium powder, end up it will be overdose calcium.

Make sure you peel off the skin of grapes and startfruit, and don put so much..because they are kinda high in oxalic acid.


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post Mar 2 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(farid87 @ Mar 2 2010, 11:23 PM)
i juz put a ( 1/2 tea spoon )glidercal.. and da grape i juz put around 5 oni...  btw juz grape i dont peel da skin... throw out all seed
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You nid to peel of the skin pls..

1/2 teaspoon of glider-cal is A LOT!!!

QUOTE(eekang @ Mar 2 2010, 11:24 PM)
hmmm, wan ask. wen onli we can cut out joeys nails?
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Erm.i think u can cut ur joey's nail already..they are big enough..make sure u see properly la...joey's nail is harder to cut than adult..
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post Mar 3 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Mar 3 2010, 11:59 AM)
Haizzz another one bites the dust doh.gif i dunno what to say.. sometimes it can be too frustrating to answer these kinds of questions. By the looks of it, you dint do any research on gliders. Suddenly pregnant dah.. and you not even ready. You dont ask if the male shud be seperated or not.. if you did your research, MALES and FEMALES work together as a TEAM to bring up the joeys. When mom goes out to eat, daddy takes over the job of taking care of the joeys. Please read the first page.. eric already pretty much put a lot of effort to lay out a LOT of info that covers every aspects of gliders~ take some initiative to do some actual research. yawn.gif

Male gliders if in tact of coz botak ma~
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Good one SCC.

@Mingwai89, This is your first time having pregnant gliders, so go and study and read more bout glider breeding before it's too late. Anything can happen, especially rejection baby. And I hope you are feeding proper diet and nutrition to your gliders pair before this, otherwise the chances of rejection will be higher.

Please don't feel offended by our words here becasue we are pretty straight forward. Our direction here is not to spoon feeding owners but encourage owners especially newbie to take their own initiative in learning bout glider keeping. Of course, this is an open forum, it's for public discussion. But i guess you will absorb easier and more if you study first before asking questions.
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post Mar 3 2010, 01:58 PM

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@Mingwai89,

Erm, unexpected pregnancy for your case is not an accident because this definitely will happen when u put one inate male and female together in a cage.

Anyway, this is already happened, and we can change anything though.

Now, u nid to quickly decide on a diet to follow. If you ask me, I would recommend Bugsy HPW Diet. I have been using Bugsy products for quite some tiem, and all of them are doing well.
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post Mar 3 2010, 02:45 PM

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As you study deeper in glider diet, you will realize there are more things that could affect the calcium absorb by your glider such as vit. D, oxalates, phosphorus and more...

So keep on studying..then u will earn more knowledge..

Yes, along with Bugsy HPW Diet, u still have to feed fruit and vegetables EVERYDAY.
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Don expect all the gliders will carry the same characteristics.. Some will stay quietly...but some may hiss to complain...

So, enjoy seeing different kind of faces of ur gliders.. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 3 2010, 11:43 PM

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Don blend together with fruits...

You can mix with fruits in order to introduce HPW to your gliders. But after sometime try separate it, if ur glider can eat it separately then it's good.

You should get gliderade for carbohydrate source. HPW and Gliderade are the most basic supplement.

Others are optional.


Added on March 3, 2010, 11:45 pmDon blend together with fruits...

You can mix with fruits in order to introduce HPW to your gliders. But after sometime try separate it, if ur glider can eat it separately then it's good.

You should get gliderade for carbohydrate source. HPW and Gliderade are the most basic supplement.

Others are optional.

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