i did, but they still dun1. HPW feed twice a week, right ? after the next moring i see they no finish tht, then i jsut thrown away.

I suggest you guys to put recommended breeder on the first page.
As all the newbie (including me), we cannot tell who is being such a good breeder and can give healthy s.g.  Promote them. Not all will read this forum. So put at other website. Put at mudah, and promote this link there.
As for myself before having s.g, i have no idea that most at mudah.my are selling not-good s.g. The seller did give me a chance to see his breeding room, and pick my own glider. He is so nice and everything seems OK until I realize after 3 days, my s.g is underage, 34 days (i compare with the chart), and he put more than 13-20 underage s.g in 1.5 feet cage.
Before buying S.G, I do make research. I do read about s.g. I do know about we need bigger cage for big cage. And there! i did not notice that on that day. We do make mistakes.
Befor having S.G, I didnt know how does healthy S.G looks like. So, I just make my own test. I make her run. She run fast. OK. I look at her eye. Black. No other colour. OK.  Her fur grey and black. OK. I make her climb. Oh she's good. OK. And there! I bought underage joey. (I did not know how to agak the size). But what I did not know is what that cant see in our naked eye. Possibly inbred. Drugged.
When i owned my glider, i learnt more and more, like ohhh, this is crabbing, ohh they need calcium fruit, ohh thiss is this,, that is that.
All i want to say is, read doesnt mean anything. But when we experienced it, we learnt more and more and more.
In conclusion, all you expert, please pleaseeeee pleasee show the right path to us-newbie. Give us courage!!
p/s : I did know all of you give a very good advise but in a liltle tiny sometimes please dont use discourage word. like before the word damage. It make us feel like we were the worst pet owner ever. I know
you did not mean it, but ... .

hello everybody. Finally i bought a Senior Wheel for my Sg. Wait next month again i can buy another one 

hello...
it's a long time since my last post..
can anyone give me url for DIY stuff for suggies??
thanks...

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Added on March 28, 2010, 2:05 pmfound 1!!heee

Thanks jit shiong, eric and yueyi. You guys are awesome and hope you all will continue in giving us a good advise. 
Today I make my baby a DIY toy. I have no idea at first what material is good for them or what material should not be use. Then, i just looked throughly at first page, and saw eric used some metal, fleece and wood. Got some idea and try to make one. I dunno if other ppl already done this but i am so excited for my first DIY toy made.
It only cost me RM 3.00!!!~    with a need of cloth clippers and shoe lace.

If you find the toy is not good please let me know.

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To eric, i would love to join the group in the first page. Please put me in.

My baby,
Yoka  DOA : 11 March 2010
Poka  DOA : 11 March 2010
p/s : can i use paper boxes for toy?  I plan to use box as a tunnel.

Question : A friend give her s.g a bath by puting her s.g in the flowing tap water. Is it ok?

erm... gimmicks..
i actually accidentally buy .. lols..
but hun strongly not reccomend to buy from him.....     

I'm neither specialist in glider nor nutritionist but let me try to answer the questions.

1. A couple of sites i stumbled on suggested using Yogurt instead of calcium supplements (a brand with no preservatives/artificial flavor or sweeteners), is this actually recommended or will it not supply enough calcium (assuming the fruits and veggies are balanced between 1.5-2:1)?

2. They also suggested using a high protein/low sugar cereal (like cheerio's or cornflakes) as part of the diet, isn't this bad because they are mostly corn based?

3. They ALSO suggested giving a boiled egg as part of the diet a few times a week, if i decide to feed HPW recipe would i still need to give extra egg occasionally (on top of the ones included in the mix)?

- Calcium powder is very high condensity calcium supplement, and if you do not give in a appropriate amount, it will cause calcium overdose which lead to damages in their organs especially the kidney and also higher risk of urinary tract problem. Therefore, i always suggest to glider owner esp HPW user, choose the correct ratio of fruits/vege instead of extra supplementing them calcium powder. Or else, opt for yogurt drops or papaya treats as part of the calcium source. If you decided to give calcium powder, give when you r not feeding any high calcium fruits/vege, and at the same time feeding small portion of pure cranberry juice daily, it helps in preventing UTI.

- If you are using HPW, you do not have to prepare ur own mix. HPW has provide sufficient protein and emino acids needed by your glider daily. For other diet such as BML, you might need to add in other ingredients like babyfood, cereal, eggs or etc. Different kind of diet will have different kind of ingredients and rules to follow. If you study BML, then you will know actually if you are feeding BML, the fruits and vege that you can feed is very limited. Because you will need to balance with the calcium ratio in the diet. As for HPW, you will have a wider range of fruits/vege choice, as long as u monitor and select the correct ratio of fruits/vege. Boiled eggs/chicken breast/insects is not a MUST for HPW user, but u can give occassionally as treats. Variety of food lead to more balanced diet. But, the main staple diet or supplement you can only go for one.

4. Are there negative side effects to giving a diet that is too rich in calcium? I know there is a lot of emphasis on making sure you give enough calcium and keep phosphorus levels but if you stray over the 2:1 ratio often will it cause something like brittle bones as it would in dogs?

-As i mentioned above, damaging the organs esp kidney, UTI and etc. So becareful when supplementing calcium powder.

5. Where do i get Bee Pollen from to add into the HPW mix? Also just to clarify if you are feeding a HPW diet, you shouldn't also give something like Bugsy Premium Sugar Glider Diet right? As it would be mixing diets and then the nutrition wouldn't be balanced correctly.

-For Bugsy HPW starter kit & Bugsy Instant HPW, bee pollen is included in the packet. You will see two different powder in Bugsy HPW starter kit, one is protein powder, while the yellowish one is bee pollen. If you follow the HPW diet strictly, we shouldn't feed other supplements like gliderade, pellet food and others. However, it's still a controversy issue. I do give other supplements such as gliderade, booster, acacia gum for carbo and vitamin source. While Bugsy Premium Glider Diet and Bugsy Happy Glider i feed them when i am away/outstation. For me, one two days is fine. As i mentioned, 'variety' ~~ But go for good quality pelleted food and do not use as sole staple diet.

6. When making toys, would it be ok for me to use ribbons (grosgrain and satin) and beads (between 0.5cm and 1cm diameter plastic or glass) as decor and trimming? I'm guessing glass beads are not suggested for obvious reasons, but will a gliders nails catch in the ribbons and will they be able to choke on the beads?

- I don really like ribbon, because their nail can easily get stuck.. beads can be use but get a bigger size one to prevent your glider from swallowing them.

Finally i'm having some problems understanding the balancing fruit and veg, i have tried to come up with some sample meals of a balanced combination which i would appreciate your comments on. When i look at the calcium and phosphorus content of the foods there are some which have something like 81:63 (Okra, raw) and others that have 9:8 (Lettuce, red). If i put both in one meal should i put more of the red lettuce than the Okra because it has smaller content of both calcium or phosphorus? Do i need to make sure i have some high content and some low content in all meals or is it only important to keep the 2:1 balance right?
I hope that makes sense, very confused here.

So here are my meal samples:
1: Papaya, Grapefruit, Green Beans, Pumpkin (TOTAL 1.80)
2: Strawberries, Lemon, Spinach, Celery, Parsley (TOTAL 1.77)

- We are not nutritionist, and frankly i do not think anyone of us here are able to make sure we are giving exactly 2:1 ratio of total diet feeding to gliders. Because not only phosphorus will affect the calcium level in your glider body, there are other things as well such as Vit D (helps in absorbing calcium), Oxalates (binds with the calcium contains in the food) and etc. And as you mentioned, treats (yogurt, dried fruit, insects) that you feed also affect the total ratio of their diet. So, the principal that i follow would be make sure one of the fruit/vege you give is high in calcium, while the rest do not go for high phosphorus food + Avoid feeding high oxalates food daily. Calcium deficiency/overdose does not happen over a night, it is slowly develop over a time period then only reach the fatal stage. Therefore, providing a balance overall diet is very important in maintaining ur glider health.

yueyi: hahaha...DIY toys not cage....lalala~

sory....
anyway, dun have enough budget for the woodent wheel...hihi...
if i see my SG going to obese, will buy for him to exercise

tq eric...i thought to avoid obese only..hihi

Get my SG on Sunday as a gift from my uncle, too bad he do not know any thing about SG and brought it from petshop without inform me....

Any way today bring her for check up with Dr Jenny and thank god is a healthy 2.5 + months OOP joey and already let Dr Jenny deworm.

She is kinda tame but keep sleeping for the whole day only active around 5a.m. in the morning. Get her the proper fullset of SG needs like 3' cage, SG wheel and pouch and water bottle. Also the fullset of SG diets like HPW and others.

Any way thanks for this forum that able to guide me through and now on the way of bonding process. Although i know i will be accuse by others buying SG from petshop, but i will not put the blame on my uncle as i know he is just to be nice and he know nuts about SG at all.

Will take responsibility for this new life as she is soooo cute. Will update once im able to get a photo of her.

P.S. today is Dr Jenny last day in Hand and Paws, effective on 2nd April she will work in Kota Damansara near Carefour. Below is her new address,

My Vet Animal Clinic
03-6142 2122

relax, it takes time for the glider to adjust with you. check the first post in this thread on how to bond with a new glider!

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Added on March 31, 2010, 2:22 amGuys i wanna ask, is it true that gliderslurp is dangerous?

This guy sent it to the lab and they found out that it contains cyanide and it doesnt contain calcium. the link is here,

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1336302

how about i'd like to make my Venus become fatter?coz now she look quite skinny, and she eat very little everyday,beside 1 tablespoon of the HPW?, then fruit and long bean or carrot or some vege, i think she eat less than 8 cubes of them (abt 5mm cube) everyday...is it normal? if i feed her honeydew or papaya,den she will eat more,specially papaya,she damn like it 

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Added on March 31, 2010, 2:32 am

Sounds a glider make
i found the website and there are some recorded sound that glider made, and wat the sound means...jsut for ur reference^^

Definately NO!!!
why should it be dangerous when it's all made out of natural ingredients infect it is full of good vitamins and minerals.slurp cant be kept in the freezer as long as hpw coz no preservatives..it's even more nutricious that what humans eat daily..I'm using gliderslurp since my sg didnt want to eat hpw..i have frens who's gliders didnt eat hpw mch so they got worried and i told them to try gliderslurp and they are using it until now..Hun who makes gliderslurp is very experienced sugar glider owner/home breeder...she knows her stuff especially the diet and nutrisional facts..gliderslurp has even help rejected joeys before..and u know how hard it is to raise a rejected joey and their chances of living are less than others.if it was to be poisonus i think many gliders of hers would have died and also mine as well after using for almost 1 year..
dont just blindly trust what others say..some just wanna bring down others for their own benefit..

LOL i'm not over reacting u cant tell my tone by reading sentences..
just telling through my experience since i'm using it ma.. hope readers dont get the wrong idea about it since u got no comment on it..

like u said there are a variety of diets now if u look on the net..but sadly some ingredients cant be found in M'sia so best if we stick to what can be easily found here like HPW/BML/gliderslurp
is up to us to study and also choose the diet for our gliders.

can anyone give me some answer? i saw this, sort of skin on the base of my cage. is that my joey sick?

*wishing any pro can help me >.<

hi everyone..
i want to ask..
which one is better for serving gliderade:Mixes with water 5 to 1 ratio or just sprinkled it over fruits?

thanx..

okay thanks guys for your opinions. may i know which V of the thread that it was debated on? I am just trying to be careful and i do not intend to offend anyone

Thanks guys! and Im gonna build a cage with zip wardrobe as the frame, as suggested by yueyi!   cant wait! to other DIY-ers, you can ask me or yueyi for the link. I estimate the cost to be around rm50-60 max.