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 LYN Proton Wira Club (LYN-PWC) V-XXIV, Come in & let's discuss about Wira

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post Sep 2 2010, 09:56 PM

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sharing is caring?? hmm...
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post Sep 2 2010, 10:14 PM

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macam something is going on here...
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post Sep 2 2010, 10:42 PM

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already heard a few of these scandal.. izzit really true???
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post Sep 3 2010, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Sep 3 2010, 09:45 AM)
Semi-Sync is more then enough liao lo.
Anyway, I do have a 4G92 DOHC 1.6 Wira for sales, anyone interested?
It comes with MIVEC block, if you wanna mod it to MIVEC, just get an ECU and a MIVEC head will do brows.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1548481&hl=
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that is mivec block ah? i thought mivec block will come with the word mivec, and the head is a bit different from normal 4g9x series...

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post Sep 5 2010, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(mfauzi84 @ Sep 5 2010, 06:04 AM)
Hi to everybody here.

I am new here and im desperate for advise,

I bought a wira 1.3 manual out of lack of money.

so i have read about most of the comments posted and i did some research regarding the gearbox mainly about auto tranny.

so ,from my knowledge most of the old wira before wira s.e using the 3speed auto...correct me if i am wrong..evrybody commented that the 1.5 auto is lousy coz it will roarrrrrr like hell when driving at 140kmh or more....is this due to the high rpm coused by the 1.5 engine?its like the gearbox is looking for another gear...so they did improvise with the proton wira s.e with implementing the 4speed gearbox..

my ultimate question is will i have problem if i use this old model auto gearbox...(my wife cant drive manual,pitty her any i m broke as well...hahaha)

i am planning to use recond auto gearbox (3speed auto)..

plz advise.

i am at k.l;looking for a solution...i need advise..cost and where to do this convertion.
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i was using 1.5auto until i convert my engine. yes, the 3 speed auto gearbox is shitty.. in terms of mileage is bad too. my top speed with this gearbox is 165kmh.
if you're planning to convert it from manual to auto. better find a 4 speed gearbox, of coz need the seller to give u some warranty period to test out the gearbox. (4 speed gearbox, many ppl spoilt it because they pour in unsuitable ATF grade of oil)..
3 speed gearbox can use normal ATF (decron III) but u will suffer on the mileage lo..
for choosing ATF fluid, i suggest to get toyota ATF IV (if i remember correctly).

when you do this conversion, i think you will need to take your car to puspakom for inspection, and then to jpj to update it into your geran (also your bank/insurance also need to be informed and updated)

just one thing... 1.3 really underpower for taking the load of wira... it will drink petrol more than 1.5, i think, 1.6 got better mileage than 1.5
(info from my friend who is driving 1.3wira)
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post Sep 5 2010, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Sep 5 2010, 10:02 AM)
How can I convert my gearbox to 4 speed? Need to change the whole gear box? how much it will be?  hmm.gif
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change the whole gearbox.. between 1k to 2k.
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post Sep 5 2010, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Sep 5 2010, 10:43 AM)
Ok..betweek 1k to 2k? Recon gearbox or new? Sorry for asking noob question, that is because I'm still new  blush.gif
In term of performance, will it have big difference? how about FC? Normally it takes how long to change?
I need to do this after I change right? can I ask agent to do it? Is there any agent do this kind of service?  hmm.gif
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it's a recon gearbox.
performance.. im not really sure.. i only know ppl commented that the mileage (FC) and response is better than 3-speed auto gearbox. how long to change ah... i think 1 day..

the agent got do de kua... im not so sure since, i myself never done transmission conversion except engine conversion. my engine endorsement, i do myself de.
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QUOTE(mfauzi84 @ Sep 5 2010, 11:41 AM)
Thanks for the reply.

but i need to clear out some thing.

1.5 gearbox(3speed)= shitty gear play due to low gear ratio and engine is high capacity so the gearbox and engine is not tele.

1.3 engine has lower hp so i can fit the  the 3 speed gearbox ...?

if i use the 4 speed auto gearbox to my 1.3 egine ,it will tarik all my power...

so the best solution is to use 1.3 engine with 3speed auto gearbox..
correct me if i am wrong.

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if i remember correctly.. 4g13, 4g15, 4g9x.. their gearbox, auto or manual, all interchangeable.
so 1.3wira can fit in 3speed or 4speed.
as i said.. 1.3 is really underpowered. even it's manual, the FC is still bad. you will expect more worse FC after you fit in the auto gearbox.
i personally thinks 4 speed has better FC than 3speed on highway. gearbox doesnt tarik the power, rather, they have influence on how well the power is transmitted.

the best solution? well.. it depends on your budget eh... if for me, i will certainly go for 4speed gearbox.
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QUOTE(Lineage @ Sep 5 2010, 12:45 PM)
What you mean by interchangeable? That mean that I don't need to change the whole gearbox?
Please advise on this  drool.gif
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you need the change the whole gearbox. what i meant was, even though you're 1.3 version, but you still can use the gearbox from 1.6 version either manual/auto.
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post Sep 5 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Sep 5 2010, 01:10 PM)
Ok..understand..  nod.gif
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you're welcome.

hmm.. PWC seems to have quiet down alot... where are the noisy ones??
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post Sep 5 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Sep 5 2010, 01:39 PM)
No idea..

Hey, do you know which workshop know how to do Toyota FICD?  hmm.gif
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haha.. mostly dunno how.. i bought the FICD from halfcut. went to accessories shop, and instruct them how to install it.. (coz i dun have the equipments and the experience of finding the compressor relays)
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post Sep 5 2010, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Sep 5 2010, 01:47 PM)
Pity me then..I don't even know how is look like..and don't know how to fix..cant instruct them to install..so what can I do?  hmm.gif
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refer to this
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

easy to understand...
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post Sep 5 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(mfauzi84 @ Sep 5 2010, 01:55 PM)
Thanks for  the advice...

this topic about interchangeable gearbox ig gettin hot.

k i want to share a story with u guys .

i had a kancil before 660 auto,then i meet a mechanic,we change the 850 head for my 650kancil,damn nice torque,pickup was very good but my gearbox is looking for another gear so what we did is we change the gear box to manual 850 gearbox then everything was o.k until one day....this is the suspens one...my father he took out to his mechanic and chage my 850 head back to 660 head for no good reason....then my kancil got no pick up .its like nenek tua edy..

so moral of the story is big head high ratio gearbox,small head small ratio gearbox......

plz advice or comment.

about the fc we were talking bout,correct me if i am wrong...it consumed more feul in 1.5 engine wit 3speed gearbox then 1.6 with 4speed rite?         is this happening to 1.5 auto coz the engine revs high rpm due to wider gear ratio in 3 speed gearbox?

1.6 fc is fair coz it has 4speed gearbox with smaller gear ratio so its good for 1.6 and 1.5 to use 4speed gearbox...but does this apply the same concept in 1.3 engine due to small hp wit small revs.....
thanks aloot for those who is interested to share.

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850 go to 660, sure pick up is lessen ah..
1.6fc is good is not only because of 4speed gearbox. but also the higher power output.
my current 93t manual has better FC than my 4g15auto. so, i believe higher power output does contribute to better FC when power output is sufficient to bring the car moving smoothly.

in my opinion, 1.3 got insufficient hp to move wira around (although proton may say that smaller cc will save more fuel) but this isnt the case. as more higher rev is to get car moving, hence you press more, and then fuel goes in more loh.. im not sure whose gearbox ratio is longer, but the shorter the better ler.. can upshift faster, and maintain lower rpm. (higher rev, eats petrol.. logic thinking)


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QUOTE(Lineage @ Sep 5 2010, 02:17 PM)
Thanks for your info(but I'm not really understand), but where can I get those material? I think I better ask the workshop to settle for me..since I don't know anything..
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if you get the material yourself, you will save some bucks.. i usually go around and buy parts myself. along the way, youw ill learn something, and also the pricing ma..
the hose can get from spareparts shop.. and the hose clamps too.. the t-joints too.. for the size of the clamps, hose, joints, you need to open up your engine bonnet and inspect... (cause mine is very big.. dunno why..)
the toyota FICD, get it from halfcut shops.

for the wiring and filter, can just get it from the accessories workshop (i did that), i dont like doing wiring in a mechanic workshop.. because.. their way of making the connections.. is ugly... i like the way accessories shop do things neatly with the wires.

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post Sep 5 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(mfauzi84 @ Sep 5 2010, 03:49 PM)
k i am itrying to understand a bit the concept,
let say i want to change my 1.3 wira carburetor manual gearbox to auto,which gearbox will suits me the ?

and how will it perform from pick up and top speed view.

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any wira or mitsubishi 4g9x series de gearbox can be fitted in. as i already said, 4-speed gearbox performs better in FC.
pick up and top speed... i dunno lo.. try and wait if there are some fellow 1.3heroes here who can contribute their experience in this.
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QUOTE(Dispell @ Sep 6 2010, 12:08 PM)
good morning all shifu!
wta is i change my auto gearbox to manual, nid endorse by JPJ?
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abide the law. go and endorse.
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post Sep 11 2010, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(jtcs87 @ Sep 11 2010, 12:23 PM)
actually what is the different between 10w-40 / 15w-40 / 15w-50 / 20w-50?  rclxub.gif

I just feel that after i change for 20w-50 & my toys looks like no power for my 1.6(A) 1995.  cry.gif
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my own understanding of the oil viscosity is like this.
20w = thick oil , for engine that consumes engine oil
then 0w = thin oil, for those who wants more roar from engine. and better FC.

40 = the max temp that the oil can maintain its viscosity, normally NA engine can use this.
50 = higher max temp, for high rev engine, or turbocharged.


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QUOTE(chaf @ Sep 11 2010, 04:57 PM)
wailup, have to try out 10w-60...?
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i wanted to!!! blush.gif
but currently on 'eco' mode, so, using 15w-50, mineral based, change every 3k++
why chaf? you got cheap 10w-60???
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post Sep 11 2010, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(chaf @ Sep 11 2010, 05:41 PM)
on 'eco' mode...? haha...
when wanna switch to racing mode...?
how much u got in Johor...? brand..?
im using AGIP 10w-60....
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V99 bylon (semi syn)10w-60.. rm150
Castrol Edge (full syn)10w-60 rm150
the price is around there la.. forgot bout the actual price liao..
now only rm50 for pennzoil 15w-50 wub.gif
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post Sep 11 2010, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(chaf @ Sep 11 2010, 06:55 PM)
quite ok v the price mah.....
i get AGIP (full syn)0 10w-60 RM150 as well....
come on.... switch to 'sport' mode rclxms.gif .....
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you can get agip 10w-60 for rm150??? shocking.gif
sure mah? can keep stock liao lo
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post Sep 11 2010, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(chaf @ Sep 11 2010, 07:15 PM)
yup.... but in KL la....
been using for the pass 2 services....
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what's your service interval? your engine is?

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