Craving for more bass?

Don't worry, you're not alone, not everyone are using bassy PC speakers/headphones. Something has to be done to get those thumping bass: keep the bass, reduce the rest, turn it up!

Don't be fooled by commercial software such as SRS Audio Sandbox, SRS Premium Sound, SRS TruBass, Dolby Natural Bass, DTS Boost, DFX Audio Enhancer. They offer you more bass but the mids and highs are squashed and with their poor algorithm your music are going to sound dull the second the beats peak around 0dB.

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2.1 Speakers - Find the best location for your subwoofer:
Subwoofer performance significantly depends on your room acoustic. If you have not try setting up the subwoofer in different spots / rooms, I suggest you do, so you know your real subwoofer performance .

Just for an example, my Klipsch iFi has been setup in more than 10 spots in different rooms, even at different house. So I know how bad it sounds on my bedroom and how good it sounds at my computer desk. Therefore I use different EQ settings for the same speakers if they're placed in different rooms.

2.1 Speakers - Determine your subwoofer frequencies:
If you have no idea on which frequencies you want to add, watch this video and listen from 100Hz to 30Hz without changing your volume level. Now you have an idea of which frequencies you want to add / subtract.

Enable and configure the Equalizer:
View > Equalizer > [55HZ] [77HZ] [110HZ] [156HZ]

More BASS:

Raise [55HZ] slider up and click auto-level , adjust until you are satisfied with the bass.

Reduce some muddy bass:

If you feel your subwoofer is a little 'muddy' (Edifier R501), you can try to reduce [110HZ] slider. Next, if you feel your subwoofer is rather boomy (Logitech Z Cinema), you can try to reduce the [77HZ] slider instead.

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Example:


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Headphones / In-Earphones:

f you're using good headphone or high end subwoofer, you might want to get bass lower than the 55hz foobar2000 offer. This is where the VST plugin in foobar2000 is useful. In the previous download link I've included VST plugin, SH-1 Equalizer and Voxengo SPAN.

Enable and configure SH-1 and SPAN:
File -> Preferences -> Playback -> DSP Manager -> Enable SH-1 and SPAN . Once enabled, you can access them through View -> DSP

SH-1 Equalizer:

You can increase 30hz , 40hz , and 63hz bar here. Do note that if you increase more bass, be sure to reduce the input level (left bottom corner) so there is no clipping or distortion.

Voxengo SPAN:

Use SPAN to check for clippings. Set the audio channels to 2 or Auto (left top corner). Check the clippings value and ensure it is always 0.

Caution: I am not responsible for your headphone / ear damage if you set too much bass or allow too much clipping.
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For PC 5.1 Speakers, MP3 & CD Players, check out the Full Article

This post has been edited by nismo91: Sep 27 2011, 02:20 PM

if this applies on the soundcard,it would be better
I tweak my cheap system with SRS Audio Sandbox to play my sub at 100hz and it's great.
it's like tweaking foobar

well this tweak impressed me alot, otherwise i wont even post it twice. lol. i remember my x-fi "bass boost" at around 40hz also gives good feedback. but i dont have any x-fi now.

anyway, this should be great for those who complaints C3 bass is soft.. and, for those muddy subwoofer like M3300 and S330. set the subwoofer to 1/2 and use this foobar. im pretty sure no more muddy bass...

@nismo91

Do u think pairing up my C3 with a Asus Xonar U1 will improve the bass performance?

well, i never had an U1. but i do have a X-Fi 5.1 USB before. before i sold it off because of incompatibility issues with my intel desktop. the soundcard gives performance. but i'd rather use onboard since my last speaker wasn't so great. then i upgraded to klipsch ifi. i can hear x-fi is much better than onboard, including the bass. (not very much though).

anyway have you tried the foobar EQ? doesn't it add some bass to the C3? im using it with my R501 (running in 2.1) mode.

Wow, alot of difference compared with normal Winamp. Love the extra bass.

glad you enjoyed the work.. haha help spread the good news..
the only bad thing is channel mixer doesnt work properly with 2 speakers setup.

ouch....i tried playing around the equalizer....setting all to _0dB now...can't set it back to default settings

i'm using a 2 speaker with add on another 2 speaker setup. the channel mixer work just fine with fine bass tuning

hmm.. have you tried the zero all? and anyway, if want to reset to default, u can always download the file again. haha

yeah.. but i mean the channel mixer's "bass redirection" didn't actually work because of no dedicated subwoofer channel in stereo output. if i send the sub to all channel it didn't sound as good compared to me using 5.1. but in case my mistake, how's your channel mixer settings?

Oh, just noticed, this is for 5.1? I am actually using Logitech Z2300 2.1. Still better than Winamp.

Btw, got tips on how to impove my onboard sound? It really sounds like tin kosong. Even my cheapo netbook sounds better.

yea.. i mean the channel mixer.. for 2.1, i just use EQ and disable the 5.1 channel mixer.. sounds better somehow here..

to improve sound, there are DFX, SRS audio soundbox, ffdshow decoder, TVS SRS (winXP). but in the end i love how foobar2000 pawns all of them.

if u're using realtek, make sure you disable all the unessential add-ons such as:
- dolby headphone
- dolby prologic IIx
- dolby natural bass
- bass management
- environment
- loudness equalization
- room correction

best is (in vista or win7) disable all sound effects. and, for realtek, you must tick "full range speakers" in realtek control panel. otherwise bass is lowered. if you're using winXP u can try toshiba virtual sound which i use on the other XP machine. warning: TVS doesn't work with all onboard sound.

http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/951...ut-enhancement/

erm..hw is the lyric working.?

it's : LyricsPlugin from www.lyricsplugin.com

LyricsPlugin is created for the Winamp and WMP series. It search for the song title name and artist name. then it look up in it's own database and display the lyrics. If you do not find the lyrics for your song, you can always click the "edit" button and put it on your own. It also allows you to change the text and background colour.

Note: Lyrics plugin is sensitive to artist and title name. so if your songs title and name are mixed up, it wont find the correct one. since my songs library are quite "neat", i can automatically find most of the lyrics on each song i play.

do try it.. if you're using Winamp or WMP series, just download it from the official website. it's one plugin that is simple yet very useful.

Update on 23th Feb 2010 : Updated foobar2000 to v1.0 instead of v0.9.6.9

This post has been edited by nismo91: Feb 24 2010, 04:12 AM

I really cannot tahan with my onboard sound(Via), satts sound like tin kosong. Music solved coz i use this Foobar but movies and gaming sounds bad. Bro, can recommend any affordable sound card which can support win7?

hmm well, for soundcard i previously used an X-Fi USB 5.1 but beware, it has compatibility problems with my previous intel motherboard desktop. works flawlessly with other brands though... and i replaced it with X-Fi XtremeAudio which is actually cheaper. sounds good.. are u under laptop / desktop?

-edit: add some more info:

for VIA HD Audio Deck in control panel, make sure u disable ALL Qsound and similar sound effects. plus, in control panel, go to sound, single-click "Speakers" and in left bottom click "Configure". make sure the speakers is set to stereo, next, and tick "Full range speakers". restart afterwards.

This post has been edited by nismo91: Feb 25 2010, 03:15 PM

Thanks for sharing , does the above setting only makes C3 sounds more solid bass ? Any other thing can tweak for C3 ?

I'm planning to get C3 as R501 is a ill complicated from what you guys are mentioning.

yes, the equalizer from foobar2000 is different from the normal equalizer found in winamp, itunes or windows media player. by adjusting the first slider it would give your C3 more deep bass as it's seriously lacking of bass.

if you're using it for 2.1, then better get C3. R501 is for those who plan to use 5.1 to get surround sound from their games or movies. C3 for music, R501 for games or movies.

Holy shit . I`m getting a C3 tommorow will definately try this !

lol alright don't forget to comment regardless if anything goes nice or wrong.

I've switched to Foobar(this version by nismo) from being a loyal Winamp user since 1998. Bass on my Z2300 is much deeper now.

Nice bass after using it . How do i go to Channel Mixer though ?

hmm for channel mixer you can go to:
File > Preferences > Playback > DSP Manager > then click channemixer on the right and click "<==" to make it active. if you're not using 5.1 it's actually useless but you can change the "stereoimage width"

are you using C3? i never own the C3 but have listened before. looks like it should use different EQ from example as it has different subwoofer power.

LoL i use kinda similar with urs , and off all the extra sound effects already . Yea i`m using C3 .. any other tweaks that i can use ?

well what you want more from the C3? want more bass or midrange or some treble? personally i just tweak the bass settings because it's quite universal. if i mess with other bars, it sounds good in certain songs and terrible in others.

Ahh , thanks .. i guess i'll just havto buy myself a sound card . I saw a Creative USB sound card that cost RM 110 . Worth buy ?

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Added on March 15, 2010, 9:51 pmAnd how do i install the lyrics plugin ? Its for Winamp and WMP only right ?

This post has been edited by shymx: Mar 15 2010, 09:51 PM

well i have a creative x-fi 5.1 usb before, sold it off because some incompatibilities with my desktop. if you're using desktop i'd say better buy PCI one. if you're using laptop, i suggest just stick to the onboard one, unless your onboard is really bad.

the lyrics plugin should be ready to use, unless my foobar2000 experience some problem (if u have smaller screen resolution than mine). just click "lyrics" on the left corner it should be displaying the correct lyrics.

Okay. thanks a lot !

Update: 10 May 10
foobar2000 Guide

I have published all the latest guide into the instructables.com. Thanks for the download guys, if any of you are still new please proceed to the above-links for information.

This post has been edited by nismo91: May 10 2010, 02:40 PM

anymore user? please comment if there's defective part of the package. suggestions are greatly appreciated.

you are usbdevice in instructables? sweet
subscribed to you

as usual,power is me lol

haha cant think of a better name. sure no prob.

didnt noticed such thread exist, i actualy found this out myself, and since then i am a foobarian now and ever

Using S730, Very unpleasnat strong bass.... For Pop song such as RnB it's ok, but for Audiophile songs it's really killin the song. Need to set SW to +2 out of 10...

for the S730 try setting it the SW to 0 and increase the slider by only 7bars on 55hz only.

Ok, I'll try it once I get home ^^

using z4 now...thinking to get asus xonar U1 soundcard..anyone use this before? it can use got 3.5mm jack and optical head also...

lol, S730 has a strong and capable subwoofer. increasing too much bass (as the title) will
but, im sure it will still benefit if you find the appropriate setting.

never tried one. only got the x-fi usb. you can try this foobar if you want more 'oomph' from your Z4. but don't expect much. it's only using 4" driver.

If you have a seriously big room/place,the subwoofer will blend nicely
If you are in a small room then only

agree. placing my speakers in small bedroom sound terrible. once i place it in my living room, where my desktop stays, it sounded much much better.

in fact, all of the speakers i tested uses 8inch sub. with 5inch sub the difference is small. S730 is even bigger

Hi i have downloading the foobar.

After doing the steps above, how to open the Channel Mixer? To see the general, upmix, downmix, subwoofer, delay, profile.

Thanks.

in the top left, click file, go to preferences. choose playback in left column and select DSP Manager. then select ChannelMixer and add it into the active list.

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Added on June 15, 2010, 9:11 pmupdated first post.

This post has been edited by nismo91: Jun 15 2010, 09:11 PM

Ya i done that. After that do what? Nothing comes out after i put it to active list. Where to find the general tab, upmix tab, subwoofer tab?

+ General Tab > Set channels to 6 for 5.1 speakers.
+ Upmix Tab > Set upmix to Surround
+ Upmix Tab > Decide the sliders. the "rear in front" gives your front channel a more "depth", if you set it to 0 it would result in very dry sound. Vice versa.
+ Subwoofer Tab > Tick subwoofer to add more bass.

Thanks.

of course, u need to configure it. select it and click "Configure Selected". check out the 1st post for more pic.



This post has been edited by nismo91: Jun 16 2010, 11:30 AM

Thanks man! My headphone sounds really nice now!

lol no problem. mind you the "Channel Mixer" only works perfectly with 5.1 speakers / headphone. pay attention to the EQ (especially first 3 bars) for best result.

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Added on August 11, 2010, 12:59 pmup this thread...

This post has been edited by nismo91: Aug 11 2010, 12:59 PM

up this thread...

Thx man tried this on my old Edifier M1300 which currently running on only right speaker. The booms really BOOM.... will definitely use this guide again with my new 'soon' to buy R501 MK2/ C3
EDIT: I used the latest Foobar... the one you posted didn't really make difference.
EDIT 2: Um, looks like i forgot to disable all sound effects on my sound card... Your foobar also works now.

This post has been edited by akash3656: Sep 18 2010, 11:20 PM

thanks! enjoy your favourite PC speakers now

up for more bass in 2011.

lyricsplugin no longer working due to main website update. guy who translate the winamp software into foobar2000 no longer provide latest foo_uie_lyricsplugin.dll, please use MiniLyrics (free) if you want more lyrics. foobar2000 at version 1.1.2 now.

edifier c3 is the best ^^

Edifier C3, gonna get it by Friday, definitely will try this!

hope it helps... C3 subwoofer is weak if you're a basshead you will really love what foobar2000 does... goodluck.

Already test it, well, the result is kinda.. so so..
Perhaps my song lack off bass.
Edifier C3 got the audio clarity, but lack of bass.. i mean it.
Has resort to Sandbox.. fake bass..most the high tone bass comming out from the midrange lol.. no wonder noob out there *include me*, said Using SRS sandbox will boost ur bass..

Btw, I dont think C3 sub is weak, it just the amp it self.
Try google Edifier C5 and HCS 5640, all of em seem using the same speaker as C3,

now im start to think, should i swap my op amp or put some active subwoofer amp?

wow... +20dB also still weak? well from the first time i heard C3 i know it's designed that way. someone in the forum said he replaced the sub with rockford fosgate sub and the sound is great. so im also not sure the weaknesses lies in the amp or the subwoofer cone itself.

Do it! I also wanna see the result

If Logitech Z5500 ?

if you're not satisfied with Z5500 bass response you can use the foobar2000 EQ to tweak only the bass. depends on what you need though.

Well, if some forumer said replacing the sub will give extra bass, i guess the sub is the problem? i saw in some thread in lowyat, about Modding C3, complain about the quality of speaker cable in the sub it self, just normal black and white wire u found in pasar malam punya lampu...

Haha, in my dream lol. just bought these speaker, got 12 more month of warranty to go..

im not really sure, since i don't have C3... there is no documentation on what he done so we cannot confirm it yet.. it's also possible if he uses a better sub with lower impedance. it will quickly raise the bass output but will probably overheat the C3 amp when blasted.

but at least the good thing about C3 is that it is not muddy like say R501 when the bass is set to max in the console. what bass setting u using now?

bass setting i think 4, and treble 3.
for the bass, maxed but not soo muddy i think.

any1 did settings for HCS 2330?

please note for Edifier speakers with EIDC (similar to auto-gain control), you cannot set the bass too much otherwise the EIDC circuitry will kick in and thinks that it causes distortion. this explains the soften volume (one-pass equalization sound) effect.

affected speakers are Edifier Components speakers (such as C3, C2, HCS2330, etc) and MP300 so far that I know.

since HCS2330 features EIDC I am pretty sure you can't set too much bass otherwise it will be normalized by EIDC and causes unpleasant sound effect.

bro...
may i know how much is too much?for hcs2330....tq...

vaizard, you can try adding +7dB to the 55hz and click auto-level (to prevent clipping) and check if you hear any wobble audio effect when you are listening to songs.

if the wobble sound effect appears, reduce the 55hz one level and click auto-level again. repeat until you have found there are no wobble sound effect.

to make it simple, wobble sound effect is the filter sound, when the sound is loud and being 'pushed' to be softer and delayed, creating unpleasant effect.

using edifier MP300+ (also with EIDC), i have no problem with adding +7dB to the 55hz.

Bump for good topic!

hei bro,do u still hav ur ada885 wit u??i feel acs45.1 bass pawn ada885 anytime

@nismo91: Do you know the best equalizer setting for DA5000PRO? I expect for the great deep bass from it via my foobar2000.. but so far it has not coming yet.. its still feel a little bummy

hmm yes i do also have listen to ACS45.1 before but i think it has been damaged so i don't really know well. ADA885 the bass is not so loud, but is deep, that's why i like it. it really goes down to 27hz (depends on the room) which is important for me. now i keep the ADA885, just upgraded to megaworks 550.

hi, well as always, with foobar2000 EQ i only encourage to increase the 55hz slider only. and you must click auto-level. thing is, im not sure about DA5000Pro, whether it has EIDC like Edifier C3 or not. because if it has EIDC, im sorry but foobar2000 will not be able to add much bass.

typically, this is what i used:


but with different speakers and different room acoustic, i can use other settings too. if you want more punch, try to relocate the subwoofer. do note that different room have different sound feedback. i.e. small rooms with thick concrete wall will cause the bass to be over-boomy. in this case, it's not the speakers' fault.

Thanks nismo91,
I'll give it try the setting,info: DA 5000PRO don't have EIDC. I think I have to consider to minimize the wall reflection also as I have limited space for placing the big sub size in my room..

and one more thing: im not sure about DA5000Pro, but in my old Edifier R501, adding the bass does not equal to adding more boom.

instead, it just add more midbass which causes boomy and muddy bass, so i kept the bass at 5/9 (default). so i suggest you play with the bass settings while keep the foobar2000 at +10hz @ 55hz.

wow 0.0 the sound is freaking different compared to using winamp.. First time using foobar here.
I paired S530D with Xfi elite pro and nv fully utilize the speaker. Now i notice the big difference after using this -.-.
It's also portable and installation free.
Thumbs up.

+1, im trying for a month, now love this software.
the bass really deep & boom boom than winamp.



This post has been edited by MjMax15: Jul 30 2011, 01:20 AM

UPDATE 7 August 2011. See first post.

This post has been edited by nismo91: Aug 7 2011, 02:19 AM

bump! updated first post.

Great update,
I use your recommendation to minimize the super boomy bass from my stereo set (old tape recorder) combine with foobar2k, and it's work so well..
btw, my DA5000 PRO is now have much better bass quality, feel solid. It was actually haven't burned in since it was a new set..
Thanks nismo91

haha glad you appreciate it... not all speakers are perfect, sometimes we have to do something about it.

dont worry about burning in... just listen to it with more bass (from foobar2000) and sooner or later you'll notice it sound much better than when you just bought it... hope you enjoy the speaker..

hi guys,
I'm using C3, so the bass can't be increase very high or the sound will sound weird , ie. the singer's voice become silent a little on each kick of the bass (at first i thought pc/mobo spoilt, then found out its caused by the EIDC).
Now just started using Real Bass Exciter DSP, anyone else tried this?

bro..link expired for download~