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post Jan 31 2010, 02:15 PM, updated 16y ago

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First, I want to thanks Uncle Wilson @ Jaben for the review sample. SE-777 is available at Soundcat for $79 and Jaben if you ask.

Being Sherwood first attempt to the IEM market, I am glad that they didn't go to the usual / easier rebadging route but rather choose to design a new IEM on their own - even more surprising is that SE-777 actually sounds rather well consider it is priced in the most competitive section of them all - the sub$100 IEM market.

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Spec
Driver: Balanced Armature
Noise Isolation: -26dB
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 20kHz
Impedance: 53 ohm
Sensitivity: 105dB SPL/mW @ 1kHz
Cable: 1.2m
Weight: 31g
3.5mm gold plated mini plug.

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Packaging, Accessories, and Build Quality
SE-777 is very well packed, very classy in fact. The box opens in the middle and reveal both the IEM and the hardcase at the same time, as if you are opening an expensive gift. It is a fairly complicated paper box to put together yet it is simple and straightforward to open, which makes it standing apart from many other all-too-typical design.

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Inside the box, there are the IEM itself, three pair of single flange silicone eartips, one pair of bi-flange, a simple manual, and a hardcase. Though the included items are fairly standard accessories these days, they are all really well made. The only complaint I have is the overall length of the single flange eartips. They do feel solid to me, but they are a bit short. The problem is that the unusually large earpeice and the short eartips are simply a bad combo. To fit the eartips properly, I have to push the housing deeper than I usually would, and as a result feel quite uncomfortable when the earpieces are pressing against my ears. The solution is quite simple - I used some Sony Hybrid clone eartips instead of the stock single flange and now the earpieces sit at the right distance which won't irritate me anymore.

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The earpieces are fully metal with black and white anodized aluminum and in a sense, a bit unconventional in design. Beside a little bit heavier and larger than typical earpieces (especially since SE-777 is a balanced armatured based IEM), it feels very solid and have a class of its own. The design of the Y-splitter with a small metal logo certainly adds more points to the overall design. One of the place where you can see how well the build quality is the filter. Though it is a glued on filter like many other IEM, but it just looks seamless. It would have been great if Sherwood includes a few replacement filters in the package as well, but luckily the filter material doesn't seem to be easily contaminated.

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I am not sure whether it is due to the design or perhaps the material, but SE-777 has one of the least microphonics cable even when wearing in hanging / not-over-the-ear style. It is so quiet that I think it is almost as good as some over-the-ear IEM. There is no sound transmitted by the cable even when I am actively rubbing the cable. Isolation is decent, slightly better than average and good for daily use, but not enough to handle very loud noise.

In sum, despites a few minor issues here and there, SE-777 still proves to be a really well made IEM.

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Sound Quality
As always, SE-777 has been given a 50hrs+ burn-in before the review. The rounded shape of the earpieces is a bit intriguing to say the least. My speculation is that it employs a rounded balanced armature driver, much like those found on s-JAY and PL-50. In a way, SE-777 shares some common characteristic with s-JAYS and PL-50: the same kind of warmness in the sound, but SE-777 simply brings it to the next level of performance.

The overall sound signature is very warm and fairly musical, with a full sounding mid and bass. Treble is clean, very well extended but smooth, capable of showing a good degree of fine detail yet it is not the highlight of the sound. Mid is warm and full, slightly forward with a sweet vocal. Bass is also warm and bigger than average body, but slightly slower than expected (more dynamic-like) and do not have a very strong impact, not quite a bass monster and roll off at near 20Hz yet a very good performance (both quality and quantity wise) as far as BA based IEM is concerned. Soundstage is average due to the slightly forward mid, but there is still a good sense of airiness in it.

The Magic Combo
Generally I won't recommend pairing an easy-to-drive IEM with an portable amp unless the source can really benefit from a better amplification. In this case however, I do feel there is a very special synergy that can't not be ignored - a synergy so well that it lifts the performance of SE-777 to the next level. I am taking about pairing SE-777 with Linearossa W1, which I have reviewed here.

W1 has an unique sound signature of it own which I find to be good when paired with a warm sounding IEM. In this case, it gives SE-777 an extra wide
soundstage without taking away its warm, lovely mid. It also brings out more detail, making the overall sound much more balanced. The real question is, does the combo worths doubling the price of SE-777? At least for me, I think the combination has more than enough performance to rival many of the sub-$200 IEM option out there.

Conclusion
SE-777's warm and musical sound is fairly fatigue-less and non-aggressive, well suited for music lover who spend long hours on their IEM. If anything else, SE-777 is a fine example of how well the sub-$100 IEM has evolved with performance reaching / invading the next price range, and perhaps even beyond that. It is simply a superbly made IEM that out performs its asking price.

A quick sum up can be found here.
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post Jan 31 2010, 03:13 PM

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Another good review and the hard case is very very nice biggrin.gif
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post Jan 31 2010, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jan 31 2010, 03:13 PM)
Another good review and the hard case is very very nice biggrin.gif
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totally agree... kinda in love with the hard case already... wub.gif

ClieoS : since u got alot of iems... u can send me the hard case if u dun wan it... brows.gif or any unwanted iems / stuffs wub.gif i can be ur nice disposable place. wink.gif

the built quality looks GREAT...

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post Jan 31 2010, 07:19 PM

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ah.. new stuff in the similar price range summore...
sq 4/5? sounds interesting (pun intended)
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$79 eh~ RE0 seems better whistling.gif

but accessories wise I love the hard case on SE-777
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post Jan 31 2010, 09:43 PM

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ya .. loving the case too tongue.gif

SQ 4/5 ? and available at Jaben ?
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post Jan 31 2010, 10:19 PM

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not over the ear but good microphonic's control, nice leh. Microphonics is really annoying, even moving a bit interferes with the music.
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jan 31 2010, 07:57 PM)
$79 eh~ RE0 seems better whistling.gif

but accessories wise I love the hard case on SE-777
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can u get em re0 for me? hmm.gif
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post Feb 1 2010, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jan 31 2010, 10:31 PM)
can u get em re0 for me?  hmm.gif
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just order from head-direct lah....

btw... still if i bought this and dont like the sound siggy... i still would fall in love with the hard casing.... look so solid...
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Feb 1 2010, 10:06 AM)
just order from head-direct lah....

btw... still if i bought this and dont like the sound siggy... i still would fall in love with the hard casing.... look so solid...
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speaking of casing.. apart from purchasing iem with good case.. is there anywhere we can get those kind of hard case.. ?
gila cun this one, though i'd probably prefer some padding inside it.. if goncang2 rattling tak sronok.
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 31 2010, 06:03 PM)
totally agree... kinda in love with the hard case already...  wub.gif

ClieoS : since u got alot of iems... u can send me the hard case if u dun wan it... brows.gif or any unwanted iems / stuffs  wub.gif i can be ur nice disposable place.  wink.gif

the built quality looks GREAT...
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LOL !!
if like tat many people want liao laugh.gif
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 31 2010, 05:03 PM)
ClieoS : since u got alot of iems... u can send me the hard case if u dun wan it...  brows.gif or any unwanted iems / stuffs  wub.gif i can be ur nice disposable place.  wink.gif
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I don't even have enough case myself tongue.gif

QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Feb 1 2010, 12:13 PM)
is there anywhere we can get those kind of hard case.. ?
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There are some decent hardcase on eBay for about US$10 or less.
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since u always get stuffs from jaben... ( i thought u always get hippo wrap from them.. )
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post Mar 12 2010, 01:36 PM

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got this few days back with the w1..
still trying out.. what i can say is..
vocals r very natural sounding n forward.. and music presentation feels very spacious. would consider this a mid/vocal oriented iem.
comparing to eterna n re0.. eterna is bass oriented, re0 is treble oriented.

for now, if i want a relaxing sound, i'd use this.
still prefer my eterna for the sweet sounding highs n bass tho.. will probably do a comparison later.. still burnin this one.
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 12 2010, 01:36 PM)
got this few days back with the w1..
still trying out.. what i can say is..
vocals r very natural sounding n forward.. and music presentation feels very spacious. would consider this a mid/vocal oriented iem.
comparing to eterna n re0.. eterna is bass oriented, re0 is treble oriented.

for now, if i want a relaxing sound, i'd use this.
still prefer my eterna for the sweet sounding highs n bass tho.. will probably do a comparison later.. still burnin this one.
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How was the highs and bass when compared to eterna and re0?
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 13 2010, 12:59 AM)
How was the highs and bass when compared to eterna and re0?
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put it this way..
bass = eterna
vocal/mid = se777
high = re0


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post Mar 13 2010, 02:49 AM

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ya but how was the bass and highs on se777? especially with and without using the W1.
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post Mar 13 2010, 03:45 AM

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any1 compare this wif phonak PFE?
sound signature looks quite alike
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 13 2010, 02:49 AM)
ya but how was the bass and highs on se777? especially with and without using the W1.
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k i did compare them directly.. but on my listening volume.. which is very low to realize the potential of the se777, and probably the re0 as well...

re0 wins the highs.. more refined and clearer compared to both the se777 and eterna.
without amping, for high frequency,i would say i prefer eterna's high, but eterna's sound is actually a bit off.. se777 sounded more natural and correct, but not as refined as eterna. re0 is a bit too bright for my ears, i got tired after a bit (not painful, tired).. so.. i cant quite say.. just talking from memory when i did a direct comparison.. but it's definite the better ones..

i have the se777 with me.. so.. i can tell more on that.
what i can say is,
i find the highs are not quite refined without amping.
the w1 actually tones down and controls the bass (bass loses some juicyness here, but have same quality, i.e more controlled), thus widening the soundstage, and improves the 3D of the highs of se777, making it feels very spacious.

vocals, se777 wins. eterna is again slightly off here. in fact it sounded a bit muffled compared to se777. re0 is less forward in vocals compared to se777. not sure if amping affects the mids of the se777, but i dont really think so.

bass, eterna wins in juicyness, quality and quantity. with proper isolation, i find se777 gives quite good bass tho, but not as much as eterna. eterna's bass is more enjoyable. re0 has no bass to my ears.. again, possibly bcoz im listening to very low volume. (i usually use +1 volume before muting on my clip+, +3 outdoor, and barely goes above 40%), and the environment is not familiar (not my home.. tongue.gif)

im still burning the se777.. so.. no final say yet..
but overall.. my preference would still be eterna(unamped) as of now, though i did tune the eq a bit recently to get more accurate lows and highs. but i cant seem to fix the mids.. if se777 have a bit more quantity of the bass.. i think i'll prefer the se777 over eterna because of it's vocals and soundstage. the se777 however is very relaxing to listen to anyway..

re0.. i dont like.. too much highs. but i may have different opinion if i test it at home.

so.. quoting above again..
eterna wins in bass,
se777 wins in vocals,
re0 wins in high freq.

adding one more thing.. since i tried it as well, ortofon eq7, has the juicyness of the bass, the sweet vocal, and the clarity of the highs.. without either one outperforming the other.. i'd really like to have them if their price are on a sane level... drool.gif

I may update again later if i found any changes in SQ after long hr of burnin..
again.. please include all the standard disclaimer over here.. this is simply my opinion. biggrin.gif
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Ha, you have been quite busy lately biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Mar 13 2010, 12:50 PM)
Ha, you have been quite busy lately biggrin.gif
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DaEMoNteNTAcLe, well done review, as poisonous as ClieOS smile.gif

How is this compare to PL50 (budget balanced armature)?

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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 14 2010, 02:36 AM)
DaEMoNteNTAcLe, well done review, as poisonous as ClieOS smile.gif

How is this compare to PL50 (budget balanced armature)?
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thx for the compliment.
unfortunately i do not have, nor have ever listened to the pl50, so i cant give opinion on that.
if u want to try out the sherwood, u can drop by my place or anywhere arnd bangi.. i'll be free until this wednesday.. after that no more cuti2 panjang. sweat.gif
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RE0 indeed is a little lack in term of mids
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It is known of less bass and less soundstage... now less mid... seems less of many things now... unsure.gif

QUOTE(chicaman @ Mar 14 2010, 02:57 PM)
RE0 indeed is a little lack in term of mids
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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 14 2010, 03:24 PM)
It is known of less bass and less soundstage... now less mid... seems less of many things now...  unsure.gif
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when comparison done, it was concluded with something less here and there.
however, when the unit compared with 85% of other products, or something that higher than this range. the RE0 still considered the legend biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yuheng @ Mar 14 2010, 08:03 PM)
when comparison done, it was concluded with something less here and there.
however, when the unit compared with 85% of other products, or something that higher than this range. the RE0 still considered the legend biggrin.gif
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i find that it's very hard to find iem, or earphone with good sounding highs anyways.. most of them r harsh.. so i cant really use them coz it hurts my ears..
but re0 doesnt, even though it's very bright and has well played highs.. so, it still deserve a good credit.

anyways.. seems like i really need m04r basss... coz i tried the atrio m8 (thx chingwooi for bringing it) and it sounded nice..
update: changed to sony hybrid tips... and.. seems like i got m04r bass.. drool.gif
will test out a few..
yep.. possibly lack of burnin (just started tryin again after another 10hr burnin today, total about 30hr..) and also isolation issue.. found with proper isolation.. i got more juice from the music. thumbup.gif

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post Mar 15 2010, 03:04 AM

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I like recessed mids though because i think it should sound like that since our ears are most sensitive on mids.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 15 2010, 03:04 AM)
I like recessed mids though because i think it should sound like that since our ears are most sensitive on mids.
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i used to think that..
until i heard balance..
then.. i heard kayu...
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post Mar 15 2010, 03:03 PM

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okay, my previous iem was Philips SHE9850

compared to that, SE777 is very very clear sound... different level of audio...

but why they design the case like so many sharp edges ... painful when you insert the IEM too deep and it 'cut' your skin
also, isolation is a problem because my Philips SHE9850 has a 'normal' size for attaching the tips, and i can use Etymotic tips which are isolation specialists ...
but SE777 is 2x huge, so not sure if i can find tips with good isolation + can fit on ...

but one more good thing is the cable doesnt make the scratching sound when you rub it, much better than my SHE9850



listening music for 15 minutes, my ears all red already... stupidlah this case design, look like it was made in 1990 , wear properly also cannot....


Added on March 15, 2010, 6:47 pmi almost feel regret buying this IEM, so much pain in my ears... Walabies recommend it to me, but i recommend people DONT buy this

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As I have pointed out on the review, the stock eartips isn't really that well. I uses clone Sony Hybrid on mine and don't have any problem anymore, bi-flanges should work as well.

QUOTE(ClieOS @ Jan 31 2010, 02:15 PM)
...The only complaint I have is the overall length of the single flange eartips. They do feel solid to me, but they are a bit short. The problem is that the unusually large earpeice and the short eartips are simply a bad combo. To fit the eartips properly, I have to push the housing deeper than I usually would, and as a result feel quite uncomfortable when the earpieces are pressing against my ears. The solution is quite simple - I used some Sony Hybrid clone eartips instead of the stock single flange and now the earpieces sit at the right distance which won't irritate me anymore.
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Mar 15 2010, 07:40 PM)
As I have pointed out on the review, the stock eartips isn't really that well. I uses clone Sony Hybrid on mine and don't have any problem anymore, bi-flanges should work as well.
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i have the sony clone eartips as well
the stock double flanges are longer than the sony clone eartips, so they keep the casing further out than the sony clone eartips... but it is still not far enough
if i can find an even longer tip, then i think it will be ok

but that is only avoiding the problem... its not solving the problem....
the problem is the stupid square bracket , so many sharp edges on it, and so thick also...

im going to buy the comply foam tips, because they are not flanges it means they dont 'overlap' with the casing, and it should keep the casing even further from my ear...

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post Mar 15 2010, 11:19 PM

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@ClieOS bro, do you think T100 long stem comply tips will fit SE777?
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Not sure about T100. As fas as Comply goes, I only have T400 and Comply-P with me now, and T400 fits just fine. SE777 has the large nozzle size so those that meant for small nozzle probably won't fit.
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also, the nozzle has a huge 'rim' which makes it look like a pipe from Mario Bros , so the tip will need to have a thick 'lip' to go behind this 'rim'

comply foams have different stalks meant for different IEM's, hopefully there is one which will fit the SE777
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Is there a ergonomics quick fix for people with smaller ears?
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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 16 2010, 08:19 AM)
Is there a ergonomics quick fix for people with smaller ears?
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have to disassemble the IEM, take the bracket and use Dremel to carve the corners
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update:
gave this thing about 2-3hr pink noise with eq 20-700hz bumped a bit at my mid listening volume..
and after that i got ample amount of bass.. bass wasnt really there in the first place...

and continued burnin for about 20hr.. and now it doesnt sound harsh anymore.. this thing requires quite sometime to settle down..
otherwise clarity is very good. i'd use this to listen to orchestra and guitars.

now back to using the bi-flanges, i like the materials of the tips.. it's kinda between plastic and rubber, and doesnt seem to get oily. other stock flanges are too short for my use that the body touches my ears..


Added on March 18, 2010, 2:18 pmupdate again:
my ph0ne broke..
so got a replacement.. k850..
then suddenly i found the output is quite strong..
so used my w1 to dampen the output.. with the se777..
damn i got hifi.. (to my ears at least.. laugh.gif)

and also noticed that fitting is actually kinda big issue with the se777.. when i manage to get proper fit.. i find the overall signature to be quite to my liking.. instead of just having nice vocals.. but i cant be holding this to my ears all the time.. sad.gif

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im sensitive to the biflanges, the pressure in my ear is painful and it makes the contact of the body with my skin worse
using comply foams, better isolation, more comfy , somehow i can insert them deeper without feeling anything... and it makes it sound less harsh treble as well

can anyone contact sherwood or comply? i have suggestion ... the 'stalk' of the foam should be extended, so it will hold the body further away, then it should stop touching...
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QUOTE(carmatic @ Mar 18 2010, 06:42 PM)
can anyone contact sherwood or comply? i have suggestion ... the 'stalk' of the foam should be extended, so it will hold the body further away, then it should stop touching...
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Why not just wrote to Comply yourself. I am sure they will like to listen to constructive feedback.
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QUOTE(carmatic @ Mar 18 2010, 06:42 PM)
using comply foams, better isolation, more comfy , somehow i can insert them deeper without feeling anything... and it makes it sound less harsh treble as well
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try give it some time.. i found the harshness gone after about 80hr burnin..

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 18 2010, 08:07 PM)
try give it some time.. i found the harshness gone after about 80hr burnin..
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the harshness its not my problem... its the fit of the casing in my ear, very uncomfortable
if longer tips are used, the treble will be reduced even further... but it is the only way to avoid injury to my ear

actually i like the way it sounds now, nice and crisp... i hope it doesnt get duller over time
these IEM's remind me when i was using open-type dynamic full size headphones, when i didnt have to worry about noise isolation... ever since i bought closed headphones, and my last IEM's, i have to get used to the sound like scratching paper like that... but now these IEM's sound much better

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How much did you guys bought the SE777?
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How much did you guys bought the SE777?
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QUOTE(carmatic @ Mar 19 2010, 12:22 AM)
the harshness its not my problem... its the fit of the casing in my ear, very uncomfortable
if longer tips are used, the treble will be reduced even further... but it is the only way to avoid injury to my ear

actually i like the way it sounds now, nice and crisp... i hope it doesnt get duller over time
these IEM's remind me when i was using open-type dynamic full size headphones, when i didnt have to worry about noise isolation... ever since i bought closed headphones, and my last IEM's, i have to get used to the sound like scratching paper like that... but now these IEM's sound much better
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i get ur point, tho my main concern here is just sq..
fit is more of a personal problems.. tho i have changed to comply tips (t400 can fit.. a bit hard to install tho)..
and no worries.. sq just gets more refined after burnin.. signature doesnt change..

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QUOTE(shadowshine @ Mar 19 2010, 01:58 PM)
Does BA driver improve after burn-in? smile.gif
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i think i read summwhere ba drivers need more time to burn in..
plus also needs higher volume to appreciate the sound..
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Hi Carmatic, did the comply I sent to u fits? Hope it does well to u.
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waiting for it to arrive

question want to ask, how can i give suggestion to Sherwood?
the case can be dissasembled, that means you can change the front of the casing... so if the front change to smaller stalk, that means can use etymotic, shure, westone, etc tips
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Got such mod? smile.gif
I will send you the T400 soon. But I saw your pictures that you manage to put the complies T100 in dont you?

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yes, in this reply http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=32537125 i already said that they have more isolation and more comfort

i am waiting to try out the t400's to see if they can keep the casing away from my ear entirely

and about the "mod" ... its supposed to be a suggestion to Sherwood, if they can make different shape front half case then its good, we can buy it as 'aftermarket parts' and customize our SE777's

but if not, then i buy dremel and micrometer caliper...

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something to read for sherwood users..
modding ftw~ rclxm9.gif

http://www.touchmyapps.com/2010/04/08/sher...hone-in-review/

to bro PcWork... ini maw cuba? xD

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any crazy ideas on how to mod it? biggrin.gif
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dunno.. havent pried open mine.. dah bukak baru tau...
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Why u want to open it cool.gif
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QUOTE(walabies @ May 3 2010, 08:58 PM)
Why u want to open it cool.gif
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er... woods? wub.gif
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Put some wood in it? biggrin.gif

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er... woods? wub.gif
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unless u can find a CNC to machine high percision wood casing for that.
else where u going to obtain the wood casing of that?

more over the driver is glued to front part of the casing. so the aluminium casing at front for sure can't be replaced.
so ucan only mod the rear black plastic.




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QUOTE(PcWork @ May 4 2010, 12:31 AM)
unless u can find a CNC to machine high percision wood casing for that.
else where u going to obtain the wood casing of that?

more over the driver is glued to front part of the casing. so the aluminium casing at front for sure can't be replaced.
so ucan only mod the rear black plastic.
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dont have access to CNC..
i do have dremel tho..
gonna be hard to do precision work, but.. it should still be possible.. high quality furniture are purely hand crafted anyways.. (not that i have that skills)...
but i think gonna try,
and im just thinking of modding the rear black plastic.. so gonna have wooden sound reflector(box?) instead..
who knows it just might combine the benefits of alu (high sparkle) and woods (bass reverb/rumble)...

now the problem is finding woods.. and time to work.. + precision measurement and cutting(which i sux)...
i dont even have a work table laugh.gif
maybe next year then.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 19 2010, 03:09 PM)
i think i read summwhere ba drivers need more time to burn in..
plus also needs higher volume to appreciate the sound..
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Em if I'm not mistaken, IEM with BA drivers doesn't benefit much from burning in. Only dynamic driver IEM needs burnt-in to shine~
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ May 4 2010, 10:08 AM)
Em if I'm not mistaken, IEM with BA drivers doesn't benefit much from burning in. Only dynamic driver IEM needs burnt-in to shine~
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debate is there for a long ti3m alrdy..
my experience tells me otherwise.
anyways, as long as there is moving parts.. i think burnin will effect.
a more valid theory would be the cables, or crossover, or transducer, needs to burn.

apart from that..
other stuff that i burn in...

PC
- processor, ram..

Car
- engine (new only), tyres (a good tips, would be to run a new wheel at 60-100km/h for about 15-30mins, and then leave it to cool down for a few hours.. to settle the rubber compound, u'll get slightly better wheel life.)

dunno what else to i burned.. er.. food? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ May 4 2010, 11:18 AM)
debate is there for a long ti3m alrdy..
my experience tells me otherwise.
anyways, as long as there is moving parts.. i think burnin will effect.
a more valid theory would be the cables, or crossover, or transducer, needs to burn.

apart from that..
other stuff that i burn in...

PC
- processor, ram..

Car
- engine (new only), tyres (a good tips, would be to run a new wheel at 60-100km/h for about 15-30mins, and then leave it to cool down for a few hours.. to settle the rubber compound, u'll get slightly better wheel life.)

dunno what else to i burned.. er.. food? laugh.gif
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Kinda funny when i first heard that amplifier need Burn-in?! Transistor and chips need to burn in?! But not until I get my Muse dac/amp... they really need to burn in to sound good!

and my G1A... 100 hours burn-in still not enough!!!
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ May 4 2010, 11:18 AM)
debate is there for a long ti3m alrdy..
my experience tells me otherwise.
anyways, as long as there is moving parts.. i think burnin will effect.
a more valid theory would be the cables, or crossover, or transducer, needs to burn.

apart from that..
other stuff that i burn in...

PC
- processor, ram..

Car
- engine (new only), tyres (a good tips, would be to run a new wheel at 60-100km/h for about 15-30mins, and then leave it to cool down for a few hours.. to settle the rubber compound, u'll get slightly better wheel life.)

dunno what else to i burned.. er.. food? laugh.gif
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Food need to cool down a bit only can eat. biggrin.gif rclxm9.gif
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just got this great earphone from Jaben after auditioned 5 earphones!!! at last this earphone suits my ears....but one thing for sure its a little bit uncomfortable using the stock eartips provided...so, where to get the Sony Hybrid eartips as the reviewer's mentioned??
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wow.. this is kinda old, anyways.. im not sure where other than ebay.
other than the hybrid, u can try a normal bi-flange that jaben sells, or comply tips.
i found the bi-flange to fit better than the stock bi-flange, the stock one is very hard. the bi-flange wont affect the sound.. maybe very little if it does.
comply tips would give slightly more body on the low freq, and also smoothen the treble a bit.
u can also try a normal single flange silicon tips, but problem with it is that the opening is larger than the stock tips, u'll end up with vocals that is slightly more forward, and slightly lesser bass.
anyways nice iem u got there.. there's not much other that can beat the mids and vocals of the se777, plus the good depth in soundstage.
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even if i use the bi-flange/comply, the square thing on the earphones still hurting me a lot.. so nowadays i just wear it over the ears
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SE-777 user reporting in. right bro.daemon?  rolleyes.gif
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righto.. how r u finding them?
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 23 2010, 06:02 PM)
wow.. this is kinda old, anyways.. im not sure where other than ebay.
other than the hybrid, u can try a normal bi-flange that jaben sells, or comply tips.
i found the bi-flange to fit better than the stock bi-flange, the stock one is very hard. the bi-flange wont affect the sound.. maybe very little if it does.
comply tips would give slightly more body on the low freq, and also smoothen the treble a bit.
u can also try a normal single flange silicon tips, but problem with it is that the opening is larger than the stock tips, u'll end up with vocals that is slightly more forward, and slightly lesser bass.
anyways nice iem u got there.. there's not much other that can beat the mids and vocals of the se777, plus the good depth in soundstage.
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Hi hi...just started in this IEM world...so pretty newbie in this...so that is why i need an IEM that is just nice to suit my ears and to not succumb to the poisons of headfi.org...in my opinion, choosing an IEM is really depends on each individual and Jaben really provide a platform for newbies like me to choose which IEM that suits my taste in music...and its so happens that se777 can fulfill my music needs. Will try to go to KLAV tomorrow to get the biflange you recommended...

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QUOTE(zad78 @ Jul 23 2010, 08:41 PM)
Hi hi...just started in this IEM world...so pretty newbie in this...so that is why i need an IEM that is just nice to suit my ears and to not succumb to the poisons of headfi.org...in my opinion, choosing an IEM is really depends on each individual and Jaben really provide a platform for newbies like me to choose which IEM that suits my taste in music...and its so happens that se777 can fulfill my music needs. Will try to go to KLAV tomorrow to get the biflange you recommended...
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just one more thing, since everyone's ear shape is not the same, if possible try test other options u have as well. good luck.
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 23 2010, 08:43 PM)
just one more thing, since everyone's ear shape is not the same, if possible try test other options u have as well. good luck.
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Well i do agree that the stock sherwood tips is a little bit hard for my ears...so i need something a little softer...will try other option tomorrow
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 23 2010, 07:45 PM)
righto.. how r u finding them?
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