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post Jan 26 2010, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jan 26 2010, 08:37 AM)
Rumours...any source regarding this? icon_question.gif

I dun think so la coz, if the channel go hd, sure the price up then people will not subscribe..hehe,then but its maybe true oso coz world is towards digital transmission rite..
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I dun think it's possible to go HD with SD channels. Go HQ, yes, but not HD. Convert from DVB-S1 MPEG-2 to DVB-S2 H264 will improve picture quality by leaps and bounds, but 576i is still not HD no matter how you put it, even if it's upscaled to 720p/1080i on Astro's end.

QUOTE(eMKs @ Jan 26 2010, 09:13 AM)
Who is the reliable sources? Please give the link at least.
If that true, most likely for the channel that already have HD content. But Astro has more channel that still not available in HD, esp local content.

Please bring ESPN HD first la....  mad.gif
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I think their source is Wikipedia. The uncyclopedia that any troll can use to destroy the lives of thousands of people with just a click of the mouse.

Once you get used to looking up Wikipedia, first thing you do is check their references. If no references then it's probably a crock of bull...

QUOTE(kelvin @ Jan 26 2010, 09:19 AM)
Please don't confuse ppl here when the news is NOT confirm.  sad.gif
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Agreed. And double check your info before posting.

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post Jan 26 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jan 26 2010, 10:46 AM)
- change to new cable (some people still use existing cable & still ok)
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Depends on when you install the Astro decoder I guess. I see that older installations have slightly thinner wire. My grandparents' place install in 2003, cable looks like normal antenna cable. My house install last year, cable noticeably thicker.
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jan 26 2010, 11:56 AM)
Thats right too, so then maybe  complete HD could be just rumours ! hmm.gif


Added on January 26, 2010, 11:57 am
The answer is NO Asstro is NOT weather Proof  hmm.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Like I said a dozen times before, If you think about it, it's just not practical to upscale SD to HD. Upscale HD means more bandwidth only on Astro's side and the picture may be no better than the decoder's own built-in upscaler. Couple that with the fact that there's no more than 2 dozen HD channels available in Asia region. Converting to DVB-S2 and H264 completely but maintaining current resolution, on the other hand, does have advantage of reducing bandwidth while improving PQ tremendously, meaning Astro can offer more channels and sharper picture because bandwidth reduce.

QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jan 26 2010, 12:06 PM)
record capability is in the future use...and dunno when it is...the system oso dunno...have to pay or not...
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US sat providers like Dish and DirecTV charge customers for that function. Hope Astro doesn't.

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jan 26 2010, 01:39 PM)
Does ESPD HD transmitted to Singapore too?  hmm.gif
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http://mio.singtel.com/miotv/channels-on-demand_channels.asp
http://www.starhub.com/tv/moreforyourtv/hd...ml#tabcontrol-2

MioTV:
- HD5
- Li
- We TV
- Sundance

Starhub:
- HD5
- Nat Geo HD
- Discovery HD
- History HD
- Sports HD
- ASN HD (the channel Astro Supersports HD is leaching off 99% of the time)
- HBO HD

Hmmm, looks like Singapore has no ESPN HD after all... Does this channel really exist or did Astro pull the name out of thin air?

Also, where's AXN HD? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jan 26 2010, 01:58 PM)
Please note that Astro supersport HD is only showing selected  matches from ASN and is Off air most of the time icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ok. The channel that ASSP HD is leaching on 99% of the time if they're on-air then.

QUOTE(smileguy @ Jan 26 2010, 01:55 PM)
Lets not cast too many expectations on ESPN HD it may not be as expected just Wait N See ! Astro  assured ESPN HD but remember the schedule could be a surprise or could be a  dissappointment. I guess the schedule terms is causing the delay .As it is we have Asian versions and now even malaysian versions  so hold on please ! hmm.gif
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I'm betting that it's something run from Astro's own transmitter, they just license the name only. Unless we're going to be the first in Asia to get the channel...

QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jan 26 2010, 01:56 PM)
AXN HD now in Portogal only. rclxms.gif
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Then dun need to expect it for now lor. Portugal means that it's only relayed to European satellites. Must wait for a AXN HD Asia. Which is unlikely because we dun even have AXN Beyond after that promo phase. Singapore has it oredi.

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QUOTE(gaarared @ Jan 26 2010, 02:10 PM)
Why dont astro include discovery HD too??
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Nobody knows why. Most people on this forum demand for the channel anyway.

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QUOTE(gaarared @ Jan 26 2010, 02:21 PM)
Maybe discovery channel more expensive than nat geo, but i prefer
discovery than nat geo.
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Maybe. But this really show how short term their thinking is. It's more expensive, but will get more people to sign up/upgrade, and they break even faster right?

Or do they still have a decoder shortage problem (which also show how shortsighted they are)? Like the Smart TAG, always out of stock one...

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jan 26 2010, 02:53 PM)
They roll out earlier because they want to break even faster (I think la). Also they want to pioneer HDTV market in Malaysia (TM IPTV schedule to launch in Jan this year, but still not available). Eventhough only 4 channel avaialable & they are not fully prepared in term of installer, but subscribers numbers boom already. Maybe it's commercial issue on Discovery HD & some of other channel, who knows. Remember how desperate Astro to sign an exclusive right when they know MiTV planned to launch their PayTV. Maybe we need competitor to make it more faster.
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We do have competitors. Problem is their PQ is even worse than Astro because they're using IPTV and you cannot get good PQ through a 1Mbps stimix line. And IPTV status still huru-hara, so far all ISPs with capping will count IPTV traffic towards the quota. That, and the competitors are not taking the business seriously, only targeting niche market (FineTV? All Malay programming. DeTV? All China/Taiwan channels, will only appeal to Chinese/Taiwanese expats).

QUOTE(m_imrun @ Jan 26 2010, 03:29 PM)
I heard that PQ of the SD channel become poor when watching astro byond. Is this true?
How about the other SD channel, are we till get in 4:3 format or 16:9?
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So far, I dun see that. SD still looks reasonable. I agree with the other members tho, maybe your eyes used to HD already that suddenly switching to SD will become noticable and irritating.

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QUOTE(m_imrun @ Jan 26 2010, 05:17 PM)
Hi,
I'm not sure if it has been discussed in the old thread,

If i'm not mistaken, astro beyond decoder has 3 output right? (coxial, HDMI, and Composite)

Let say, i want to put the beyond in the living room. using the HDMI cable connect to LCD tv. Then, i use the composite output to connect another tv in my room using RCA cable. This is possible right?

The problem is, i can't change the channel when i am in the room. Is there a device to send the remote control IR signal to the decoder in the living room? Can i use AEM xtra link 2 just to change the channel only? or there is a more simple and cheaper device, such as hidden IR repeater system.
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Astro Byond outputs are HDMI, component (YCbCr) and Composite.

Yes, you can use HDMI on LCD TV in living room and composite in another room using RCA and at the same time.

An AEM xtra link 2 should work okay.

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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jan 26 2010, 08:17 PM)
I want axn hd before any other hd channel!!
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um, if you read again, there is NO AXN HD Asia stream. So far only European stream and perhaps only available on satellites covering Europe (or only unique to Portugal by cable and no satellite feed at all). Astro cannot carry because there are no satellite coverage of the stream in Asia. Thus no way of getting it in Asia. If Astro want to carry they have to practically create new channel and run it from their facility (i.e. just license the name, but content all ownself provide. Like what they're apparently going to do with ESPN HD) unless they wait for the Singapore AXN facility to launch the channel in Asia. And given how Astro doesn't even have the complete AXN channel line-up (dun even have AXN Beyond permanently compared to Starhub), I just don't see it happening.

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Jan 27 2010, 02:38 AM)
I have seen many, many LNBs covered with things ranging from plastic bags to the bottom of a coke bottle! Those people..  sweat.gif
Anyone wanna bet that we will soon see a custom, bigger, 1M Astro dish?  biggrin.gif
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It'd be hilarious if that happen. Polis come serbu because thought it's an illegal C-Band dish, only to find it's for Astro laugh.gif
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Post removed due to sensitive topic...

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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jan 27 2010, 11:05 AM)
bro..please beware ur statement...we are in open thread...dun write any uncomfirm facts..tq
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I saw the announcement on Measat's website itself a long time ago, but understood. Sorry, I'll not do it again.
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jan 27 2010, 04:32 PM)
ramchyld...not firing u but sometimes sensitive thing should be considered...hehe me just give u the point...please edit the post...tq!!
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Ok, removed post content. You want to tell smileguy to delete his post as well?

I apologize again, I made that post out of frustration. I just want BBC Entertainment back, and I guess I'm just upset that the channels with the shows I want is available in Singapore but not in Malaysia. And to make things worse Wikipedia has false information that the channel is already in Malaysia when it's not.

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jan 27 2010, 05:38 PM)

Added on January 27, 2010, 5:42 pm
Point noted post duly edited icon_rolleyes.gif
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Erm, please remove that quote of me. Thanks.

QUOTE(razuryza @ Jan 27 2010, 06:28 PM)
same goes to me... why hah? but got people can view it clearly...sakit ati toll


Added on January 27, 2010, 6:56 pmdamn! heavy rain.. no signal! hahaha.. mengong
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Check the cable. Maybe poor shielding, picking up interference from somewhere. Also try adding a voltage regulator to the TV and byond (and AVR if you have one) power supply. Usually does wonders.
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Jan 27 2010, 11:14 PM)
i dont think the cable is the prob...coz.. i'm using it with my dvd player and it works like charm...
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Then try using a voltage regulator. If still got problem, well, maybe your decoder have problems?

QUOTE(m_imrun @ Jan 28 2010, 05:08 AM)
Astro should broadcast all the other SD channels in 16:9 format for b.yond subscriber. We can see that most of the TV programme in astro is already in 16:9 format. Such as discovery channel, animal planet but the subtitle and the channel logo is still in the black bars zone. When we zoom the picture using the LCD tv. We are unable to see the subtitle and the channel logo.
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Agreed. Hope they do that and convert everyone to using DVB-S2 and H264. Although if you think about it, it's Discovery that's airing 4:3 with the black bars. If it's Astro's doing the logo will still be inside the picture (this is more visible with BBC News and Australia Network, both channels transmitting SD 16:9, but Astro crop to 4:3. Can sometimes notice logo partially go offscreen, especially since the picture is fullscreen).



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QUOTE(Bishop @ Jan 28 2010, 01:17 PM)
noob question. Just got Byond installed. Havent activated yet so cant try.  I am using an AVR. I understand that 5.1 DD cannot be transmitted through HDMI. So need to use Coaxial cable. Can I use normal RCA cable or I need to get a Coaxial cable. From what I read the difference is in the quality of the cable only.

Can the normal RCA cable carry 5.1 DD, Anyone know?
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Yes, you can use regular RCA cable for Coaxial. I've been doing that for years with a DVD player sweat.gif

Actually tho, TallJustin already posted correction. B.yond does carry 5.1DD through HDMI after all. Just have to make sure your AVR can process 5.1DD audio that's sent through HDMI and not just do a direct passthrough of the HDMI port to TV.

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QUOTE(iceggy @ Jan 28 2010, 02:19 PM)
MIGHT is the correct word to use. It all depends on how the cable is constructed. You can use any cables and just get a RCA jack.
The most important question is whether the signal is transmitted successfully. After this, you will be starting the discussion that it does not matter because it is a digital signal, it is either 1 or 0.

All this has been widely discuss in forums all around the world. In the end, it is all about personal choice.

As for my choice, I bought Audioquest VDM-A as my digital coaxial cable. It cost RM110.
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Heheh, I used cheapo RM10 cable with two RCA connectors, torn it into half and using only the black one (red one go and do something else with it).

Successfully transferred 5.1DD signal from DVD player to SoundBlaster Extigy...

But I guess, all in all, in the end it's how well the cable is constructed.

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jan 29 2010, 09:57 AM)
Funny, TV3 was the first station here to aired tv program on 3D. Like on year 2000 or 2001. Also, TV3 does aired Jaws on 3D that time... hmm.gif
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Right, they did. Using red-blue glasses (red-green also works to a certain extent. I watched the movie using a pair of red-green glasses I got from inside a box of Koko Krunch. Relly syok).

Some people claim got headache after watching that movie. If TV3 had went with polarized glasses instead of anaglyph glasses, probably less headache (although to be fair, polarized glasses cost RM50++ a pair compared to anaglyph glasses).

And as I said before, 3D is very possible even now. All Astro have to do is run the 3D images through a image processor to convert from the default 3D system to the polarized system. Problem is that polarized glasses is harder to get here. Anaglyph glasses can get from any 3D comic at any stationery/magazine/book store. Polarized glasses, I dunno if any shop got sell. Probably have to special order.

And actually, before TV3, RTM got air a particular French cartoon which also have 3D, called Bot Master. When the hero shouts out "Lazer time, boys!" the viewers are expected to put on special glasses. Too bad RTM miss the boat for being called "first station to broadcast in 3D" by skimping on marketing. The glasses weren't sold in Malaysia until long after the cartoon ended, and RTM did not advertise the cartoon as 3D at all.

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QUOTE(l_berd @ Jan 29 2010, 10:15 AM)
i saw the ESPN HD brief announcement (sth like a small icon near the top left of the screen) while watching NHL yesterday.. not sure what it writes cos its only there for 5 seconds top. but im sure i saw the ESPN HD logo tongue.gif
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You sure it's not because ASN in turn took the show from ESPN HD in the US (where there's actually a ESPN HD)? laugh.gif

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