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post Mar 4 2010, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Mar 4 2010, 08:28 AM)
Please be noticed, please update the list by ur own, just cut n paste....tq!!
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guys looks like Astro has put up 9 TEST channels today hope got HD channels coming !!! hmm.gif
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post Mar 4 2010, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(azzjoker @ Mar 4 2010, 12:54 PM)
how u know?
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check list of channels hmm.gif
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post Mar 5 2010, 06:45 AM

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QUOTE(dxjb @ Mar 5 2010, 04:43 AM)
if im not mistaken these test channels are always there long before Byond
Try checking on old decoder
Anyways if there were new TEST channels than i think its for the World Cup
Astro will probably set up temporary channels to show the matches
They will show ALL 64 MATCHES IN HD
Some matches will be at the same time so thats why they need more than a few channels
I dont expect any new HD channels
Maybe just before World Cup in May or june to attract new subscribers
But my gut feeling is new channels only after World Cup
It would be more strategic as people will need new reason to subscribe for Byond since the World Cup will be over
Astro said at least 10 HD channel by end of 2010
We already got 5
Lets wait and see

BTW, RTM so kepochi they got the terrestrial rights for World Cup eventhough only 24 matches Live adn 11 delayed
Their advertisement start in January already
So bangga they beat Media Prima (TV3 nTV7 8TV TV9)
Even have slogan 1Malaysia 1 Sorakan, WTF?
Astro can show 64 matches LIVE also not so kepochi!!!
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Lets not forget RTM is supposed to go HD this year get ready for another thread RTM HD ! tongue.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Mar 5 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 5 2010, 08:09 AM)
RTM is free.. ASTRO?
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Bro I dont think RTM HD is Free, When HD, RTM got standard oredi cannot free decorder also NOT FREE !! cry.gif yawn.gif
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post Mar 5 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Mar 5 2010, 02:23 PM)
That issue, you should blame local electronics industry for not wanting to introduce digital receiver with their TV yet. England already have successor to Sharp 19A35: 19D1E. Malaysia still selling 19A35. Heck, even Singapore already introduced TV sets with digital tuner. And the wallbanger is that these sets will work fine in Malaysia.
I think Digital TV standard already ratified to be DVB-T and now their argument is whether digital radio should be DAB+ or DMB-T (as a bonus, DMB-T can also do TV. Maybe that's why their DMB-T transmission only has RTM1 and 2, but all national radio channels and buttloads of state-specific channels like Sabah FM and Sarawak FM. Likewise their DVB-T transmission has new TV channels but only the national radio channels.)
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Please ,I hope the dont come up with tuners now. As it is most of us bought HD ready sets 7 yrs ago with component outports and with Astro's HD all the sets are best disposed.We never used those sets cos there was no HD. We were cheated too now we know HD ready and full HD are 2 different things. As such its best they dont add digital tuners now cos many of us just upgraded our HTS and we cannot afoord another change ! cry.gif
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post Mar 6 2010, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Mar 6 2010, 03:18 AM)
You didn't catch their trial during the olympics, didn't you?
Exactly my same argument, sir. Is it even right to call it on-demand? The correct definition for "on-demand" is what it says on the tin- you only transmit it when asked for, to the requester and no one else. Like Netflix meets Youtube. Not show one episode of a show over and over and over. The technology means that you can do it with only one channel, no need 25.
I thought Arena will be RTM's? They do have an Arena channel on the digital transmission.
Forget about it, Astro is seriously lacking in lots of channels that Singapore already has and apparently isn't really arsed about bringing them in. They just confirmed with me that the 9 test channels is for FIFA world cup when I called them this evening to make the exact complain regarding the channels Singapore and Indonesia has and we don't have.
I think it was pushed back to 2012?
That's nice, enjoy RTM Digital a few days then Boom! end of the world.
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as far channel shoice is concerned for Astro its take it or leave it situation. They are big so they always control channels and channel contents.The monopoly of being a sole provider helped them prosper.Arena has been shelved cos of RTM's intervention for some rights , I read somewhere.The same old story again RTM HD tak jadi, TMIPTV tak jadi MITV tak jadi but Singapore so small you have two providers there here so big but only one walks tall vmad.gif Indian fare is worst, at least you guys got AOD! AOD can be replaced with another super package for all at least we wl have more choices! I pay 124pm but at times I have nothing to watch ! mad.gif
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post Mar 7 2010, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(penangmee @ Mar 7 2010, 01:15 AM)
But Singapore will not be having World Cup!!!!
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I think they wl have it last minute cos public hmm.gif interest matters !
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post Mar 10 2010, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Mar 10 2010, 12:21 AM)
Upscale SD to HD is pretty much moot. Won't bring back details lost when dropping resolution to SD...

As for the Kampus Astro box... Has the Max logo there tongue.gif Maybe they are thinking of relaunching Max?

Also, today I received the DETV decoder I subscribed for my mother. PQ better than Astro SD although definitely tak setanding HD. I initially had issues with connectivity but the connection problem went away when I changed my AP to CH11 from CH8 (which for some reason quite a few APs also share that channel in my area). Mom very happy that she get her china channels again.

But the biggest thing is they're doing it through a 1MBPS stimix line. Something TM keeps telling me is impossible to do through stimix with their IPTV box and insisting that it needs their HSBB to work due to "technical limitations" and then refusing to let me sign up because my area has no HSBB. Excuse me, the letters "IPTV" makes me believe that their decoder connects to the router by ethernet (which is validated with the fact that the TM fiber system is a data-only system with IP Telephony and IPTV running as part of the Triple-Play system. Logic will tell you that to use IP, it needs to jack into the router). If DETV's IPTV system can deliver decent quality streaming video over stimix 1M, why can't the TM-IPTV system?

Yes, all these quest for TM-IPTV is because Astro don't want to give me BBC Channels.

And on that, a suggestion to Astro: DETV's on-demand system uses Ethernet to stream programs to the user. The server will only stream the program to the user and that user alone only when requested. This is the real definition for on-demand. Try to migrate your AOD system over to that, it'll save you satellite bandwidth that you can use to carry more channels. After all, all the latest decoders already have Ethernet port. And while at it, migrate SD to DVB-S2 so PQ can improve. You've pulled off mass decoder change before, do it again.
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Astro always has channels which wl listen to them, BBC has standards of its own it wont bow to Astro so it went off !Kampus Astro is politics who cares what decorder they use !
I too have the same question if DETV can stream why cant TMIPTV ? Maybe some experts here can shed some light ! hmm.gif

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Mar 10 2010, 11:08 AM)
As I said before, I dun care about PQ. I just want my BBC shows. And if DETV's PQ is quite good at 1M, I dun see how TM's can be that bad at 1M.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-RCS - It can be done.

Also, Astro claims that their decoder can send back viewer statistics- that's how they decide that BBC has "few people" watching and axe the channel (for some reason tho, suddenly I remember an old Square One TV Mathnet episode when they told me that).
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If that claim is true half of Astro channels should have gone by now !! rclxm9.gif Granada was put in kicking out BBCE to sell Metro package with Bio !

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Mar 10 2010, 12:14 PM)
Just wait end of this month for TM IPTV launching, maybe you'll get better idea what the're offering. Just pray they will provide 'lite' version to stimix user as well.

I doubt it, if you watch press conference during byond launching day, the CEO said its just 1 way. DVB-RCS need 2-way.
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Is TM launching IPTV end of the month ? Only KL or nationwide ? :hmm:Heard or read nothing about it so far ! BTW just upgraded to 1mbps sad to say it stinks ! rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Mar 11 2010, 11:31 AM)
i've tried this method too.. but it wont works.. donno why.. maybe my old composite cable is very thin one? (not using the one that supplied with byond decoder)
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Dont change cables it wont work .You cant change the feed, we are at their mercy we take it or leave it we have put up about 15 years now so wat the heck ! Do we have another choice ?! mad.gif doh.gif I bet they wld never roll back just watch bcos they are a bunch of genious people !

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Now see closely you guys wl discover HBO HD stinks ! Check it out closely hmm.gif vmad.gif HD is perfect for NGC. SD after zooming all Indian channels are like shit ! whistling.gif

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QUOTE(neb @ Mar 12 2010, 06:10 PM)
from astro reply, it seems that astro are sticking to their guns, zoom is here to stay forever doh.gif
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Astro rules no such thing as roll back afterall in thier words it is done to enhance ,,,, blah ! Blah ! Take note astro is HIGH DEFINITION:furious:
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QUOTE(wolve @ Mar 12 2010, 09:41 PM)
"Ahmad Mustaza Ismail, Director of Customer Service said that in the meantime, Astro will look into the feasibility of providing more options for its customers. "

What options? Things were fine and dandy before! The stretch option was just sitting pretty in the settings menu and now it's gone. Because it doesn't comply with international broadcast standards? Enlighten me please, Astro.
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Astro treats us like ediots sikit sikit they talk .... like international broadcasts standards............., this is part of satelite broadcasting..... is it only Malaysia uses satelite and is Astro the sole satelite operator in the world ? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Mar 12 2010, 11:12 PM)
i think most people pissed because in this time of crisis, they choose to watch zoom rather than pillar box....

i suggest people to ease yourself into watching pillarbox temporarily untill this matter is sorted out and by time, you will find out that its not soo bad..

zoom is a complete no no though.. dont ever do that..
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briefly said ! well said !! leave it for a while guys icon_rolleyes.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sn4 @ Mar 13 2010, 09:30 AM)
i just cant stand pillarbox......Grrr
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No choice contract signed next month we are paying, we are at their mercy. Saw how the cunning plan works ? Only way to teach them get about 50000 to terminate sports package right away, confirmed they wld bang bbbbs brows.gif rclxm9.gif Pls refer The Star on the article saying the Beyond advert shown on Tv and Cinemas is actaully Not Real !! Sillly perhaps !Or maybe made based on international standards ! rclxm9.gif


Added on March 13, 2010, 10:34 ameyond reality
WHAT'S THE BIG IDEA?
By HAFIDZ MAHPAR


WHEN you watch a horror movie, sometimes you may feel like screaming to the characters: “Get the hell out of there!”

The same thought crosses my mind when I watch the Astro

B.yond TV commercial, now playing regularly on Astro and in cinemas.


A shot of the Astro B.yond commercial featuring a scene where a submarine emerges from the ground in a suburban neighbourhood.

Would you still sit in your living room reading the newspaper if you notice a growling cheetah barely a leap away?

If your son is lying on the lawn making a window with his fingers and a fire-breather blows a ball of fire at him, would he continue to lie there waiting to be barbecued?

If your two eldest daughters are playing by the pool and a Chevy Camaro, flipping through the air, nearly crash into them, would they continue giggling? Would they enjoy seeing a motorcyclist crashing through your house’s glass door before she proceeds to launch nasty-looking missiles from her state-of-the-art motorcycle?

Meanwhile, your little daughter is riding her tricycle close to the road, apparently with no one watching her.

Maybe you don’t think passing cars are a threat, but wouldn’t you be just a little worried when a submarine emerges from underground, cracks open the road right in front of your daughter and sends chunks of granite and dust flying?

When a long-necked dinosaur blows its hot breath on your whole family, would you and your loved ones stand happily on the same spot, thinking: “Hey, it’s probably just a herbivore”?

You know what I’d tell your family in that situation? RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Flee like that family from the movie Poltergeist, check into a hotel, and throw out the TV set, where all these scary things seem to emanate from.

Creating fantasy is fine, but the world of imagination created should still have some logic. However, in the B.yond ad, there is a lot of unrelated elements thrown haphazardly together ­- from goalkeeper to Native American on horseback - and the family at the centre of the madness, for the most part, does not react like a normal family would.

Contrary to what the commercial’s voice-over says, this is not real.

Any creative could come up with the hackneyed premise of having elements from TV shows appearing live in front of the viewers. We’ve seen this in movies and music videos. The trick is to transform that premise into something fresh.

A lot of hard work has clearly gone in at the post-production stage. But just like Astro’s high-definition package take-up will depend on good content being available, technical achievement alone will not make an advertisement great. The commercial has an advantage of high frequency of airing and an unusually-long running time of 2½ minutes, but it has no real emotional pull.

There was a time not so long ago when many thought traditional hand-drawn animation was passe with the huge commercial success of Pixar’s CGI animated films, but Disney’s The Princess and The Frog changed that. More than technology, it’s the content that makes a difference.

I hope this does not jump-start agencies into placing more importance on technical execution rather than on ideas.

● Associate editor Hafidz Mahpar is so backward in technology that he still uses a cassette tape recorder when conducting interviews.


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QUOTE(neb @ Mar 14 2010, 02:23 AM)
I think everyone with byond HD box  will be tuning to HD channels for world cup matches
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Astro wld stick to pillar box cos thats the best way to hide thier poor pirated VCD video quality rclxm9.gif I wld trust them no more cos they are good at cheating and misleading the public. Wait and see very soon they wld show upscaled HD. For that they wld come with another story! Look at the sound increase between SD and HD what expaination for that ?Ask the technical team and engineers of Astro to come out for a public debate we wld send our experts there to .... them up . Dont make changes and hide behind lets talk and give your a piece of our mind vmad.gif
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Imagining Asto's reply ......................................................We have noted that beyond subscribers have raised the issue of upscaled F1 on ESPn. Pls be advised that Asto follows strict international standards of broadcasting and upscaling content is part of satelite broadcasting.We wish to add that Asto is proud to be the first to bring upscaled F1. We wld from time to time add more upscaled HD channels............................. rclxm9.gif


Added on March 14, 2010, 10:56 am
QUOTE(king_kenny @ Mar 14 2010, 07:25 AM)
I mentioned earlier, thats theres no HD in F1 all over the world,,
even somebody said OZ got HD in F1, but actually not,, its an upscaling one,,
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Pls cofirm its upscaled and we must make Astro say it then only we can take furteher action by reporting it. My worst irritation is the volume level when u switch from SD to HD I wonder what f... standard is Asto talking about.

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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 14 2010, 04:25 PM)
the general malaysian public maybe easily fooled but not us, low yat members laugh.gif
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Start a petition right away we wl all sign and submit to MMC complaining we have been misled. Call Sin Chiew to highlight the matter I am sure they wl do it cos this is cheating. :angry:Call them for a press conference and let us hear what c... they want to talk now .... vmad.gif

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Upscaling SD to HD is a common practice from what I know but most TV stations acknowledge that they are screening upscaled content not like our friend misleading the public to fall for Beyond ! I suspected long ago except for NGC and History all the other HD channels did not carry full HD content but upscaled content instead. Very soon by upscaling they wl be full HD in the region . At last Beyond was NOT real anyway,how sad !!:(

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