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ar188
post Jan 23 2010, 11:06 PM

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which model? yes, it;'s super irritating.. sorry to hear that...
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 10:30 PM)
IMHO, black level cannot replicate the awesomeness of large screen effect.. tongue.gif

with normal 42-50inch plasma you are still reminded you watching TV.. of course that's why anfielddude got a huge 60incher


Added on January 23, 2010, 10:30 pm

what dead pixel??  hmm.gif
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In DLP, if one of the micro mirrors become stuck, u get a dead pixel.
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 11:06 PM)
which model? yes, it;'s super irritating.. sorry to hear that...
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2 or 3 generation before yours

but I dont disagree that bigger screen size is better. 50in plasma is not quite there. 60in is too darn expensive sad.gif


Added on January 23, 2010, 11:15 pm
QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 23 2010, 11:06 PM)
In DLP, if one of the micro mirrors become stuck, u get a dead pixel.
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I didnt know that DLP can suffer from "dead pixel" too sad.gif


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post Jan 23 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 23 2010, 11:14 PM)
2 or 3 generation before yours

but I dont disagree that bigger screen size is better. 50in plasma is not quite there. 60in is too darn expensive sad.gif


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I didnt know that DLP can suffer from "dead pixel" too  sad.gif
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I think quite rare.. their QC should be very good.. manufacturer would reject the chip before using them?
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 11:17 PM)
I think quite rare.. their QC should be very good.. manufacturer would reject the chip before using them?
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Mostly, its caught in QC as the mirrors become stuck during early hours (Early Failure Rate), however, it is possible that due to the wafer fab process that during the manufacturing there is a defect that causes the mirror to be unable to move. As *I has all the patents on micro mirrors (DLP), we all know who to blame. Although, there are reportedly new players coming.
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post Jan 24 2010, 01:49 AM

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post Jan 24 2010, 04:54 PM

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anybody here know where I can get the cheapest then? The cheapest I have got is RM13,000. Anywhere else cheaper?
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post Jan 24 2010, 05:06 PM

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Desa HT Kepong. Once you get kuro, you won't look at other tv. biggrin.gif


Added on January 24, 2010, 5:11 pmSomeone got it @ 12k (cash price). You can bargain for a lower price.

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post Jan 24 2010, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 24 2010, 06:06 PM)
Desa HT Kepong. Once you get kuro, you won't look at other tv. biggrin.gif


Added on January 24, 2010, 5:11 pmSomeone got it @ 12k (cash price). You can bargain for a lower price.
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post Jan 24 2010, 05:39 PM

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post Jan 24 2010, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(C.T. Seong @ Jan 24 2010, 05:35 PM)
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CT you can sell at cheaper price?
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post Jan 24 2010, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 24 2010, 07:45 PM)
CT you can sell at cheaper price?
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below 10k ? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 08:26 AM

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AFAIK, Desa offers the lowest. It is well below RM12K. Of course, aint below RM10K lah laugh.gif .
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post Jan 25 2010, 02:00 PM

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reading more details on the new 3D glasses technology, it may require a transmitter from the TV to control the active shutter on the glasses.. (hence why pana giving away 2 glasses with their new 3D TVs, not to mention HDMI 1.4 required for FULLHD 3D)... if that is the case, I think not very attractive to spend so much (5figures) on old TV models liao..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 25 2010, 02:00 PM)
reading more details on the new 3D glasses technology, it may require a transmitter from the TV to control the active shutter on the glasses.. (hence why pana giving away 2 glasses with their new 3D TVs, not to mention HDMI 1.4 required for FULLHD 3D)... if that is the case, I think not very attractive to spend so much (5figures) on old TV models liao..
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If 3D excites u, and u can wait, then I think u shd.

In my opinion, we will see 3D fully mature in 2-3yrs time. End Q3/Q4 2010 there are some titles being planned for 3D release, they will be the beta kind of releases. Also the studios will take time to adopt. Why? The need to ensure that this investment is something that will be around for at least 5yrs, else the ROI is not there. See how long it took for BD to at least reach where it has today...However, I think 3D excites a lot of people, so the hype is there. We will see. 2011 is the real test.

Panny only has 1 display that will support 3D in 2010, Sammy more. The rest of the manufacturers are embracing it, but have not really announced the displays that will support it en mass.

I am waiting for the projector guys to make the 2010 announcements. I also expect more changes to the HDMI specs before the 3D matures.


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post Jan 25 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 25 2010, 02:35 PM)
If 3D excites u, and u can wait, then I think u shd.

In my opinion, we will see 3D fully mature in 2-3yrs time. End Q3/Q4 2010 there are some titles being planned for 3D release, they will be the beta kind of releases. Also the studios will take time to adopt. Why? The need to ensure that this investment is something that will be around for at least 5yrs, else the ROI is not there. See how long it took for BD to at least reach where it has today...However, I think 3D excites a lot of people, so the hype is there. We will see. 2011 is the real test.

Panny only has 1 display that will support 3D in 2010, Sammy more. The rest of the manufacturers are embracing it, but have not really announced the displays that will support it en mass.

I am waiting for the projector guys to make the 2010 announcements. I also expect more changes to the HDMI specs before the 3D matures.
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2010 will be quite an interesting year as I think most of these giants will try to dish out their 3D panels. Hopefully, those big studios will embrace it as well. I shall adopt 'wait and see' stance for now. I am keen on 3D FHD pj.
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post Jan 25 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 25 2010, 02:35 PM)
If 3D excites u, and u can wait, then I think u shd.

In my opinion, we will see 3D fully mature in 2-3yrs time. End Q3/Q4 2010 there are some titles being planned for 3D release, they will be the beta kind of releases. Also the studios will take time to adopt. Why? The need to ensure that this investment is something that will be around for at least 5yrs, else the ROI is not there. See how long it took for BD to at least reach where it has today...However, I think 3D excites a lot of people, so the hype is there. We will see. 2011 is the real test.

Panny only has 1 display that will support 3D in 2010, Sammy more. The rest of the manufacturers are embracing it, but have not really announced the displays that will support it en mass.

I am waiting for the projector guys to make the 2010 announcements. I also expect more changes to the HDMI specs before the 3D matures.
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it's coming the specs are just finalized, you don't need to wait 2-3years to mature... it's just an extension of AVC codec.. and the rest is add-on hardware like apeture glasses amd HDMI 1.4...

as for the reference of BD, well I bought I started buying 2008, it didn't take long to go from HDMI 1.0 to HDMI 1.3.. or BD x1 to BD x8.. or BD profile 1.0 to BD profile 2.0..

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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Jan 25 2010, 04:11 PM)
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Bro how much did you pay for your KRP500? 11.5k?
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post Jan 25 2010, 06:31 PM

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another thing to ponder is will your whole HDMI supply chain (amp/BDplayer/what not) be compromised and stuck at 1.3 profile for the next 5years, if have to use the TV for 5 years due to ROI again due to high investment cost?

I'm not sure if everything drops to the lowest version for HDMI? anyone can confirm?

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