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 Is Pioneer KRP500 worth it?, need advice

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post Jan 23 2010, 05:23 PM

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no HDMI 1.4 how? tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2010, 10:30 PM

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IMHO, black level cannot replicate the awesomeness of large screen effect.. tongue.gif

with normal 42-50inch plasma you are still reminded you watching TV.. of course that's why anfielddude got a huge 60incher


Added on January 23, 2010, 10:30 pm
QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 23 2010, 10:29 PM)
Projectors seems better bang for the buck but it has its own disadvantages too. Need total light control. Have to worry about lamp failure and dimming with age. More prone to dead pixels, and you really need a dedicated room for it
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what dead pixel?? hmm.gif

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post Jan 23 2010, 10:37 PM

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got ar? tongue.gif

never heard of them on current projectors.. tongue.gif

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post Jan 23 2010, 10:42 PM

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3years old.. LCD.. 720p.. no stuck wor..

why would current one get stuck when previous gen don't have this problem..

if you saying LCD Tv got stuck pixel, that's also very rare now..
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post Jan 23 2010, 10:56 PM

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post Jan 23 2010, 11:06 PM

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which model? yes, it;'s super irritating.. sorry to hear that...
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 23 2010, 11:14 PM)
2 or 3 generation before yours

but I dont disagree that bigger screen size is better. 50in plasma is not quite there. 60in is too darn expensive sad.gif


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I didnt know that DLP can suffer from "dead pixel" too  sad.gif
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I think quite rare.. their QC should be very good.. manufacturer would reject the chip before using them?
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post Jan 24 2010, 05:39 PM

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post Jan 24 2010, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 24 2010, 07:45 PM)
CT you can sell at cheaper price?
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below 10k ? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 02:00 PM

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reading more details on the new 3D glasses technology, it may require a transmitter from the TV to control the active shutter on the glasses.. (hence why pana giving away 2 glasses with their new 3D TVs, not to mention HDMI 1.4 required for FULLHD 3D)... if that is the case, I think not very attractive to spend so much (5figures) on old TV models liao..
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post Jan 25 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 25 2010, 02:35 PM)
If 3D excites u, and u can wait, then I think u shd.

In my opinion, we will see 3D fully mature in 2-3yrs time. End Q3/Q4 2010 there are some titles being planned for 3D release, they will be the beta kind of releases. Also the studios will take time to adopt. Why? The need to ensure that this investment is something that will be around for at least 5yrs, else the ROI is not there. See how long it took for BD to at least reach where it has today...However, I think 3D excites a lot of people, so the hype is there. We will see. 2011 is the real test.

Panny only has 1 display that will support 3D in 2010, Sammy more. The rest of the manufacturers are embracing it, but have not really announced the displays that will support it en mass.

I am waiting for the projector guys to make the 2010 announcements. I also expect more changes to the HDMI specs before the 3D matures.
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it's coming the specs are just finalized, you don't need to wait 2-3years to mature... it's just an extension of AVC codec.. and the rest is add-on hardware like apeture glasses amd HDMI 1.4...

as for the reference of BD, well I bought I started buying 2008, it didn't take long to go from HDMI 1.0 to HDMI 1.3.. or BD x1 to BD x8.. or BD profile 1.0 to BD profile 2.0..

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post Jan 25 2010, 06:31 PM

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another thing to ponder is will your whole HDMI supply chain (amp/BDplayer/what not) be compromised and stuck at 1.3 profile for the next 5years, if have to use the TV for 5 years due to ROI again due to high investment cost?

I'm not sure if everything drops to the lowest version for HDMI? anyone can confirm?
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post Jan 25 2010, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 25 2010, 06:32 PM)
Since this Kuro is for the PQ and not many ppl would look for 3D performance (like me), Kuro is still a good buy for the elites.
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if you can upgrade TV every 2-3 years, I don't see why not.. go get it.. thumbup.gif (I doubt 3years time KRP-500 will be so hot.. like how 428 was great in 2007 biggrin.gif )

for me, buy low-middle range and change every 2-3years.. biggrin.gif sorry la.. poor fellas is like this wan.. sad.gif
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post Jan 25 2010, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 25 2010, 06:39 PM)
I won't spend 12k for a 50" tv lor... too pricey for me liao sweat.gif
12k for a 63" then it's different story la. TV is getting cheaper and cheaper every year, don't want to throw money into sea.

This statement does not applies to elites.  biggrin.gif
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elites buy new Kuro (or it's replacement model, top of the range Series) every 2years?? hmm.gif

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post Jan 25 2010, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 25 2010, 07:13 PM)
I guess u're right.

Maybe ur strategy of AV upgrade is the correct one.

Too late for me to turn back. No upgrade at least for the next 5yrs for me, so I'll just have to be happy with what I have and gloat at people like u for always getting the latest stuff!
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I think yours abit different, you choose 60incher.. (if not mistaken panny still sell older 60incher series even if the newer ones like 42-50 are being replaced right?) so maybe 2years time your Kuro 60 still considered (mid high end) among 60inch sold in local market.. (but maybe prices for these bigger sizes will tumble more, am not sure??)

however, 50" is more common... so maybe the 500A will be obsolete sooner.. anyway my remarks was more "optimized" for 42- 50inch TV.. cos the models change much faster and every change brings more features and cheaper price.. (with respect to how 42inch top range 10k model 3years ago is probably beaten by a 5-6k TV now)


(besides you won't be gloating at me getting a newer 60incher than yours.. biggrin.gif I'm sure it's still pricey, relative to 42-50inchers, even in 2years later.. )

again poor fellas like me cannot venture out of the cost effective mass market product range.. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 26 2010, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 26 2010, 10:44 AM)
Vizio 70" tv??

like the 70" but never heard of vizio.... wat co. is this again? whistling.gif
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Vizio famous in US leh.. in few years become leader in TV market in US..
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:06 AM)
sounds like crap then tongue.gif
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you won't be saying that if they have it here and they were selling it at 60% of equivalent feature LCD brands.. local dimming LED etc.. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:20 AM)
sorry hehe... me katak bawah tempurung tongue.gif
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say is katak but got 950 samsung and submersive wor.. notworthy.gif

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post Jan 26 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jan 26 2010, 11:24 AM)
i guess i mustn't say they're crap coz I'm samsung user & samsung is like vizio here in Asia... cheap alternatives for big screens whistling.gif
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but submersive is like aston or bentley of subs wor.. biggrin.gif so you got both worlds.. biggrin.gif

 

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