Well, Chaos SMs (which is the Chaos army that is always shown in DoW (there is army with only demons in the TT for example)) is more a less a mirror of the normal SM anyway, not sure exactly what you expected?

"At least" they put some more colourful units like the Juggernauts and didnt put stuff like the "Chaos ASMs" like (cant remember the name right now, the flying ones) which are copy paste ASMs.
Maybe the abilities or upgrades of each units will help separate them a bit of the normal SMs ones.

Yar, I understand what you mean, just that most of the stuff you named is considered "elite" or rare troops, the bulk is either full of Chaos SMs or basic demons (like the Blooletters, Daemonettes, Uncleans etc.).

They could have put more in the list, I agree, but then the others army who have complained they didnt get as many new or "cool" units (Eldars have way more Aspect warriors types than that in the story for example, SMs have stuff like the Vindicators, veterans squads etc, Tyranids and Orks can have almost anything you want since you can justify almost anyting with their background etc.).

I think they are tied up by the numbers of units each army can have and they can't really make a Chaos Army without basic Chaos SMs for example (though they could have done without the Cultists... but that means no cheap units like scouts maybe)

What I was trying to say is that I am personally not "surprised" by that list if it's confirmed, I totally agree I wish Relic was a bit more imaginative but I did not expected it.

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Jan 31 2010, 06:49 PM

Yar, I always felt these two were quite out of scope for the scale of it, dreadnought being the "max" in my opinion.

Kinda like how a Land Raider or a Baneblade would do....

The Heretics are at least a bit different from the Cultists from DOW1, their gameplay seems more interesting than cheap scout meat shield I thought it would be.

The rest is more "normal", Havoc having rate of fire getting faster and faster after each kill sounds fun if you can get them to live for a while

99rmb is alright, not too cheap, not too expensive.

For me it will depends on the single player content since I dont play online anyway.

Not sure I can resist though....

Sounds like DOW1 campain again....


Meh, I even put Spoiler for people who have not played DoW1 campain

IT'S CAPTAIN THUL... wait... no... harder for him

I still put 10 kopecks on the librarian being the traitor but I hope I will be surprised, that would be quite lame otherwise

And trained psykers don't get corrupted, they just kick asses

Seems pricing is gonna be around 30usd from what I can see on the web, that seems "normal" for xpac nowadays.
Think I will wait a lil to hear some reviews but it I hear some good stuff for the single player I think I will get it quickly.

Meh, I would not really complain about this, I liked the DOW2 for the single campain, would not mind more of it. I don't mind forking money if the quality is there (that's an important IF I admit )

Just that the IG would actually not fit very well for the scale of DoW2, they are just individually too weak, even 10 man squads guards again 3-4 marines would be a pure massacres according to the background. Making squads of bigger size then 10-12 would be both too bulky to play efficiently (good luck finding cover for such huge squad) and not very fun.

Personally I am looking forward for Chaos Rising, hopefully the campaign is good. I will try to wait few days to wait for use reviews but might be too tempted to wait, see how it goes

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Feb 11 2010, 05:06 PM

Now thats a huge mace

Can definitely see he is there to talk philosophy and make flowers compositions....

Today I got some email from THQ about Chaos Rising.

In it there is this link to ebgames.com wehre they sell it.

And in the descriptions I saw:

Chaos Corruption Mechanic – New single player mechanic allows you to equip incredibly powerful equipment that corrupts your squad and will guide the story towards or away from the corrupting influence of Chaos

Now that sounds interesting for single play, might also explain the "you will have one of your marines going chaos" thinggy they hinted had.
That even hint at slightly different campaign process if you go "Chaos way" or "Good way" which would be very sweet.

On the other hand I don't believe much this kind of "advertisements" but that's something I didnt read about this before

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Feb 13 2010, 11:25 AM

Hum ok then, I didnt see that thing

Even the Great Unclean one abilities are not that fun or exciting for T3.
Expected more corruption or disease-ing kind of stuff.

Still look badass even though I am still really dubious that he should be in a game of this scale at all.

I like Tzeentch and the face of the 2 cultists in the last panel

And I did pre-order it

Ugh... DoW2 was actually my first Steam AND GFWL game... man that was a pain of an install with both to get and then update (plus creation of both accounts...)

Hopefully this time its gonna be better

I wish we could get a pre-load for CR though

But it's getting late for one now

And really no pre-loading =S

Don't think it's gonna be too huge to download though, DoW2 itself is only 4Gb

Does the download starts automatically?

I mean, until yesterday I had the "Chaos Rising - Not released yet" under the Steam list.
But you guys are saying that it will disappear and Steam will automatically start downloading it as a patch to DoW2 without you having to click anywhere?

I am asking because if like that I just need to ask wife to start my desktop since Steam starts with windows.
Having to explain to her where to click otherwise would be much tougher

I knew I should have worked from home today...

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Mar 11 2010, 09:16 AM

Hopefully it's downloading for me right now back at home...
It's like a 50/50 though

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Mar 11 2010, 02:58 PM

Lol Cheese, that SS is quite funny, for a second I thought "well, it could works for scout to use some tyranids costume/armor to hide.... then realized how stupid it would be (Especially seeing that only Cyrus wears it with the rest of the scouts still running around in normal armors)

How well, I will see when I reach home if everything started downloading fine with wifey booted the computer this morning, somehow I doubt no click somewhere from my side will be needed but we will see.

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Mar 11 2010, 03:20 PM

Yar yar, I agree it's a bit sad from a QA Point of view, especially there it seems to be quite a big issue.

Well, I will just have to see when i can play, hopefully no huge bugs, can't wait to start again with the squads I prepared for the solo campaign.

Edit: Damn, after checking DoW Dev blog
Seems that since I am in China I will only get it available on Steam tomorrow at 5am local time >_<

Guess Msia was included with AU/NZ?

This post has been edited by Gormaz: Mar 11 2010, 03:43 PM