just run through ur whole songs collection 1 by 1 and observe at which song it hang...
suspected u have corrupted mem card issue on some of your songs...

just do as told... ppl having multiple files corrupted once the mem card make problem...
if u really have too many songs to play then just run the file manager and move all those folder around and u sure will hang the file manager as well if ur mem card do have corrupted files...

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Added on January 25, 2010, 12:04 ami've seeing the actual 5800xm with corrupted mem card before and the whole images/songs/ring tones all can't be play/open but still with the files around (still can be see by the file manager but cant access to it at all)... my opinion the mem card easily corrupted if u connect ur phone through usb as mass storage... i've now using the bt as for all files transfer since 2 months ago... and to tell u the good news none of my mem card files corrupted till now no matter how many images/songs i have transfer to it and all those mods also not making any defect on the card as well... so i near to draw a conclusion it is the mass storage method confirmed will risking to corrupted the card... not sure about the pc suite option though...

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jan 25 2010, 12:04 AM

not the initial state lah... i have my ideal sdcard clone in my pc then i will full format the sdcard then hard reset the phone then reboot n connect as mass storage n transfer the clone from pc to the card... afterward all later addon files will utilise the bt only loh... dont tell me u will need to transfer a few gig of data daily eh? for me i just updating the full mfm weekly for about 200mb and it take about 30mins through the bt connectio n i think i can live with that...

maxis network error?? try borrow someone phone to verify lah... never heard this error before... if u delete all those network setting also it wont affect the sp network mah...

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Added on January 25, 2010, 12:48 amhello brother u hari hari chage ur songs ah?? our 8gb card how many more songs u can load if u already have the old collections? if u realy want to copy huge data then mah let the bt run all time lah or overnight... 1 hour u can get about 400mb liao mah... or u wanna risk a reformat

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jan 25 2010, 12:48 AM

yup... fullpack with east/west malaysia topo

that what i try to said the choice is yours...

1. usb mass storage => high risk of corruption
2. usb pc suite => medium risk of corruption
3. bt transfer => low risk of corruption (non so far)
4. wifi transfer => low risk of corruption (need proper apps setup)

in your network setting u choose gsm or dual? seeing when set dual the phone will use 3g as default n if 3g failed it will use gsm... when ur area 3g is weak then the phone will switch back n ford on the network...

good luck on u then...
i still not sure apa class of my sd since bought never really take it out b4
but heard that highier class suppose better eh since it can do more n faster... how about class6 8gb sd on 5800xm??? anyone got that install n share some info??

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Added on January 25, 2010, 1:24 amFP have the info... depend on ppl, someone can get extra 10mb free up by following the guide.... mine i get 4.8mb by deleting the FOTA thingie

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jan 25 2010, 01:24 AM

Good night everyone... enjoy with ur tube

none of the mfm papago map can be use for the 5800 papago vr1, the 5800 papago apps only have it's build in taiwan maps.
if those mfm can be use u think ppl still be soo low profile about the papago apps for 5800?? papago apps for 5800 have those fancy POI/Turn preview windows which are far more advance then garmin, if it's compatible with those provided mfm i'm sure all ppls will switch to papago instead of garmin or ovi maps

papago been swap into many different company... so all its maps are not compatiple to each other
so far the mfm maps for the papago are specify for the actual papago devices and not for the symbian papago vr1.
so u can't use those maps unless u have those mention out papage devices...

theory time for the mystery of gps:

for us to getting the first gps location fix, there are 3 requirement need to be fulfill:
1. the time the message was sent
2. precise orbital information (the ephemeris)
3. the general system health and rough orbits of all GPS satellites (the almanac).

to simplyfy its meaning:
1. the time on ur devices and the time of the satelite
2. the satelite actual time data (need to keep the devices syn with the satelite)
3. the satelite orbits location at certain time (how many satelite will possible visible by the devices)

GPS fix steps:

1. during the cold gps device startup (devices reboot), the phone dont have all 3 data and it will try to scan through all 32 gps satelite signal signature (that's why an open space needed to let the phone detected as many satelite as possible)

2. the phone then will download all those available satelite signal and do calculation (no.2), this is where the a-gps come in handy where if u let it connect to our sp 3g then the phone will just send a msg to the sp 3g tower and request the (no. 2) data, where all those 3g tower will report it's location to the nokia/google supl server and download the rough location on the gps fix then the tower will send this (no. 2) data back to our phone.

3. if no a-gps then the phone will have to download those (no.2) data manually (mean very slow) and i can tell for those a few bytes satelite data will need to take about 10mins with the satelite signal strengh about full (mean if u open the garmin satelite status those bar need to hit about full bar) if the satelite signal strengh are lower (mean less then full bar) then the signal data accuiring will take up 15mins~30mins to be downloaded (same a few bytes data). for ~4kb we can get all 32 satelite (no.2) data.

4. once the (no.2) data downloaded the signal bar will turn to solid (a fix already capture) and the phone already can syn with the satelite.

5. remember all those satelite signal will need to collect 1 by 1 (although run at parellel) if no a-gps enable.

6. if got a-gps then ALL 32 satelite (no.2) data will be provide by the supl server (~4kb) and ur phone will able to lock every satelite that come in view.

those (no.2) data wont be delete as long as ur phone not reboot. and everytime u open the gps apps the same data will be use back and the phone only do minor calculation and can get the fix, this wont work out if u reopen after a few hours because the satelite previously lock already out of sigh (all satelite orbiting very fast)

so now u know where although we seen got a FULL BAR for the satelite strengh but still cant get a fast fix, it's because the satelite manual downloading through the gps chip are VERY SLOW (a few bytes will need ~10mins to be completed).

If u wanna try to test the theory, just do below steps to verify your gps chip power

DO NOT MOVE AROUND WHEN U DO THIS!!

1. shutdown ur phone
2. reboot the phone
3. go to an open space
4. disable the a-gps and network under the LOCATIONS apps
5. run ur garmin
6. go into the the satelite status view screen (in garmin)
7. start ur timer and observe those FULL BAR satelite (strong signal), at least 4 satelite needed for garmin to start calculating minimum requirement
8. wait till the bar turn to solid (anyone of it)
9. stop ur timer

i will sure u will get ~10mins

sometimes u lucky u might get a faster time that's because i'm not sure a reboot will 'confirmed" deleted the satelite cache (no.2) data or not. but for a cold start i can make sure u will able to lock the gps in ~10mins for a single satelite (the signal strengh must be high).

hope this able to clear some mist on the gps with/without a-gps

thanks for pinning it at the FP, at least now ppls have a rough idea on how to BENCHMARKING their gps chip quality... but the reality is most of the nokia phone build with Texas Instrument Navilink chip so i dont think the gps will vary that must other then nokia improve their gps hardware

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Added on January 26, 2010, 1:08 amgood night everyone... enjoy ur tube tonight

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jan 26 2010, 01:08 AM

just install the apps will do loh.. default 5800 don't have stop watch included...

who's is ur so call "one ppl"??? the phone is a new phone or 2nd hand?
if it's new phone then rm940 about there loh... if it's 2nd hand then u been con con con connnn~~~

itu light sensor control just simply the LCD brighness adjustment lah... then lower u set it (lower to the bar) then less brighness u get for ur LCD and harder to look and of cause it save more power

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Added on January 26, 2010, 3:38 pmwah... garage sale also got NEW PHONE to sell... betul keh??

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jan 26 2010, 03:38 PM

not till i found others model that can match those value for $$ and "ideal" hardware combination

if sim card changed how u gonna know his/her phone no. and who u gonna send the sms

This post has been edited by sklchan: Jan 26 2010, 10:48 PM

funny lol!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MdJ0YvlUqU

did anyone notice the default file manager schedule backup option been fixed on this v40?? previously it wont work on the v31...
Now i get all my backup daily at 3am...