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cheahcw2003
post Jul 23 2011, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 23 2011, 10:17 AM)
You cannot compare NAV directly between funds as it's not exactly direct apple-to-apple comparison.
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100% agree, many ppl misunderstood tge unit trust concept. to put it in a simple way, The new fund could be launched at the price of rm0.25, rm0.50, rm1.00 or even rm2.00 per unit. But it doesn't mean that the rm0.25 one is better buy than rm1.00.

Many agents do not explain the truth to their clients. Are they just lazy or do not have knowledge on it?
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post Jul 26 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(stevo @ Jul 26 2011, 01:43 PM)
But looking at the launch date. Islamic Strategic Bond Fund was launched later than Islamic Infrastructure Bond Fund?


Added on July 26, 2011, 1:46 pmIslamic Infrastructure Bond launch date is 16 Nov 2010
Islamic Strategic Bond launch date is 30 Dec 2010

Got this from the website.
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yes u r right, Public Islamic Strategic Bond Fund is newer than P Islamic strategic bond fund, less than 1 year.
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post Jul 28 2011, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 27 2011, 04:27 PM)
Any PB Mutual fund agent client that had bought China Select fund here?

Just curious and want to know how the client is doing now
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for the fund performance, why not just check the perforance chart available in the PM website, or just go to tge independent morningstar.com website, most of the agents need to refer to the same charts b4 answering u the questions.
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post Jul 29 2011, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Onlinemaniac @ Jul 29 2011, 07:29 AM)
We can invest in overseas mutual fund? How to do that?
I only have my publicmutualonline account.

Pls be guided. Thanks!
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do u meant
1) invest in a fund that run and managed by a mutual fund company that registered outside Malaysia like franklin templeton or
2) invest in a local mutual fund company that have funds in foreign equity exposures?

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post Jul 30 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Jul 30 2011, 02:12 PM)
@wongmungkeong
are you sure the same fund different agent is also a same type, not EPF and cash?

If both are cash type, how to register another account for the same fund?
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u can buy the same fund via 10 agents park under 10 diferent accounts.
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post Jul 31 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Jul 30 2011, 10:22 PM)
@cheahcw2003 & wongmunkeong

Thanks for the confirmation. So, we can register one fund one type under different agent! Then good.

There's always a gap knowledge between investor and agent/sifu, that why still need a lot of guidance. Stay tuned for more q!
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no problem. Each of us may hv diff point of views and thus this is what forum for. I am not an agent, so my point of views are solely from the investors propectives.
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post Aug 1 2011, 08:05 PM

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Funds not open for investment

 Public Islamic Bond Fund
 Public Islamic Opportunities Fund
 Public Islamic Sector Select Fund
 Public Bond Fund
 PB Islamic Bond Fund
 Public SmallCap Fund
 Public Global Balanced Fund
 Public Ittikal Fund
 Public Islamic Select Treasures Fund
 Public Islamic Balanced Fund
 Public Islamic Asia Balanced Fund

Updated as at end of July.

Sources : http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...SFE%3d&tabid=87
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post Aug 4 2011, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Aug 4 2011, 10:47 PM)
May I know what is '308'?
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last election that held on 8 March 2008
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post Aug 5 2011, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 5 2011, 09:31 AM)

n]OMG.......market down 20% as at 5/8/2011 10.55am.
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where got 20%? only less than 2%, if drop 20% I will jump in already

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post Aug 5 2011, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 5 2011, 12:51 PM)
where whwre 20% down!!?! which market? which vehicles?!  drool.gif

If our market - ceh.. good enuf to pickup a REIT or two only lar tongue.gif
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just discovered that what he meant is Market down 20points not 20%, if dropped 20% in the morning itself, many ppl will die....
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post Aug 7 2011, 12:28 AM

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PB Fixed Income Fund. Its Approved fund size - 1,015 millioms units, out of which RM905mil, or 856mil unit were subscribed as at 30 July 2011, which is 85% full. Those who want to subcribe in this fund, need to be quick, as those PM/PB bond/fixed income with good track records are sold out one by one.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 7 2011, 07:22 AM)
Over liquidity (QE2 + coming QE3?) and pent up, now chasing and buying spree?  tongue.gif
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US bond and T bills are downgraded, Asian bonds and sukuk are still safe as they are asset based.
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QUOTE(KyoX @ Aug 10 2011, 03:52 PM)
so we can buy smallcap from now on?
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It is reopen now, sure u can
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 10 2011, 06:56 PM)
actually how do they announce if a fund is closed of reopen? where can we find out the info? sometimes open sometimes closed it's confusing...
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It is listed in PM website under "news" portion. Agent usually have the 1st hand info from PM
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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Aug 10 2011, 08:40 PM)
I bought the Small Cap fund 2 months ago @ RM1.00 / unit
and its dropping sad.gif

Thinking to re-stock shortly biggrin.gif
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P Small cap never reached RM1, i have invested in Small cap since it was launched.
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 11 2011, 12:06 AM)
I don't see any news that are talking about the reopening of SmallCap fund for investment
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yes, the news not updated in the website yet.
u can get the updates from PM agents from this thread.
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QUOTE(milentechie @ Aug 11 2011, 04:54 PM)
Any comments on PB Asia Pacific Enterprises Fund?
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What comment r u expecting? Fund past performance are avail in the PM website and also morningstar website
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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Aug 13 2011, 06:19 PM)
What is SI/DDI mean?  sweat.gif
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standing instruction/ direct debit instruction
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Aug 14 2011, 01:29 AM)
SC is 5.5%.. But to be frank, agent commission really sarks to the bottom one.. Client invest RM1000, agent commission only around RM25. Zzz
Car petrol toll drink eat, finish off already la..
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well, for those who needs the agent service, 5.5% service seems reasonable, for those who do not need and do self research and know more than the agents, it will be too expensive to pay 5.5% SC. Ideally it shd be have 2 tiers SC, tier 1 with full service charge, tier 2 is say 1% SC, but it is very difficult to execute this idea.
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the so called 0.2% p.a. career benefit on the loaded funds i guess is from the 1.5% annual management fee.
some funds even charged up to 1.75% annual nanagement fee. PM charge high SC and annual management fees due to:-
a) leverage on they are the biggest private mutual fund company and have among the best managed funds in the country
b) security commision has the closed door policy to foreign fund managers, so less competitions.

i just take Franklin Templeton Fund Management as example. This company has > 100 years experience in fund management,
i) the service charge for their funds is just 2% for equity fund if u buy thru the right channel
ii) Annual management fee is lower, like 1.25% for equity fund and 0.5% for fixed income funds.
iii) most of their funds do not pay dividend, so the dividend will be accumulated and reflected in the fund price, thus investor do not need to pay tax, mutual fund need to pay 25% tax on the investment incomedeclared b4 distributing to the investors, and it already taxed once when the invested company declared the tax and paid to the mutual funds.

Many ppl do not see the signicant difference on this charges, one can calculate the difference in ROI, if assuming you invest RM10k in day 1, and after 10 years how much u will get if both fund generates annual returned of say 15%. Calculation, as comparison, therefore will be based on
a) initial SC of 5.5% vs 2%
b) Annual fee of 1.75% vs 1.25%
c) 25% tax on dividend declared vs No tax elements

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