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TSPolaris
post Jan 18 2010, 07:14 AM, updated 16y ago

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This is filed under [Exploratory Science],

The purpose, to create a new habitat on the moon for humans with oxygen, plant life, etc... practically recreating the experience here on earth. Not a mini dome here and there but making the whole moon have an atmosphere and self sustaining ecosystem.

Is it possible? Use your imagination and the available technology we have so far..
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post Jan 18 2010, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(Polaris @ Jan 18 2010, 07:14 AM)
This is filed under [Exploratory Science],

The purpose, to create a new habitat on the moon for humans with oxygen, plant life, etc... practically recreating the experience here on earth. Not a mini dome here and there but making the whole moon have an atmosphere and self sustaining ecosystem.

Is it possible? Use your imagination and the available technology we have so far..
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Terraforming cannot be performed on Moon because of micro gravity that cannot hold back the gas from escaping from Moon. Mars is a better candidate of terraforming into human habitable planet. However, the technical challenge is to increase the oxygen percentage like Earth. Another challenge will be the transportation between Earth and Mars, there will be several year once both planets get nearer to each other in orbit.
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post Jan 18 2010, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jan 18 2010, 07:24 AM)
Terraforming cannot be performed on Moon because of micro gravity that cannot hold back the gas from escaping from Moon. Mars is a better candidate of terraforming into human habitable planet. However, the technical challenge is to increase the oxygen percentage like Earth. Another challenge will be the transportation between Earth and Mars, there will be several year once both planets get nearer to each other in orbit.
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Thats doesn't sounds impossible for our earth to create a method to make that accomplish, but earth resource will be consume very very extreme
I mean the mars.
The transportation will be a heavy work, or work that can take up dont know how many 10 years, unless the entire world is popular with technology or at least adi have some technology
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post Jan 18 2010, 09:17 PM

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Terraforming will not be allowed or feasible because humanity's pointless population explosion will exhaust any discovered planets.

It better to focus on earth first and be at harmony with it.


Cheaper to cut and control humanity than to let the population grow until we need to terraform another planet to spread the disease known as humans.


If there are real intelligent civilization elsewhere who are at harmony with their own planets find out we're spreading the cancer of humanity, they will cut us down like how we cull rabbits.

The Human race have no right to exist beyond earth until they sort out domestic problems of being an earth cancer/parasite.

This journey of ego will not be allowed, if there are others observing us, because we are not ready yet.


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post Jan 19 2010, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(garytong @ Jan 18 2010, 09:17 PM)
Terraforming will not be allowed or feasible because humanity's pointless population explosion will exhaust any discovered planets.

It better to focus on earth first and be at harmony with it.
Cheaper to cut and control humanity than to let the population grow until we need to terraform another planet to spread the disease known as humans.
If there are real intelligent civilization elsewhere who are at harmony with their own planets find out we're spreading the cancer of humanity, they will cut us down like how we cull rabbits.

The Human race have no right to exist beyond earth until they sort out domestic problems of being an earth cancer/parasite.

This journey of ego will not be allowed, if there are others observing us, because we are not ready yet.
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LOL... when earth is dying soon, and you keep saying Human have to die because human have to right to live at Mars.. is it logical?

Just look at the facts, basically human have to migrate as human population is growing rapidly... unless there is a radical reduction on human population (e.g. war, natural disaster, world order to have 1 family 1 baby, disease, etc)


Added on January 19, 2010, 12:43 am
QUOTE(Polaris @ Jan 18 2010, 07:14 AM)
This is filed under [Exploratory Science],

The purpose, to create a new habitat on the moon for humans with oxygen, plant life, etc... practically recreating the experience here on earth. Not a mini dome here and there but making the whole moon have an atmosphere and self sustaining ecosystem.

Is it possible? Use your imagination and the available technology we have so far..
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What does moon have actually in terms of minerals? It's difficult to imagine on how to create atmosphere on a moon... As atmosphere is the most important criteria to filter sun's radiation

This post has been edited by arthurlwf: Jan 19 2010, 12:43 AM
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post Jan 19 2010, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jan 19 2010, 12:40 AM)
LOL... when earth is dying soon, and you keep saying Human have to die because human have to right to live at Mars.. is it logical?

Just look at the facts, basically human have to migrate as human population is growing rapidly... unless there is a radical reduction on human population (e.g. war, natural disaster, world order to have 1 family 1 baby, disease, etc)
It's easier and cheaper to kill people than trying to terraform any planet. rolleyes.gif


The human race can be saved through necessary and immoral means.


The population can be reduced through medicine and technology and other means.

As long as you cull enough humans before we reach the point of no return, resources can be infinite (plants) and existing stuff can be recycled.


But we have to kill as many humans as possible first to get it back from them. (gold and other metals)


Of course, this is the last resort when attempts to convince religious nuts from having too many children failed.


Eventually all religions would have to be wiped out for the sake of humanity.

We are too diversified as a human race and if we don't change the way we live soon, someone is going to change it for us by force for the sake of the survival of our species,


Logical point of view, these had to be done if we are to survive as a race. It is more feasible than trying to colonize other planets, and risk angering already existing/advanced civilizations.



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post Jan 19 2010, 04:26 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jan 19 2010, 12:40 AM)
What does moon have actually in terms of minerals? It's difficult to imagine on how to create atmosphere on a moon... As atmosphere is the most important criteria to filter sun's radiation
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Helium-3 from regolith, a proposed fuel for fusion, but then again, we probably won't need it for another half a century to a century or so, since fusion power will only probably become viable after that timeframe. But frankly, there isn't much to extract from the Moon, and I honestly wouldn't want to mine the Moon either.

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Terraforming cannot be performed on Moon because of micro gravity that cannot hold back the gas from escaping from Moon.
It's not exactly micro, being approx 1/6th of the gravitational acceleration at its surface (microgravity refers to when you're in some freefall in some gravitational field - you don't experience much, if any gravitational force at all)

While the gravity plays a role in the formation of an atmosphere, another important aspect that's being ignored here is the magnetic fields of the body. The solar wind can easily strip ions/gases from the upper atmosphere if the magnetic field of a body are weak. Note that this is not only true for the Moon, but also Mars, whose atmosphere (likely mainly just the lighter atoms/ions - CO2 is quite heavy) is getting stripped from interactions with the solar wind.

This post has been edited by bgeh: Jan 19 2010, 07:07 AM

 

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