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Enquiries/Recommendations Acer Aspire 5740G-524G50 New! Rm 2999. Worth it?, Core i5-520M, 512MB HD 5470, 4GB, 500GB.

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destee88
post Jan 23 2010, 06:25 PM

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intel gia shu mer fast fast launch first and dun let amd catch up mer and take over the market

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post Jan 23 2010, 07:31 PM

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+10 W still ok la XD
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 23 2010, 06:00 PM)
I guess he doesn't know what Arrandale processors has to offer.. For me why would I choose Arrandale Core i5 and Core i7 rather than a Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz or 2.93GHz or 3.06GHz .. Because of the Turbo Boost, Hyper Threading Technology and 32nm processor biggrin.gif biggrin.gif cooler.. however it does consume more than the current C2D.. which is 35W compared to 25W(P-series C2D)..
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However as you know you need to take into account that Arrandale performs faster/better and draw more power. Btw the Arrandale TDP includes the integrated GPU TDP also.
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post Jan 24 2010, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(eLiz @ Jan 23 2010, 05:22 PM)
C2D is in fact in the mainstream market in the past 2-3 years and if i5 is the one in the mainstream now, why is i5 not replacing it? why would users opt for a processor with higher power consumption than new one with lower where both offers the same or better performance for the latter?

AFAIK, we can look back in the history as how Core Duo was replaced by Core 2 Duo, as we don't see much or none of CD anymore after the introduction of C2D.

assuming i5 is not replacing C2D:
1. why would all manufacturers are refreshing their lineups with i5, which used to be on C2D? isn't this a sign of phasing out instead of opening up a new market?
2. why benchmarks are comparing head-to-head performance between C2D and i5? (same for i7 vs C2Q).

or like what Eugene91 has pointed out, why both C2D and C2Q are listed under previous generation products? if the new Arrandale platform is not meant replace C2D and merely to serve a different segment of the market, C2D would have remained on the main page, just like Pentium, Celeron and Atom.

the thing is, products can be replaced, so is the market.

not looking for an argument here but solely to seek solid explanation and proof on your claims. anyway, i would expect someone from Intel to know its company's products better. smile.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Succinctly put. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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post Jan 24 2010, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(LokiD.d.G @ Jan 24 2010, 03:54 AM)
Succinctly put. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Hey all pros here, so if i5 is inlcuded with an intergrated GPU, its that mean, if I was just using such laptop to online, it will turn off the 5470, and mayb one of its core too?
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no, because it doesn't include the function of hybrid gpu...
its there, but you can't use it.
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QUOTE(eLiz @ Jan 23 2010, 05:22 PM)
C2D is in fact in the mainstream market in the past 2-3 years and if i5 is the one in the mainstream now, why is i5 not replacing it? why would users opt for a processor with higher power consumption than new one with lower where both offers the same or better performance for the latter?

AFAIK, we can look back in the history as how Core Duo was replaced by Core 2 Duo, as we don't see much or none of CD anymore after the introduction of C2D.

assuming i5 is not replacing C2D:
1. why would all manufacturers are refreshing their lineups with i5, which used to be on C2D? isn't this a sign of phasing out instead of opening up a new market?
2. why benchmarks are comparing head-to-head performance between C2D and i5? (same for i7 vs C2Q).

or like what Eugene91 has pointed out, why both C2D and C2Q are listed under previous generation products? if the new Arrandale platform is not meant replace C2D and merely to serve a different segment of the market, C2D would have remained on the main page, just like Pentium, Celeron and Atom.

the thing is, products can be replaced, so is the market.

not looking for an argument here but solely to seek solid explanation and proof on your claims. anyway, i would expect someone from Intel to know its company's products better. smile.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Totally agree. How can the market be replaced without replacing the current product..

There is no need to ask people to watch about their language as no vulgarity or profanity was used. Just be polite and voice your comment.

Plus I doubt that you work as an Intel sales representative. Pls provide prove..

For example i can type

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Jan 24 2010, 12:44 PM)
no, because it doesn't include the function of hybrid gpu...
its there, but you can't use it.
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Will driver help in the future?
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well, provided if the manufacturer wanted to enable/support hybrid gpu in the future, then yes.
else, most likely not.
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post Jan 24 2010, 02:20 PM

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I dun see the cons of doing so...
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well, sure, but still it depends on their decision.
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post Jan 24 2010, 03:00 PM

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seems like many brands already started to change to the iCore series already.... Toshiba also have a few in the lineup
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:00 PM)
seems like many brands already started to change to the iCore series already.... Toshiba also have a few in the lineup
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Yeah, but then the problem is the price tag.

Acer seems very cheap in all terms, I'm just worry about the reliability and durability. I'm going to get either this one or another 4740G in the mid of February.
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keep update for the durability here ><
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Some say Acer always have hardware failure, especially hard disk and optical drive. Some say they are regret paying extra money for extra warranty because of never use it.

So, which side should I trust. But I have to say, buying any electronic hardware or even car in our life is all are depend on your luck.
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Hey! , Does anyone know wht is the different between Intel core 2 duo P8700 and Intel i5 520m processor. If lets said more into gaming, which give better performance? or most likely the same?
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QUOTE(Unomi @ Jan 24 2010, 04:10 PM)
Hey! , Does anyone know wht is the different between Intel core 2 duo P8700 and Intel i5 520m processor. If lets said more into gaming, which give better performance? or most likely the same?
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turbo boost and hyperthreading
clock by clock, i5 should be faster by 10-20%
and also, if the program only support one core, i5 520M can overclock its one core to 2.9ghz while p8700 would still only 2.5ghz
gaming wise, most likely almost the same with slight advantage with i5 though for most games, gpu would be the bottleneck...

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QUOTE(oec88 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:02 PM)
Yeah, but then the problem is the price tag.

Acer seems very cheap in all terms, I'm just worry about the reliability and durability. I'm going to get either this one or another 4740G in the mid of February.
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ya i'm waiting for all to come out before making a decision

QUOTE(oec88 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:49 PM)
Some say Acer always have hardware failure, especially hard disk and optical drive. Some say they are regret paying extra money for extra warranty because of never use it.

So, which side should I trust. But I have to say, buying any electronic hardware or even car in our life is all are depend on your luck.
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well paying for extra money for the 3 years warranty wouldn't be a waste as most of the time after 2 years got problem arises for laptops.... those people most probably seldom use their laptop I guess
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post Jan 24 2010, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(oec88 @ Jan 24 2010, 03:49 PM)
Some say Acer always have hardware failure, especially hard disk and optical drive. Some say they are regret paying extra money for extra warranty because of never use it.

So, which side should I trust. But I have to say, buying any electronic hardware or even car in our life is all are depend on your luck.
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Hard disk and Optical Drive has nothing to do with acer.. Acer only buys and use them lol..

Harddisk(WD, Seagate as far as i know acer uses) and Optical Drive(LG, Pioneer.. i forgot the rest)..

Brand doesnt really matter in terms of hardware.. but in terms of service and support yes..
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post Jan 24 2010, 06:50 PM

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then in term of service~~ should go for dell ^^

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