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 Studying in Australia (V 3.1), Please use proper English

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post Sep 15 2010, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(JasonMania @ Sep 13 2010, 09:26 PM)
I had recommendation,

Can you guys come with a guide or set of recommendation on on how to rent a place in Australia, how to find a place , or an agent , what are the general procedures like ?

and than may be we can add that into beginning of the topic , cause i am thinking of going for off-campus accommodation , and I am not very clear on what should I do , and what to be careful with when I want to rent a place over there?
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I feel that all universities have made enough support structures for these matters regarding accommodation. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. All universities will have a International Student Department and a Accommodation Service which assists in accommodation issues, both on and off campus.

Also, this is the Studying in Australia thread, not "Promoting Australia as a education destination" thread. It is not the intent of members in this thread to tell you where to pursue your study. Nor are we promoters. Make your decision, then start asking.

Ask vague questions, and you'll get vague answers.
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post Sep 28 2010, 07:29 AM

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From the main rules and regulations:
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Do not spam, post unconstructively or open multiple threads with similar messages.

Do not post unless you have something to contribute.
From the Education Essentials sub-forum rules:
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3. Please take a good look at the pinned threads, before opening a thread to enquire about your queries or to discuss about an issue. Chances are, they are already there, since the pinned threads are created to cover some of the most discussed about topics in this subforum.

7. Before posting a question, please at least do a little bit of background research instead of opening up topics [..].
Ignorance of any law is never an excuse or a defense. Nothing we are doing here has never been done. If you do your homework, you will realise that much of the information you seek has been documented in the past.
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post Sep 28 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 28 2010, 12:42 PM)
1. Well. I think its time to refresh the first page of the thread includes those Legal Agent IDP...
I am very reluctant to put up ANY links to commercial entities which relate to education. Have you forgotten the stupid charade when members [="@k£LwIN@"=] and oceanblue123 came in with their "introduction support services".

Today it is IDP. Tomorrow its someone running a service between the airport and the CBD. Next thing you know people are offering their services for "assignment proof-reading". So where do you stop? Or do you want the front page nothing more but a collection of links?

I have made my stance clear on education agents, and experiences shared in the multiple versions of the Studying in Australia threads only serve to reinforce my low opinion of them.
QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 28 2010, 12:42 PM)
2. Impose Copyright as companies may try to hijack information & duplicate it for their business services purpose.


Proposal rejected. Copyright is far more complicated than a line of text with the © logo. At most I would use a Creative Commons license, but I personally prefer it to be a something akin to the GPL, where people can modify and improve it, rather than it being static.

Claiming copyright (which I do not, as much of the information comes from many members, both past and present) of any of the material in the Studying in Australia threads is one thing. Being able to enforce the "Copyright" (note upper case) is completely another matter. There is no point "Impos[ing] Copyright" when there is no way of enforcing it when "companies [..] try to hijack information & duplicate it for their business services purpose."
QUOTE(KVReninem @ Sep 28 2010, 12:42 PM)
3. Topic Tittle/Subcategory: Create a sub-category for Studying in Australia > which few University like Monash under it & others related. So any issues & education related just in this category.Its better in the way that this thread basically doesnt fall behind few pages of thread.
I cannot understand this proposal. Reword it if you are serious in having it considered.


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post Oct 4 2010, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(nhb555 @ Oct 4 2010, 01:05 AM)
erm i wanna know trinity college better or taylors college ? coz im going to apply for foundation next week and i still dono which to choose haha.. after foundation i might be going UTAS if i plan to stdy naval architect if civil engineer i stay at melb to continue haha.. thx in a million!
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1) Read the front page first. Ask vague questions, and you'll get vague answers.

2) What do you intent to study in these places (if any) to use as an entrance qualification to enter university?

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post Oct 6 2010, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Jumbodumbo @ Oct 6 2010, 01:27 AM)
if im taking year 12 or foundation i would most probably go to trinity or taylors which will later let me study in melb university or monash uni. But im afraid just in case i dont meet their requirements, i have no other path. ( correct me if im wrong). Therefore i prefer to take a levels as it is safer. but as far as i know taylors and trinity dont offer a levels right?
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Which one? Year 12 and foundation are 2 separate things. Don't mix them up now.

If you can't make the cut in Australia with Year 12 to the course of your choice, what makes you think that A-levels will be any different? These 2 qualifications are not that dissimilar.

Secondly, I think we have to distinguish between Taylors College Malaysia and Taylors College Australia. They are not the same thing. Other than some intersection in the qualifications they offer (primarily on the Malaysian one) they are only same in name. So no, no place in Australia offers A-levels officially. (That said, there is nothing stopping you taking it as a private candidate in Australia, but as a Malaysian why would you want to do that?)

The thing is Malaysians have been brainwashed to thinking that multiple university entrance qualifications are normal. They are not. It is a disturbing abomination that is contrary to most good practices around the world. In Australia you have to do the appropriate Year 12 in the different states/territories for university entrance. No rubbish of a TER 99 score is the somehow the same as AAA in A-levels which is supposedly the linear equivalent of a CGPA of 3.92 in STPM.

Finally Australian Year 12 is accepted as an entrance qualification in most UK universities, so no, there is another path.

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post Oct 10 2010, 02:36 PM

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Media coverage: http://www.malaysianmirror.com/lifestylede...australia-urged

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A Bernama report quotes MSD acting director Zahari Long urging Malaysians in Australia to register with the MSD and the Ministry of Higher Education.

http://www.mohe.gov.my/stdinfo/laman.php
http://www.msda.org.au/index.php?p=2_3

Its all online now, so there should be no excuse not to.
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post Oct 12 2010, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(masquerade @ Oct 12 2010, 12:10 AM)
anybody know anythg about medical checkup details ?
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This matter has been well discussed in the Studying in Australia threads, and more importantly Immigration has very clear information on this matter on their website.

Better start being more observant.

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/health-requirements/
http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/overseas/m/malaysia/panel-doctors.htm

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post Oct 17 2010, 07:55 PM

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If you are caught with drugs at the border, consider your student visa canceled on the spot.

If you are a non-resident and are caught with drugs, be prepared to be charged in court, and be sent back to Malaysia at the end of the sentence.

If you can't satisfy a medical test, do NOT come to Australia.

And if any Australian visa you hold is canceled for whatever reason, don't expect to get a Australian visa for a very long time. There are no immigration officers to bribe.

Entrance to Australia is a privilege, not a right.
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post Oct 30 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(gome @ Oct 29 2010, 09:29 PM)
Hey people. I've decided to go for Murdoch University. Any advise if I should stay on-campus (Murdoch Village) or off-campus?

For a single room in Murdoch Village, it'll cost $160 per week, after adding in the utility bills. On top of that, there are other once off fees like residential program fee ($175!). Minimum contract would be 21 weeks.

For off-campus, I did a quick search in realestate.com.au and the cheapest I found is $130 per week, located in Kardinya. It's a single room and the utility fees are included in that $130. Is this area safe, and how much does a cheap bicycle cost? tongue.gif
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I always advice first timers to try for university accommodation on first arrival. One has enough on their plate when arriving in a new place without trying to find a place in a classified ad with no public transport and at the whim of the person renting it.

21 weeks is roughly half a year. I would go for it. Once you're more settled and more familiar with the place and the suburbs, and know the $130 per week place is a decent deal rather than a dump with the landlord from hell, then one can consider moving out to cheaper accommodation if one wishes. (I know people who are so happy with university accommodation, they're been there for 2 years!)

That said, there is nothing stopping you from seeking outside accommodation from the outset. Many do.

A decent bike starts about $150. The key word here is decent.

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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Nov 2 2010, 07:50 PM)
you guys have any idea approximately how much does it cost for the medical examination for the visa? I can't seem to find info on it lol ^^"
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Costs are determined by the individual medical practitioners where you have your checkup. As member Tony C said, shouldn't be more than RM200. A list of where you can have your checkup can be found on Immigration's website.
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 4 2010, 07:50 PM)
Hey guys,just wondering whats the minimum stay in Australia to obtain free AP ? and how long should i own a car for me to bring back to Malaysia ? any other thing that i should know about bringing back a car to Malaysia ? thanks!
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The Malaysian High Commission website is a start: http://www.malaysia.org.au/info2.html

Remember, this is the Studying in Australia thread, not how-to-bring-stuff-from-Australia-to-Malaysia thread. I will demure on the practicality of bringing a car from Australia to Malaysia (is it really any cheaper?)
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post Nov 8 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(zekeywong @ Nov 8 2010, 01:20 AM)
hi!! what is this thread about??  can explain?? biggrin.gif  and im going to SAIBT in Feb next year...  south australian institute of business and technology.... ^^


Added on November 8, 2010, 1:27 amalright! this's a guide. btw, do you know whether there's
"LYN" in Australia?
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Maybe it would be prudent to read before you post, and instead of showing your ignorance and inablilty to read. Unless you enjoy being a trigger happy poster and bask in being illiterate.

There are a few major web forums around the Australian netizen community, through some like Whirlpool have very strong enforcement policies and people who blindly post without searching usually have their threads closed/deleted. Like most things Malaysian, enforcement is not a Malaysian trait.
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 9 2010, 08:25 AM)
these are called white goods, and usually will be included in the unit/house..........including fridge, washing machine, microwave..........
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Not necessarily. I have seen houses/units for rent that don't come with fridge and/or washing machine. And more often than not the microwave is BYO.

Re Blackberries: I have no idea how much Blackberries cost in M'sia. However, a cursory glance at the Blackberry plans across the telco's seem to suggest that Blackberry contract plans seem to be around the $49/month mark. Also keep in mind they are 24 month contracts. And to unlock them may incur a extra fee (Optus is most guilty of this).

The websites of major telco's are on the front page.
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QUOTE(v2Rustie @ Dec 12 2010, 12:49 PM)
i have a question of my own...i've just bought a desktop not to long ago and im wondering if it would be wise to bring it along with me to australia.. was wondering whether its safe for my computer because i see malaysian airport workers really cmi..they throw ur stuff all over the place even if theres a fragile sticker on it...
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I know fellow M'sians who bring along their desktop's with checkin. Some tips:

1) Take out the hard drive, the optical drive and the CPU + fan. Essentially anything that has movable parts. If you are confident, put these in the check-in luggage with padding. Else carry with you in your cabin luggage.

2) Pad the inside of the casing. Even old newspaper would do. The point is to not have things flying around inside the casing while in transit.

3) Ask for a fragile sticker at check-in. Even at KLIA they tend to obey that. If arriving in Brisbane, your desktop computer should come out of the "fragile items" conveyor belt. The same one that serves the surf boards of Aussie's who come to SEA to surf (the waves).

Whether it is cost effective to bring a desktop computer to Australia vs buying/assembling one here, I will leave it to the individual.

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QUOTE(mushroomgirl @ Dec 28 2010, 02:06 AM)
hi, do u guys buy your textbooks in Aus? Or buy them in M'sia and bring em over to Aus? I've been told that the books in Aussie costs a bomb yawn.gif
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It has to be noted that some textbooks which are used in Australia are not available in Malaysia. Secondly, at times it is far more cost effective to order from amazon.com than bring from Malaysia. Unless you know for sure what books you will need, I would advice against trying to bring books from M'sia on the initial journey.

Your luggage allowance can be used for far more interesting things.

Edit: typo's.

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post Dec 29 2010, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(rickrick @ Dec 28 2010, 11:19 PM)
But if you just want cheap and reliable connections, there's dodo and others.
For the love of your sanity and all tech support staff, please DO NOT use dodo as a ISP. Cheap, yes. Reliable? Even Streamyx is more consistent than them at times. And one can never call Dodo's network fast.

Seriously, even Telstra's plans are better than them once you read the fine print and add up all them hidden charges.

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QUOTE(rickrick @ Dec 29 2010, 10:56 AM)
hehe u try dodo be4 izit? my housemate hav been using it for a very long time. everyday he skype and dl movies, and the speeds are pretty fast ! 200-300k no sweat ! i'm not lying here, i saw it since he told me to dl movies on his lappy bcuz alot of quota left in his account. But consistent wise not sure bout this part ..
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I presume you mean downloading at 200-300 kilobytes per second. (Not that most people know the difference) With ADSL 2+, that is below average. I routinely hit 500-600 KB/s while in quota (which is actually quite generous these days).

And I'm the far end of the exchange coverage area.

Oh you poor poor Malaysians, thinking 200-300KB/s is fast. (admittedly, it is kinda decent) Malaysia Boleh indeed.
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Guys, this is the Studying in Australia thread, not "I want to use an Australian qualification to migrate" thread.

I will openly admit that it is a common event, but there is no need to add to the problem. It is bad enough that Chinese and Indian nationals are not well regarded in Australia. It is even worst when Malaysia consists of, amongst other things, ethnic Chinese and Indians. Let's keep M'sia on the favorable terms list shall we?

Ask yourself: are you coming to Australia for an education, or to migrate? If its the latter, don't whine why the rules get tighter every year. For it is percisely such people they're trying to keep out.
QUOTE(zeke'stah @ Jan 7 2011, 12:26 AM)
like here bro, http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/sol/    which do i select?  schedule 3?  sorry i'm so blur at this...
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Schedule 3 will apply to most people, an in particular for a 885. Do note that Australian immigration changes their rules like people change their shirts. The migration rules that were in place when I went in 4 years ago no longer exist.

While I acknowledge some advance planning is always welcome, it has to be noted that when you're about to graduate, the rules will have changed, and may be to your disadvantage. Its a bit premature deciding on majors when you're only starting.
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QUOTE(Nufag @ Jan 9 2011, 09:45 AM)
holy shit! that means melbourne uni has the most expensive fees of any uni on the planet. Roughly 31k
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I wouldn't say "on the planet", but it is one of the most expensive in the Australia/New Zealand region.

Me in Brisbane, fees A$19k a year, cost of living A$15,000/year. At the current rates, its close to RM102,032 a year. So yes, it is not unusual to hit RM100k/year for a education in Australia.

There are always cheaper destinations. Once upon a time (approx 2.5 years back) Australia was actually pretty affordable.
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QUOTE(Shooterz @ Jan 11 2011, 10:58 PM)
oh yea,  is QUT affected by the flood ?
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Gardens Point campus is all but closed. Its a lake everywhere. Those who live in the CBD are trapped in their own place. Kelvin Grove is still dry, but if Kelvin Grove Campus floods I don't think Brisbane will be quite livable.

In any case QUT is all closed, and the road to UQ is a river.

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