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TSviper1912
post Jan 7 2010, 12:30 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi...

I can see a lot of forummers getting the astro byond. Anyone try upgrade the FOC HDMI cable to a better 1?

What are the common brand that you guys upgraded?


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post Jan 7 2010, 12:33 PM

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the FOC hdmi adi good enouf... as long as its a v1.3a or higher is adi more than enouf adi..
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post Jan 7 2010, 12:36 PM

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i got spare belkin hdmi cable, using it
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post Jan 7 2010, 12:40 PM

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Ehh the quality already so good still not enuf?

Anyway, let me try swapping my AC Ryan HDMI cable (Better quality) wth Astro & see 1st..I doubt any diff...

Anyway, for those really wanna dump $$, it's good to try Monster cable also..haha
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post Jan 7 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Jan 7 2010, 12:36 PM)
i got spare belkin hdmi cable, using it
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am also using a 1.8M belkin cable for astro..

the 1.5m one supplied was juuuust too short for my set up
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post Jan 7 2010, 12:46 PM

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HDMI cable are classified based on its speed capability, lower speed cat 1 , and higher speed cat 2

for short cable run any brand can do fine, for longer run you may need a better constructed cable, those insanely expensive cables are not necessary better constructed.

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post Jan 7 2010, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Jan 7 2010, 12:46 PM)
HDMI cable are classified based on its speed capability, lower speed cat 1 , and higher speed cat 2

for short cable run any brand can do fine, for longer run you may need a better constructed cable, those insanely expensive cables are not necessary better constructed.
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really didnt know abt tis. Thank you all the input. Any other forummer using different brand of HDMI apart from belkin, monster...or even higher grade......HDMI cables?
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Jan 7 2010, 12:46 PM)
HDMI cable are classified based on its speed capability, lower speed cat 1 , and higher speed cat 2

for short cable run any brand can do fine, for longer run you may need a better constructed cable, those insanely expensive cables are not necessary better constructed.
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aku ingat kabel hdmi sumer sama je..rupanya bnyak jenis ek tongue.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:31 PM

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HDMI is based on TDMS signalling, cable need to be properly constructed to eliminate problems arised from high speed communication through copper wire

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post Jan 7 2010, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Jan 7 2010, 04:31 PM)
HDMI is based on TDMS signalling, cable need to be properly constructed to eliminate problems arised from high speed communication through copper wire
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And if you didn't understand all that tech speak, it basically comes down to this: If any of the bits is dropped or mangled, you get HDMI sprites - where the video is filled with digital noise - or you get no video.

So if you got video and no sprites, the HDMI cable works and no expensive cable is going to make it better.


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post Jan 7 2010, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Jan 7 2010, 04:31 PM)
HDMI is based on TDMS signalling, cable need to be properly constructed to eliminate problems arised from high speed communication through copper wire
what people need to know is that properly constructed cable doesn't mean have to buy branded or expensive type.. china ones that come with the media player/BD player will be fine..
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:38 PM

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5 meters hdmi cable consider long run cable or not ?
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i oso have ask about the same question in other thread...some sifu told that digital oni got 1 or 0...then the picture between the costly 1 and the foc one i think still the same la...
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post Jan 7 2010, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(jake23 @ Jan 7 2010, 10:38 PM)
5 meters hdmi cable consider long run cable or not ?
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No. They costs under RM30 at Carrefour.


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post Jan 8 2010, 07:46 AM

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OK I tried by swapping the ori astro byond cable wth AC Ryan thick insulated cable http://www.acryan.com/index.php?option=com...d=44&Itemid=103 that comes wth POHD...

Sama saja..no diff wor...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 8 2010, 07:46 AM)
OK I tried by swapping the ori astro byond cable wth AC Ryan thick insulated cable http://www.acryan.com/index.php?option=com...d=44&Itemid=103 that comes wth POHD...

Sama saja..no diff wor...
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he3... if use monster hdmi cable also same I think...
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post Jan 8 2010, 08:19 AM

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You guys are silly doh.gif . Till now still don't know the function of Digital Cable.

If you use different quality USB cable to transfer pictures from your external Hard Drive to your PC, do you think the pictures will look sharper , more vibrant and enhanced if using better quality cable or not ? biggrin.gif

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Hehe..just testing to justify TS curiosity mah..No harm feeling..Atleast I know a good shorter cable (~2M) having no diff effect at all..
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post Jan 8 2010, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 8 2010, 08:52 AM)
Hehe..just testing to justify TS curiosity mah..No harm feeling..Atleast I know a good shorter cable (~2M) having no diff effect at all..
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Haha , don't take it the wrong way. I use the term silly on myself all the time biggrin.gif

Anyway Digital cable as long as can transfer data without loss or errors, will get the same data whether it's RM10,000/- cable or RM10/- cable.
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post Jan 8 2010, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 8 2010, 09:08 AM)
Haha , don't take it the wrong way. I use the term silly on myself all the time  biggrin.gif

Anyway Digital cable as long as can transfer data without loss or errors, will get the same data whether it's RM10,000/- cable or RM10/- cable.
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apparently we find out, HDMI does have error problems.. but the error is in the manner of digital artifacts on the output video like purple video or sparklies , very abrubt stuffs, not subtle issues like less bright or less colorful videos.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 10:28 AM)
apparently we find out, HDMI does have error problems.. but the error is in the manner of digital artifacts on the output video like purple video or sparklies , very abrubt stuffs, not subtle issues like less bright or less colorful videos..  biggrin.gif
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Yeah. Error can happen even on digital, but only happens if the cable is not up to spec.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 10:28 AM)
apparently we find out, HDMI does have error problems.. but the error is in the manner of digital artifacts on the output video like purple video or sparklies , very abrubt stuffs, not subtle issues like less bright or less colorful videos..  biggrin.gif
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Yes, any errors of digital data will be noticed very easily. Complete nonsense on the screen.

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post Feb 6 2010, 10:51 AM

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1. anyone have tried splitting the HDMI output from the astro decoder? The reason is that I plan to split one to TV and one to my home theather.. any loss of signal ? any idea for good splitter and cost?

2. If do split into two and set the astro decoder audio to dolby digital only, would there be sound coming from my TV as TV usually doesnt have the software to decode?

thanks
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post Feb 6 2010, 12:14 PM

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1. Theorically, splitting will work if the TV, HT AVR and decoder are in same room. Magic word here is that the splitter, TV and AVR must support HDCP.

Why would you want to do that, tho? Most people just connect their TV to AVR HDMI out and byond to one of the AVR's HDMI In (let the AVR double as a HDMI switch) or connect HDMI to TV and SPDIF coaxial to AVR.

2. no, TV won't have sound if you send DD5.1 signal through HDMI and TV doesn't have DD support. This is already very clearly outlined in Astro byond v2 thread.

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post Feb 8 2010, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Feb 6 2010, 12:14 PM)
1. Theorically, splitting will work if the TV, HT AVR and decoder are in same room. Magic word here is that the splitter, TV and AVR must support HDCP.

Why would you want to do that, tho? Most people just connect their TV to AVR HDMI out and byond to one of the AVR's HDMI In (let the AVR double as a HDMI switch) or connect HDMI to TV and SPDIF coaxial to AVR.


2. no, TV won't have sound if you send DD5.1 signal through HDMI and TV doesn't have DD support. This is already very clearly outlined in Astro byond v2 thread.
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thanks for the tip..
1. the reason to split the HDMI are;
a. do not have to switch AVR everytime watch Astro.
b. my current setup is hdmi out into AVR ( video stream 1080i) and using component cable(red, blue green cables) into TV only stream 576i. I tried HMDI direct to TV and vidoe stream is 1080i.



2. yes tried that also and no sound. you are correct

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post Feb 9 2010, 08:01 AM

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astro byond thread is very useful to byonders...please refer there..tq
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post Feb 9 2010, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 8 2010, 11:14 AM)
Yeah. Error can happen even on digital, but only happens if the cable is not up to spec.
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Sometimes it's not the cable that is at fault. There is a possiblity that the HDMI port could be faulty. wink.gif


 

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