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post Mar 17 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Mar 10 2011, 10:47 PM)
3D projector beams on 110" screen for GT5 gaming with this :

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Mine 73" only but thumbup.gif

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post Mar 17 2011, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ninja @ Mar 17 2011, 10:25 AM)
Mine 73" only but  thumbup.gif

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wow, cool! Make me think to accelerate my plan for 3D projection.
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QUOTE(Ninja @ Mar 17 2011, 10:25 AM)
Mine 73" only but  thumbup.gif

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Your Ikea lamp is nice tongue.gif
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post Mar 18 2011, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Sgt_Pepeer @ Mar 17 2011, 12:11 AM)
i think most ppl call it crosstalk, ghosting is occur when the object moving fast.
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ghosting = lay man term.
crosstalk = technical term.

If you had try 3D 10 years back using CRT, due to the nature of phosphor decay time, you can see overlapping image especially in bright object against dark background. Still had my Elsa 3D revelator glasses. Not sure if that can be hack to work with Nvidia 3D vision.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 17 2011, 12:56 AM)
i seriously think they printed wrongly, cause website dont have  sad.gif
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That price is correct. I already see it my self at harvey norman. RM2599 free 2 pair 3D glass.
This is series 4 model and it just HD ready (not Full HD)

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post Mar 21 2011, 10:50 AM

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Yep.. was browsing around in tv shop last weekend...
The Samsung PS43D490 is already available... but the resolution in that advertisement is wrong.. its not resolution 1920X1080 but 1024X768. It HD ready..

Other 3D capable model for that 2011 4 series is PS51D490. with resolution 1365X768...

Hmmm... 3D HD ready and 3D Full HD which is better? Or since its plasma, can't tell???

oh yeah, anybody has tried the 3d for this setting.. When I was at the shop, the glass is not available so can't try...

Anybody here has experience using samsung 3dtv???


Added on March 21, 2011, 10:56 am
QUOTE(chinmh @ Jan 27 2011, 05:06 PM)
I got mine from Mid Valley and also no stock for the glasses and transmitter. So i think we have to wait until chinese new year is over before we can get the glasses.

But i did ask them to put a remark on my receipt that i haven't collected the items just in case they back out on the offer.
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Oh.. have you tried the 3d mode yet... How is it??? Btw, you are using what model??? the nX710 is it?

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post Mar 31 2011, 12:18 AM

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Check out the review on 3D section. It highlight the advantage of Plasma over LCD in 3D performance. One point to take note that LCD screen and 3D glasses is polarized which means if you look at the screen from a different angle, it will look darker.

http://www.avforums.com/review/Samsung-C70...sma-review.html
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post May 1 2011, 06:21 PM

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NEW 3D Technology from LG.
Its called the Cinema 3D.

http://www.lg.com/my/tv-audio-video/televi...tv-47LW5700.jsp

Key feature is on the Polarized-3D glasses. These type of 3D glasses do not need battery to view 3D content.
There's no circuitary system. Hence these polarized-3D glasses can be manufactured at a fraction of the cost compared to those conventual active-shutter-3D glasses.
Just as how you'd watch 3D movies in the Cinema. In fact, you only pay RM5 for the polarized-3D glasses in Cinemas such as TGV/GSC/Cathay/MBO.

Personally, I feel that this type of 3D TVs are going to dominate the market.

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post May 1 2011, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(calvinchin @ May 1 2011, 06:21 PM)
NEW 3D Technology from LG.
Its called the Cinema 3D.

http://www.lg.com/my/tv-audio-video/televi...tv-47LW5700.jsp

Key feature is on the Polarized-3D glasses. These type of 3D glasses do not need battery to view 3D content.
There's no circuitary system. Hence these polarized-3D glasses can be manufactured at a fraction of the cost compared to those conventual active-shutter-3D glasses.
Just as how you'd watch 3D movies in the Cinema. In fact, you only pay RM5 for the polarized-3D glasses in Cinemas such as TGV/GSC/Cathay/MBO.

Personally, I feel that this type of 3D TVs are going to dominate the market.
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I'd rather have autostereoscopic 3D tho. So far only Toshiba makes such sets and it's not available in Malaysia (afaik, so far only Japan has). Willing to wait until next year to see how this plays out.

Which is very weird. Sharp makes the panels but don't use it in their own electronics- only license out....

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post May 2 2011, 12:47 AM

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Just for tips who want to watch astro football in 3D channel 830 ..

panasonic 3d tvs , go to setup : 3D : access .. change to double slide view ..

wear ur 3d spec and enjoy
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post May 7 2011, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(calvinchin @ May 1 2011, 06:21 PM)
NEW 3D Technology from LG.
Its called the Cinema 3D.
Not quite new. It's been announced at CES 2011 back in January. Samsung is reportedly working on passive 3D as well. So far, the only ones in the market with passive 3D are LG and Vizio. Since Vizio doesn't sell their TVs in Malaysia (wonder why, considering that they can corner the market better than Haier), LG's announcement means for at least 12 months, they will dominate passive 3D HDTVs. And from what I read from AVSF, LG's quality is much better than Vizio.

http://www.lg.com/my/tv-audio-video/televi...tv-47LW5700.jsp

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Key feature is on the Polarized-3D glasses. These type of 3D glasses do not need battery to view 3D content.
There's no circuitary system. Hence these polarized-3D glasses can be manufactured at a fraction of the cost compared to those conventual active-shutter-3D glasses.
You can buy an active LCD glasses for about US$80. You can buy one of these polarized glasses for under US$5.

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Just as how you'd watch 3D movies in the Cinema. In fact, you only pay RM5 for the polarized-3D glasses in Cinemas such as TGV/GSC/Cathay/MBO.
Not quite. You pay RM5 to RENT the Dolby 3D glasses (GSC Maxx glasses are active LCD glasses which costs about US$80). If you lose it or damage it, you'd have to pay RM200. It used to cost US$50 per Dolby 3D glasses. Now Dolby has discovered new manufacturing techniques to sell it at US$20. Unless you're mysophobic, you don't need to buy the Dolby 3D glasses because so far, Infitec tech is not being developed for HDTVs.

The reason why LG call it Cinema 3D is because the polarized glasses here are circularly polarized, which is the same technique used by RealD 3D. RealD is the most popular 3D installation system in the world. We just don't have it here. If we did, then LG's passive 3D HDTVs will get a massive boost because those glasses are cheap.

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Personally, I feel that this type of 3D TVs are going to dominate the market.
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If LG can sell it for under RM9000 for a 55" and give 8 pairs of glasses, then they can.

QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ May 1 2011, 11:20 PM)
I'd rather have autostereoscopic 3D tho. So far only Toshiba makes such sets and it's not available in Malaysia (afaik, so far only Japan has). Willing to wait until next year to see how this plays out.
Autostereoscopic HDTVs are expensive, lacking detail and so far very small. So far the tech involved includes head tracking, which is great if you're all alone in your house.

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Which is very weird. Sharp makes the panels but don't use it in their own electronics- only license out....
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If you're talking about the above passive 3D HDTV tech, you can use the FPR laminate on LCD or plasma panel and apply the right algorithm to make the image splitting work.

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LG is also launching D41P (21") and D42P (25") 3D computer monitors. These 1080p monitors also uses FPR which means you can use the same passive glasses from your monitor to your passive 3D TV and vice versa. The monitors can also convert 2D to 3D.


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post May 7 2011, 07:50 AM

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You guys know that FPR cut the resolution into half? Still not a perfect 3D solution.
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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 7 2011, 07:50 AM)
You guys know that FPR cut the resolution into half? Still not a perfect 3D solution.
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Well, the resolution is cut in half for 3D transmission (notice how there is split screen on non-3D displays).

Yeah, I'm talking about passive 3D. Although FPR laminate won't be very useful because the TV cannot process 3D info to spread onto the screen.
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post May 7 2011, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 7 2011, 07:50 AM)
You guys know that FPR cut the resolution into half? Still not a perfect 3D solution.
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Neither is the active LCD glasses with its ghosting and flickering issues.

For a typical setting where the sitting area is about 6 feet away from the TV, passive 3D users do not see the resolution loss. Because the left eye and right eye image are combined in the brain, the brain fill in the details that is lost.

QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ May 7 2011, 12:22 PM)
Well, the resolution is cut in half for 3D transmission (notice how there is split screen on non-3D displays).
pierreye was talking about FPR, not 3D SBS transmission on Astro.

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Yeah, I'm talking about passive 3D. Although FPR laminate won't be very useful because the TV cannot process 3D info to spread onto the screen.
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FPR is just one component of a 3DTV. You still need GPUs to render all the 3D types to the screen; this is true for all 3DTVs.


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post May 7 2011, 04:20 PM

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My dream is to own a HMD with 2 different screen for each eye with high FOV. This is a perfect setup for 3D.
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post May 7 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ May 7 2011, 04:20 PM)
My dream is to own a HMD with 2 different screen for each eye with high FOV. This is a perfect setup for 3D.
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You mean like this?

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I can't imagine enjoying that to watch a 2-hour movie let alone playing KZ3/R3 online with it. It's too heavy. The 1280x1024 dual-input version costs US$10,500 and it can't even be hooked up to a dual-DVI graphic card. You can also find xSight on that site that supports input for 1080p but it doesn't indicate native resolution. For the pricing info, you must call to find out which means it costs more than US$10,500.

I could build a circular polarized passive system using 2 Optoma 3D-XLs, 2 Panasonic AE4000U, a 120" DIY silver screen and circular lenses for under US$8,000. You can still use it to connect to a PC to play 3D games at 1080p.


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Well, still waiting for an affordable 720p dual screen HMD with either dual input or 1.4 3D compatible. One advantage with HMD is head tracking. Imagine flight simulator and driving simulator in 3D cockpit.
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this is really ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuccccccccxxxxxxxx cheap..........FPR technology
convert to RM = RM2000..............too bad not selling here.....
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post May 23 2011, 01:30 AM

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guys,
what's the pros and cons of both Polarized-3D glasses and active-shutter-3D glasses ?
im looking for 3D tv now.. should i wait for LG cinema 3D or just get sony 55EX720 ?
seems like passive 3d without flickering is better choice?

lg cinema 3D tv launch in MY already?



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