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Opps,nice to hear that. QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Dec 13 2010, 08:29 PM)
He has a better machine for HD movies. INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V9<<, The Journey Continues Here!
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Dec 13 2010, 10:15 PM
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Dec 15 2010, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(Rudd @ Dec 13 2010, 11:37 PM) Any AGP cards will suit your mobo. You can get HD3850 if are looking for a high end one.QUOTE(edministrator @ Dec 14 2010, 10:47 PM) @edmin,1080p movies you can use your another machine to playback. It's not nice to watch on small screen right? |
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Dec 17 2010, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 16 2010, 06:25 PM) Which AGP card you had before this?QUOTE(edministrator @ Dec 16 2010, 11:48 PM) 720p can run fine on P4m 2.0Ghz with 512MB ram with normal Radeon 7500 GPU that does not have any HD hardware acceleration (even if you have nvidia 7600GT AGP also no hardware HD acceleration). If lag, i think is your pc resources issues, such as background programs, etc that hogs certain % of your CPU. Are you with Haali codec on board? |
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Dec 19 2010, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Dec 17 2010, 11:59 PM) coreavc....How much is the cpu utilization with it?QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 19 2010, 03:00 AM) Radeon 3850 bro. Had one before, then sold it... Updated,mind to share some screen shoot with us? Now I have a 6800GS only. Also have a 4600Ti, Geforce 3 Ti200 and Radeon 8500. About a dozen other non-interesting cards also, like FX5200, 6200, etc. Also wanna update, changed my cooler to a CM N620, with custom bracket, and stable at 3.95Ghz so far. Going for 4 ghz, maybe more if I can |
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Dec 19 2010, 10:59 PM
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Dec 20 2010, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 20 2010, 09:10 AM) Thanks bro. FSB at 1066mhz, ram at 177mhz CL2.5 - cause my rams are just generic stuff. Temps even with the new cooler are low 70s during intelburn test. My test room is not air con'ed- ambient temps are high- so that's a big minus point. The whole case gets blazing hot until even the panels feel like the side of an oven. You can actually start sweating sitting around this system. Stability is of course best early in the morning Stability tests completed at 4ghz- intel burn test 10 loops maximum stress, superpi 32m, unigine cathedral, prime 95 2 hrs and 1/2 hr of NFS:MW. No 24 hr prime test- I just don't believe in 24 hr priming anymore, the stress it places on system components is lethal and I prefer more real world tests. High power draw of the prescotts at 4ghz will burn out mosfets eventually. Now that I've hit 4ghz, I'm gonna lower it to something "sane" for 24/7 use - maybe 3.6ghz . I kinda like my retro P4 so I want it to last just a bit longer. |
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Dec 20 2010, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(KahLooN @ Dec 20 2010, 10:48 AM) Long time no drop by this thread. Seems is till very active. My Northwood is hardly to get stable at 3.7GHz with 1:1 ratio with 4 sticks of RAM. Best case is to run on 226MHz or 227MHz on fsb. @SGT76 Maybe you can include all the parameter such as ram timing, voltage etc. Just my suggestions. Running at 4GHz is superb, but too much of heat generated is another issue. A 3.6GHz would be sweet enough to run daily works. @raymond Bro, perhaps is time for you to go further than 3.6GHz. QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 20 2010, 11:08 AM) shinjite,is your P4 ES still on service? QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 20 2010, 02:00 PM) Running at 4ghz is scary- the system feels like it's on a thin edge. The air exhausted out the back fan and psu is like a building exhaust vent. Case side panels hot. Northbridge heatsink WILL burn fingers real fast, vcore fluctuates due to droop. Your Prescott is very much better in terms of pushing to high frequency compare to Northwood core. 90nm vs. 130nm architecture. Parameters are: ram timings: 2.5-3-3-7 @ 177mhz dual channel voltage set in bios to 1.385v, but due to vdroop it fluctuates wildly. Setting it higher than this pushes temps way too high. pci/agp/sata all locked at 33/66/100 super patch and all auto enhancements off hardware is: Processor: Prescott 3.0 E0 stepping Motherboard: DFI 865PE-AL Ram: 1 stick Kingmax 512mb DDR400 and 1 stick Kingston 512mb DDR333 CPU cooler: Coolermaster Hyper N620, with modified Deepcool s478 mounting, 2 x12CM fans Thermal past: Zalman Graphics: Nvidia 6800GS, Palit oc'ed version, further pushed to 470/1300--> faster than a 6800 Ultra Hard disk: 2 x 40gb (1 maxtor, 1 Hitachi) Optical drive: Sony CD/ DVD combo Floppy: Sony 1.44" Sound card: SB Live ! CT4830 with EMU chip (on-board sound doesn't like oc- becomes flaky) Case: Coolermaster Elite, forgot which model- 3 x 12cm CM fans PSU: Tagan 480w Others: CM Musketeer with bling bling meter Future plans: get some better rams - Kingston Hyper-X or similar, more modern video card- Radeon 2600, 4650 or 3850, add more fans - maybe 2 in the rear in sequence to extract hot air faster, heatsinks on mosfets, southbridge, ram cooler. |
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Dec 20 2010, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 20 2010, 05:50 PM) 3.6ghz on Northwood is very impressive. Before this I was using 2.8b, max stable oc only 3.36ghz. Clock-4-clock, Northie is 10% faster than presscott I think, so your 3.6ghz should be about a 4ghz pressie. Mine is C version, C version is having a better overclocking than A & B version. I don't think Northwood is performing better in clock to clock performance,it should be the same as they are from P4 family. Ya, ya 3:2... my matematik very phail one |
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Dec 20 2010, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 20 2010, 06:15 PM) C Northie is the best P4 bro. Northwood only 21 stage pipeline, prescott is 30 stage. Make many many extra rounds in the silicon, then only the superpi come out. 4GHz fro daily use, Very inspired lah joining this thread. I think today I go back I'm gonna tweak my system some more and try to get that 4ghz 24/7 stable. QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 20 2010, 06:16 PM) Prescott has a longer pipeline compared to the Northwoods bro shinjite,you agree that Northwood core beats Prescott in clock to clock performance? I think that kind of perfomance is not significant. So clock per clock at stock, the Northwood is able to beat the Prescott But due to smaller dye for the Prescott, it can scale higher than Northwood in terms of overclocking to compensate on the longer pipelines |
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Dec 21 2010, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 21 2010, 01:13 AM) Clock to clock it definitely beats the Prescott in stock form, that is a fact after all but not when the Prescott is overclocked 400MHz boost in clockspeed for P4 today is negligible almost but i believe it still does help a little in term of speed/performance. You're right, it's nice to see high clock speed.With the help of a larger 1MB cache couple up with high overclocking ability (0.09 micron), the longer 31 stages of pipelines is easily being compensated About significance....for a P4, a 400Mhz bump in clockspeed, the gain is so negligible that one can say it is close to non-existence (which for me is true, just nice to see high clockspeeds |
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Dec 21 2010, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 21 2010, 01:20 PM) It does help in speed/performance in applications, just that it is negligible even though with HT on. However in Windows, it is close to non-existence. If it is snappy, it will be snappy. No choice for me now but try to boost the proc at higher clocks for daily use only. I know the comment from you meant as the newer technology cual core or better has actually boost miles of performance in apllications and speed. |
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Dec 23 2010, 10:24 AM
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@SGT76,nice screen shots from you. They're informative.
QUOTE(edministrator @ Dec 22 2010, 09:58 AM) the Gflops in intelburntest for the P4 is 4Gflops from the screenshot. My X3220 oc'ed to 3.3Ghz is 44Gflops... |
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Dec 30 2010, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 23 2010, 01:15 PM) Thanks bro. Learned a lot from Lowyat from reading all the posts, now I'm just giving back by sharing some info. Getting this to a stable 4ghz for practical 24/7 usage was the most challenging project I've ever undertaken- had to add heatsinks on all the mosfets, modify the custom mount a bit more, tweak the volts, remove unneccesary hardware (4ghz prescott is a power hog- Tagan 480w is almost not enough for it!!!), bios tweaks, carefully route all cables and wires and ensure optimum airflow. |
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QUOTE(SGT76 @ Dec 30 2010, 10:47 PM) Added on December 30, 2010, 10:48 pm Running 4ghz all the way 24/7, no cranking down. I was surprised too at the power usage. This PSU has served me well in the past on my old Athlon 7750BE system (overclocked 3.16Ghz) with 8800GT, 3 hard disks, 1 DVD burner + 2 120cm fans. But it's marginal for this system. I have stripped this rig down to the basics- 1 hd, 1 cd/ dvd drive, 3 120cm fans, 6800GS card, SB Live! sound card. QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Jan 9 2011, 01:10 AM) my system is pentium4 3.0E Ghz, currently my best o/c is 3.6Ghz only (15x240Mhz) on AI7 mobo with 2 GB Gskill PC4000.want to go to 4Ghz, i think maybe it is my psu limiting me to go further.my psu is rated true power at 450W, must be my GC taking drawing alot of power, it's a HD4650.What you guys think? What is your temp of proc. and mobo ? AI7 mosfet area is hot when in operating mode. |
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 9 2011, 11:01 AM) Agree,my mobo is seeing some fluctuations too!Added on January 9, 2011, 6:29 pm QUOTE(edministrator @ Dec 22 2010, 09:58 AM) the Gflops in intelburntest for the P4 is 4Gflops from the screenshot. My X3220 oc'ed to 3.3Ghz is 44Gflops... Just tested with Intel Burn Test, manage to get 4.6Gflops on my 3.6GHz clock. Yesterday tried with Hot Pursuit, my proc and GC are unpresentable. This post has been edited by raymond5105: Jan 9 2011, 06:29 PM |
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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Jan 10 2011, 06:30 PM) yeah i know that. last time my pwm temp can shoot up to 90 deg cels bcoz no proper exhaust fans but now my pwm temp reads around 53~58 lor.i did slap some mosfet heatsink onto it and improve the exhaust fans by using 80mm panaflo fans.as for my proc temp is around 52-56deg cels.so i dun think it is my proc temp either.im using CM hyper6 for the HSF.i did noticed the vcore fluctuate a lot. (between 1.36~1.39). Your fluctuation is considering minimal one, mine one could even fluctuate more than yours. |
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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Jan 11 2011, 04:46 PM) you also using ai7 mobo? maybe it is ur mosfet overheating. once that happens the efficiency of the voltage supplied will drop seriously. I used to have an AI7 mobo. No doubt it's a good mobo but the only draw back on the mobo is on their msfet. Voltage supply i can't remember clearly. The mobo can o/c as good as my IC7-G. |
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@dlwl ,what about it's reliability? I'm worry with its' reliability.
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Jan 13 2011, 10:28 PM
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SSD on old skool rig,any one?
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