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 Astro B.yond V2.0, HD Content Available

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post Jan 10 2010, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(tks203 @ Jan 10 2010, 12:33 AM)
Mine just blank screen without any message. So if it is not HDCP issue, what else could it be? It works with PS3 and AC Ryan Playon HD over HDMI without issue.

This kind of problem really drive you nut, becos you don't know for sure who to blame. Is there any other way to test whether it is the HDCP issue? Anybody know which bluray title is HDCP protected, so that I can try it on my TV?
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Maybe your TV set is 720p only? Maybe it cannot support 1080i?

Another possibility is TV cannot support 50Hz signal in HD. If that's the case, you can join the club of people who have TVs that cannot support 50Hz signal. Only option for testing? Get a PAL PS3 or Region B BD player from somewhere and try to see if TV can recognize. Thing is up until now, everything in Malaysia uses 60Hz HD (i.e. anything that derived from NTSC system, like Asian PS3 and Region A BD players). Astro is probably the first to introduce 50Hz HD output in the country.

QUOTE(TVSPY @ Jan 10 2010, 12:46 AM)
You are watching the correct TV input channel?
It's not the same as the component channel
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Possible also.

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post Jan 10 2010, 02:55 AM

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Forget Cartoon Network HD. CN sister channel Boomerang also never bring in, want main channel HD oredi. Cartoon Network should just rename to "Ben 10 and mind-effing cartoons channel". Since they show Ben 10 like 10 times a day. So frequent that I fed up of Ben 10 already (doesn't help that Ben 10 show format doesn't click with my preferred cartoon show format either). If not showing Ben 10 then it's showing weird stuff. That I couldn't be bothered with because it doesn't make sense. I want to see Boomerang on Astro's channel list first before they even attempt "Ben 10 HD" channel.

As for Disney HD, well, so far only available in US. No Asia feed yet.

I do want Discovery HD tho. Mythbusters in HD = win!

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post Jan 12 2010, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(tks203 @ Jan 12 2010, 09:23 AM)
I am also connect to my TV via component cable. How to select HD settings: 576p? The HD selection is not allow without HDMI connected in my decoder.
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Problem with B.yond at this moment is that they don't allow you to select anything but 576i through component and composite. They should at least allow progressive through component.

My features wish list:
- 60Hz pull-up (because many pre-2006 early HDTVs, cheapo LCD monitors and TVs bought from US/Japan only support 60Hz HD).
- 576p (EDTV) through component.

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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jan 12 2010, 12:16 PM)
As for your first wish...buy a new TV lah...cheapo only la nowadays.
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Like I said before, my original wish for this function is so I can use a AVerMedia HDMI card which is apparently HDCP-compatible ( http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVerTV/produc...ail.aspx?Id=482 ) and integrate the b.yond into HTPC environment. Said card can apparently oblige Astro b.yond HDCP protection (i.e. check PC to see if monitor, soundcard, etc. HDCP compliant and allow signal through or deny signal, compared to BlackMagic Intensity/Intensity Pro which outright deny signal). Problem is, said card only release for US market, no Europe/Asia equivalent, and they made very sure it can't be used in PAL countries by limiting it's rate support to 60Hz, 24fps and 30fps. I already had long talk with AVerMedia support people.

And for new TV, yeah, cheap. RM2499 minimum (need to buy 32" minimum because need 2-3 HDMI ports, one component port, one composite port and one VGA port. And I insist only on Sharp brand because I'm most familiar with Sharp TVs, and TVs from Sharp with that many connections only come in sizes of 32" or higher)... I currently still pokai from buying the PS3 and then a PSP Go (because of PS3 remote play) and then a PSP3000 (US model because stupid local PSP Go cannot load comic book reader- region-free my foot) and that useless Intensity Pro. Plus room no more space sweat.gif

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Jan 12 2010, 01:09 PM)
IIRC the Avermedia HD-DVR card doesn't do hardware encoding right?
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Yeah, but the thing is it supposedly supports HDCP, and AVerMedia includes a plugin that allows the card to work with WinMCE. Anything. As long as I can get smooth picture onto the Dell 245WFP, CPU load consistently 80%-90% I also dun care.
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jan 12 2010, 07:05 PM)
What the use of PS3? games expensive lo.
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Final Fantasy XIII -.-

QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 12 2010, 07:59 PM)
just take la learning package..
for me, i will take learning package+fun+variety..
wajib for me...  tongue.gif

sports don't care la... tak minat....  blink.gif
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For me I took News (only for Australia Network)+Learning+Fun+Variety+Metro(primarily for BBCE, but also got watch CI and Discovery Turbo)

Yeah, I'm a knowledge freak sweat.gif

QUOTE(l_berd @ Jan 12 2010, 08:26 PM)
dark grey color..
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Afaik, only dark grey color.
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post Jan 13 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(utellme @ Jan 13 2010, 03:22 PM)
sorry to say, even we can reach 8200 members, it still not going make any different, bcos ASTRO have more than 1 mil active clients.
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Make any difference for what? The list's primary purpose is to boast that we already have b.yond sweat.gif

The thing that Astro spies should pick up from the list is the problems we're having i.e. HDMI randomly refuse to work when switch on, random component/HDMI video problem, sound volume problem, favorites difficult to use, want automatic channel rounding back, etc.

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post Jan 13 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Jan 13 2010, 03:33 PM)
they might be send to africa as astro may consider setting up broadcast business over there
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Considering what happened to Measat 1 (not called Measat anymore already. Change name to Africasat 1!), very possible.

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 13 2010, 04:31 PM)
yes.. i feel really shocked now!
how come even composite also can be HDCP....
My TV card does not have component input...
just have s-video, Composite, normal UHF/VHF antenna and FM radio...
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Depends on TV card. Those which support "Macrovision" will deny recording. The following works for me:

B.yond -(Composite)-> VCR -(RF)-> TV tuner/video capture card. The RF actually goes to a splitter which connect to tuner card and my TV as well.

VCC is my old four year old FlyDVB-T Duo. Although to be fair got strange low-to-high pitch emitting in audio track of video randomly. I suspect it's due to interference from RF, my VCR is set to transmit at UHF channel 49. Granted, I cannot get stereo sound if I do that, but meh. Stereo sound can recreate using appropriate plugin.

At least, no problem recording some new Tama & Friends spinoff from Astro Ceria for a friend in the US last Saturday.

The only solution to your problem as I see it is to try to locate a "Macrovision remover". Good luck, it's kinda hard to find and may be expensive, and I dunno it's legal status in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 13 2010, 05:37 PM)
so you mean, my TV Card does not support HDCP.., isn't it?
and what is macrovision.. and what type of tv card that does not supoort Macrovision...
I really confuesd now and tomorrow I will ask the shop where I can change to other tv card....
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No, Macrovision is an older kind of copy protection that's used for Analog. Normally only use on NTSC signals in US. It's actual name is Analog Protection System or Copyguard. Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_Protection_System

Normally not used outside US. Guess things changed sad.gif

As for TV card that does not support Macrovision, well, very much older cards. Like from 5-10 years ago (i.e. I know my PowerMacintosh G3's card apparently doesn't support Macrovision, but the pulses on the picture will be somewhat visible). My Lifeview I'm not really sure why it works.

Have you also tried using different program to capture, say Virtualdub or anything else? Also, maybe only certain channels copy protected? I so far only try recording Astro Ceria because of a friend from the US who's crazy about Tama and Friends.

Also, dun need to return. All you need to do is figure out how to built a macrovision remover or where to buy. I cannot talk about that since I'm not sure of the legal status, but can say: Google Is Your Friend.

Good Luck!

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jan 13 2010, 06:19 PM)
yes... I have tried with my old Max decoder...
everything was just fine....


Added on January 13, 2010, 6:23 pm

yes.. I have tried with other software.., only Corel Video Studio can support that Macrovision I think...
maybe I sill just use Corel Video studio to record my tv programmes...
Just Corel video studio cannot set the timer to record...
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VirtualDub can work?

Edit: NVM, virtualdub no timer support also... Hmmm... Mediaportal can?

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Jan 14 2010, 12:16 PM)
RM25/month for AOD is OK if you have time to watch and like TVB drama. I think normal price is about RM4x. But remember to cancel it after 2 month else the price will back to normal.....ALSO remember AOD is NOT HD. TVB HK is showing their drama in HD but when AOD will start HD  sweat.gif   blush.gif
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Better thing to do is to go around shopping complexes like Giant. Usually the salesperson there very desperate, offer good deal like free decoder. Just don't take their word seriously if you ask about future channels and they say yes...

Then after install decoder immediately call Astro and ask for b.yond upgrade. Should be cheaper.
QUOTE(gaarared @ Jan 14 2010, 12:33 PM)
Someone said its end of this month..
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Most accepted answer is end of this month.

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QUOTE(kuekss @ Jan 14 2010, 02:01 PM)
y u know discovery HD on the way??
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This better be correct. My CBeebies and Boomerang not yet come even 1 year later... Instead lose BBCE pulak vmad.gif mad.gif

QUOTE(ady_1413 @ Jan 14 2010, 02:09 PM)
You know wikipedia has the reliability of a broken car, rite? I dun trust information there that is "future" TBA info. Only info that is confirmed. For comparison, Wikipedia also said that Boomerang is already available in Malaysia... Rite... Tell me which pay TV carrying it, I'll sign up immediately. Expensive also never mind, can take bank loan.

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QUOTE(ady_1413 @ Jan 14 2010, 02:14 PM)
bbce dah ganti ngan The Biography Channel
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Biography schmiography. Yet another "home makeover channel". Give me BBC knowledge or the one of the other Nat Geo channels instead.

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jan 14 2010, 03:07 PM)
I also have this problem firstly, but after updated firmware to latest version, the problem solved.
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If after update still cannot means that TV either dun have HDCP support or HDCP chip got problem. Call TV service hotline.

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 14 2010, 03:58 PM)
Juz one question... does a long run of coaxial cable can affect the signal?
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Yes, but still not as bad as using splitter or joining cable poorly.

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QUOTE(munky @ Jan 14 2010, 08:56 PM)
1. Try pressing the OK button instead of going to the tv guide. The disadvantage is that u can only see 1 channel at a time  blush.gif


Added on January 14, 2010, 8:56 pmoh yeah the OK button works as info function as well
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Dunno about Oct 2009 firmware, but on Dec 2009 firmware pressing the TV button brings out an awesome guide that can be navigated using the arrow buttons on the remote.
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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 14 2010, 09:16 PM)
Yes... I meant that i don't need to change the channel when i input the number to browse the TV guide....
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Ah okay. I think they thought the new feature will replace the one removed.
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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 15 2010, 12:16 AM)
That's y i tried it doesnt work, i missd the 1-3 part...  doh.gif
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Tried it. Had to repeat about 2-3 times when "boot" is showing to get response, but working in the end. Although there was nothing to update.

But after doing that, found I cannot access HBO HD anymore. Say I not subscribed to package cry.gif

QUOTE(vyzc @ Jan 15 2010, 12:21 AM)
Did you guys use a Cal-Lab lightning isolator with your previous decoders? I was told by my installer to bypass the lightning isolator when connecting the coaxial cable to the new decoder (to prevent/minimize signal loss I suppose). Hence, my other audio/visual equipment are at risk from lightning strikes to the satellite dish at the moment sad.gif

Anyone with experience in this?
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Nope. When I'm going out I just unscrew the dish cable from the decoder tongue.gif

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QUOTE(TVSPY @ Jan 16 2010, 01:21 AM)
HDMI does not support 5.1 you can only get 5.1 via a digital audio coax.

and there is no dolby on SD channels in fact dolby only happens on some programmes on HD.

if you getting "surround sound" and you aren't using digital audio coax then your amp is simulating it via an effect and it isn't true
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HDMI can support 5.1 (can support 7.1 max), but only in PCM. So Dolby cannot get through HDMI, but PCM audio can. The Astro decoder need to decode the 5.1 audio and send it through HDMI. But Astro being Astro, lazy, just send either DD bitstream or 2.0 PCM stream straight from satellite signal to HDMI, no option to decode dd bitstream into 5.1 PCM audio and send through HDMI.

QUOTE(BeastX @ Jan 15 2010, 06:23 PM)
High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection ..... A handshake of source and display is required.. 1 source and 2 displays, not possible.

unless HDCP is not enabled on A B.yond

u also can use a HDCP stripper to by-pass the protection.
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It's possible to split, but very expensive... Need HDMI Splitter that support HDCP, then for every 15M of HDMI cable, a repeater (which must also support HDCP). Alternatively you can use a HDMI to CAT5e converter and a CAT5e to HDMI converter instead of repeaters (which of course need to support HDCP as well). Not really worth the money. Better to try request sub b.yond decoders than try to split. That's why you see a lot of people forgoing HD on second TV and still using poor man RF output with a AV to RF modulator instead to split from the b.yond box. RF modulator=~RM15-50 (depend on whether quality of image is important to you), reuse back old cables. HDMI splitter+repeater=~RM1000++, need new cabling and power points be installed every 15M.

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