we are in great financial position...its good to be a gonner...

This post has been edited by super messi: Jan 15 2010, 06:45 PM

yah,clichy and fab ..back in to squad..

With Sol back in the team, Vermalean could push up as a defensive mid. hehe

Well, you are entitled your opinion but I do not agree (believe many others will disagree too )

The main reason is simply because Verm+Gallas has been working fine, why break something that is not broken?

I understand the worry in the Song's short absence but we should put a midfielder (or a DMC) in his position, not putting a DC into a DMC position (although sometimes AW likes to rotate like this - I still remember Cygan playing LW )

Any reason why you think it's good to have Verm to be pushed up as DMC?

vermy on DM, cant risk it now, we are half way in the title race, maybe we can try it at half time when we are leading bolton 4-0.

Precisely, i don't know where did you guys get the idea that Vermy should play DM. He's untested in that position and frankly, its not easy to suddenly change a players natural position to DM, especially to midfield where the main movement on the team hinges on the few players. Just because Vermy's gotten a few goal from open play doesn't automatically make him a DM.

In any case, Fabregas would be used as the central midfielder with reduced attacking play while Diaby also could play that position. And then Nasri can shift to the centre while Rosicky take the flanks.

we are all actually the game, FM
we can switch gallas to a striker as well

Haha. Im not saying he should play as DM, but Im just saying that it would be interesting to see Vermaelean gets involved in more attacks since he has quite a fearsome shots and headers. He would also be a solid wall infront of the back 4. He's already solid with Gallas.

This post has been edited by buzzfizz: Jan 15 2010, 10:35 PM

what about his passes? can he distribute the ball well to the cesc, nasri or other player?its hard to find someone who can fit in as DM very well, not even denilson.coz different player has different style of play/
still i dont believe he can do well in DM just because he do well in DC. not until he is really tested to be a DM.

Hmmmm... since Song is gone off to ACON (lol akon?) the only suitable DM is diaby. :|

just play diaby at the dm role, ask him to be more discipline and don't move up to much..cesc is back, he can run the show now, diaby just need to protect the backline.

I'd be more than happy if Vermaelen just stick back and do his job. Winning the league requires us to concede the least. There's no point of defender scoring goals when he can't do his principal duty of defending. Honestly, we will have to concede far less goals, especially from set piece if we wish to win something.

As for defensive/central midfield, i think Cesc or even Diaby can play that position, only if Denilson is out for a prolong period. Else, Denilson is possibly the best bet. But in a blink of an eye, Song will be back. That's if Cameroon fail to do well. I think they already lost 1 game. Another lose would mean Song will be back early. I'm sure deep down you guys wish Cameroon to lose, im pretty sure. Haha.

Haha.

Maybe

Let cameroon lose and Song come back to us. Nobody give a dam to ANC. Hehe

have u guys seen diaby's ability in judging the ball in the air? he sucks at it. even hes tall but his anticipation of the ball on air is quite off... he rarely can hit the ball with his head ( dont count the own goal vs manu, tht also shows tht he cant really control the ball with his head).
this would be a disaster if the opposing team play long balls from the defence straight to their attackers. diaby wont get to nail the ball or break the long ball attacks.
vermy could do well in DM. since his ability to read the game, judge the path of the ball on air or on the ground, tough tackling and so on.. but one thing tht ppl will not agree is because he already part of the high flying defence. we wont risk the defence in order to fill the void left by song. so there must be another way..
denilson is the closest tht we have now.. also not really good in the air..
or maybe.. we will see nasri playing a more central role but not as a DM, as another CM which will make us playing 3 CM and distribute defensive duties fairly among them.
or switching to tactics such as all out attacking.. score many goals, wont worry bout the goal conceded as long as can score more than conceding..

i just hope that roSICKY will play a blinder and wont try any cheeky pass anymore...he is a bit off right now, when he is on form WOW!!! i hope he will get into form soon, cuz we need it badly now. i love his sliding tackles.

Between Vermaelen & Diaby, Wenger would play Diaby as a DM.

But IMHO, Diaby can't distribute the ball well from that position and his tackles are sometimes clumsy. Diaby is most dangerous when he prowls infront of opponents' defense. His quick long feet, his deadly passes in the final third and his powerful shot make him a dangerous forward rather than a DM. But, well, the Prof knows.

As for Vermaelen, I've said it before that I don't really like it when both him and/or Gallas are too eager to storm forward unnecessarily. Yes, they are goal scoring CBs. Heck, we even almost had a goal with one of them assisting the other earlier this season. But their attacking tendencies have left us open at the back a number of times already. Could be one of the reasons why we've been conceding goals, this.

As for Vermaelen as a DM, well, Vermy+Willie-G pairing is a fortress we won't risk taking down. Although I do think it's an interesting idea.

It would be interesting to see it happen

Wenger succesfully turned Henry into a striker so why not Vermaelean into a DM?

Haha.

Yes, it's indeed interesting to see good things happen to Arsenal.

However, I failed to see you backing up your claim on having Verm "as defensive midfielder".

Although I do not feel it's suitable, I do see some potential in Verm in a more attacking position, such as DM.

The current problem we are having now are:

1. Verm + Gallas combination works just fine
2. There is not better (or equal) partner for Gallas - not even Campbell
3. Not only the quality matters, we also lack of CD in quantity. Having Verm to play as DM will make our super thin defenders into ultra thin defenders


Having weighed the pro and cons, my conclusion is that Verm should stay as CD and let someone with natural skill of DM or CM to slot in for Song's absence..... unless the above 3 points are taken care of.

Not really. Arsene has always regarded Titi as a striker even though in his early days he played more on the wing. When Titi was at Monaco and Juve, Arsene did contact Titi and advised him to ask his manager to put him up front as a striker.

If possible, grab a copy of Titi's biography... it gives a pretty good perspective regarding Titi's early days in Monaco and the dark period in Juve.
http://www.amazon.com/Thierry-Henry-Biogra...r/dp/1844542815

Vermy is our best CB and his attributes all point towards being a CB. We have no one who is as good as he is in the air, so why should Arsene dismantle the successful pairing of Gallas-Vermy, and move the latter up front? Sol's arrival doesn't mean that he will immediately fit in the first team and there's no need to risk an unproven pairing of Sol-Gallas.