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 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2

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post Aug 11 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Aug 9 2010, 11:13 AM)
Agree with you. I think most company buyback shares as a last resort to support their share price and not for the purpose of share dividend. I personally dont like share dividend because I would have to worry about the odd lots thingy.
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post Aug 12 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 11 2010, 11:17 PM)
You will love it once you know the power of compounding gain
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computation with 20% return per annum ? that is way too optimistic..



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post Aug 12 2010, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 11 2010, 11:17 PM)
You will love it once you know the power of compounding gain
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I dont mind dividend compounding but not odd lots tongue.gif
I think most of the wealth creation plan that I saw, only use max 7% p.a. for illustration.
Using like 20% p.a. is probably for the warren buffet type of ppl biggrin.gif
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post Aug 18 2010, 07:59 AM

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CIMB PAPER - WIMAX NEWS


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post Aug 18 2010, 08:16 AM

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http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../shitx/Article/

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WESSEX Water plc, the British unit of YTL Power International Bhd, has started testing a Volkswagen Beetle car that is being powered by gas from human waste.

It is the first such test being done in the UK.

"Waste flushed down toilets of just 70 homes in Bristol is enough to power the Bio-Bug for a year, based on an annual mileage of 10,000 miles," the British firm said in a statement posted on its website.

GENeco, a Wessex Water-owned company, imported specialist equipment to treat gas generated at Bristol sewage treatment works in Avonmouth to power the VW Beetle in a way that does not affect its performance.

GENeco general manager Mohammed Saddiq said that methane from sewage sludge can be used as an alternative energy source, and is an innovative way of powering company vehicles.

"We decided to power a vehicle on the gas, offering a sustainable alternative to using fossil fuels. If you were to drive the car, you wouldn't know it was powered by biogas as it performs just like any conventional car. It is probably the most sustainable car around," he said.

To use biogas without affecting vehicle performance, the gas needs to be treated under a process called biogas upgrading. Carbon dioxide will be separated from the biogas using special equipment.

If all the biogas produced at Avonmouth were converted to run cars, it would prevent the emission of around 19,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide.

Mohammed said that while waste flushed down the toilets in homes in the city provides power for the Bio-Bug, it will not be long before further energy can also be produced from food waste recycled at its sewage works.

"It will mean that both human waste and food waste will be put to good use in a sustainable way that diverts waste from going to landfills," he said.

YTL bought Wessex in 2002 for US$1.7 billion (RM5.35 billion) from Azurix Europe Ltd, a unit of bankrupt energy trader Enron Corp.

Read more: YTL UK unit tests sewage as alternative energy source http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../#ixzz0wubsM6MM
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post Aug 18 2010, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Aug 12 2010, 11:54 PM)
I dont mind dividend compounding but not odd lots  tongue.gif
I think most of the wealth creation plan that I saw, only use max 7% p.a. for illustration.
Using like 20% p.a. is probably for the warren buffet type of ppl  biggrin.gif
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7% p.a. can be easily done, esp with so many div counters at this rate. No risk involve if you put everything to high div counters. 10% is very possible, but 20% is doable. I'm on my 4th year working and been growing close to 20% each year
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post Aug 19 2010, 05:57 PM

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Results is today. biggrin.gif

Good
1. Net profit increased RM128 mil compared to previous quarter.
2. Seraya Power profits(not revenue) almost equals Wessex Water. Only RM5 mil difference.
3. YoY profts increased by 20% if one-off deferred tax effects were removed from FYE2009

Bad
1. Only proposed 1.875 sens dividend. Keep fingers crossed for final dividend announcement since they mention this as an interim only.
2. Shares outstanding as expected shot up to 7.1bil shares or added 300 mil shares since the previous quarter.


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post Aug 20 2010, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Aug 19 2010, 05:57 PM)
Results is today.  biggrin.gif

Good
1. Net profit increased RM128 mil compared to previous quarter.
2. Seraya Power profits(not revenue) almost equals Wessex Water. Only RM5 mil difference.
3. YoY profts increased by 20% if one-off deferred tax effects were removed from FYE2009

Bad
1. Only proposed 1.875 sens dividend. Keep fingers crossed for final dividend announcement since they mention this as an interim only.
2. Shares outstanding as expected shot up to 7.1bil shares or added 300 mil shares since the previous quarter.
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I better stop press SELL buttom. hmm.gif
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post Aug 20 2010, 08:15 AM

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Too bad dividend only 3.75% sad.gif
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post Aug 20 2010, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Aug 20 2010, 08:15 AM)
Too bad dividend only 3.75%  sad.gif
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probably reserving the cash to power up the Wimax..
seems like the main concentration now is on Wimax. Read some news saying that YTL comm will be spending 2.5b on the roll out of the Wimax (inclusive of IP calling) towards 4th Qtr. Obviously the 2.5b is coming from internal since YTLP is cash rich anyway..


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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:47 AM)
probably reserving the cash to power up the Wimax..
seems like the main concentration now is on Wimax. Read some news saying that YTL comm will be spending 2.5b on the roll out of the Wimax (inclusive of IP calling) towards 4th Qtr. Obviously the 2.5b is coming from internal since YTLP is cash rich anyway..
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Their EPS was 6 cents. Translates into whole year EPS of 24 cents if it is sustainable.
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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Aug 20 2010, 08:47 AM)
probably reserving the cash to power up the Wimax..
seems like the main concentration now is on Wimax. Read some news saying that YTL comm will be spending 2.5b on the roll out of the Wimax (inclusive of IP calling) towards 4th Qtr. Obviously the 2.5b is coming from internal since YTLP is cash rich anyway..
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Yeah the 2.5b capex has been bounced around since they started the project. But I feel this is just the starting capex, but yet to see any major cash outflows for this project yet.

YTL COMM related news today.

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post Sep 5 2010, 08:47 PM

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Anyone planning to sell off 6742 tomorrow?
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post Sep 6 2010, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(stupidbump @ Sep 5 2010, 08:47 PM)
Anyone planning to sell off 6742 tomorrow?
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Any reasons to sell it?
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post Sep 6 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Sep 6 2010, 09:21 AM)
Any reasons to sell it?
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how is the history yield so far from 2006-2010?
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post Sep 7 2010, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ost1007 @ Sep 6 2010, 02:32 PM)
how is the history yield so far from 2006-2010?
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Historical DY? Depends how much you paid for you share. But they normally pay minimum 50% of their EPS not including share dividends since 2006.
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post Sep 15 2010, 07:17 PM

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In less than 6 months' time, Genting Singapore price doubled. Short term price weakness should be fully exploited by investors. Afterall, best time to buy shares is when everyone is fearful.

I told someone here (you know who u r) a year ago Harta and Genting would outperform YTLP by miles but he was too self-focused trying to talk up the price of YTLP in this forum ;p Time just told u the truth. YTLP, while fundamentally ok, has very lousy ROE. In up economy like now, don't be sentimental and cling on to a stagnant steamroller. Intelligent investor should know when to rebalance portfolio for higher incremental return

QUOTE(calmwater @ Feb 25 2010, 10:10 AM)
Genting is down 15% since casino opened for business recently. Why?

(i) Could be it was pushed up too high ever since they got the casino license.

(ii) Singaporeans have to pay s$100 per visit to enter the casino. They want Genting to make money from foreigners and not from singaporeans.  shakehead.gif

(ii) For now it is the only casino, what will happen when their rival Vegas Sands opens for business on April 27th.  shakehead.gif

For the above reasons I won't touch Genting Singapore.
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post Sep 18 2010, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kchong @ Sep 15 2010, 07:17 PM)
I told someone here (you know who u r) a year ago Harta and Genting would outperform YTLP by miles but he was too self-focused trying to talk up the price of YTLP in this forum ;p Time just told u the truth. YTLP, while fundamentally ok, has very lousy ROE. In up economy like now, don't be sentimental and cling on to a stagnant steamroller. Intelligent investor should know when to rebalance portfolio for higher incremental return
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I bought 3,500 units YTL Pwr at RM 2.1X in Apr'2011. Just sold it yesterday when she hits RM 2.39 making a 10.XX% cap gain (inc divvies). 10.XX % gain in 5mths period, not to shabby I'll say ol'chap.

The above post is one of the serendipitous thing that prompt me to sell this laggard counter.

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post Sep 18 2010, 09:11 PM

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Aiks... Don't be influenced by anyone in your investment judgement (me included). Everyone has different investment style and risk appetite. Hope you've found your sweet spot. Don't let anyone in this forum to talk you into believing YTLP (and Francis Yeoh) is the next best thing in life after god.

While 10% cap gain in 5 months time is impressive, are you aware that YTLP actually under-performed KLCI? You could hve invested in an index-linked fund (much lower risk) and yet reaped higher return compared to YTLP. Hard fact to swallow but it's true. Btw, if you keep your money in FD instead of rebalancing your portfolio for higher incremental return, it's better off staying invested in YTLP. Happy investing.

QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 18 2010, 03:38 PM)
I bought 3,500 units YTL Pwr at RM 2.1X in Apr'2011. Just sold it yesterday when she hits RM 2.39 making a 10.XX% cap gain (inc divvies). 10.XX % gain in 5mths period, not to shabby I'll say ol'chap.

The above post is one of the serendipitous thing that prompt me to sell this laggard counter. 

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Added on September 19, 2010, 9:45 amAiks... Somebody copied my portfolio after proudly claiming he won't follow what I wrote in this forum about RCE, Harta, Genting etc. Hipocrite


QUOTE(darkknight81 @ May 3 2010, 10:30 AM)
Totally agree. Thats y in my previous post i have mentioned it on the depreciation of POUND STERLING. i told calm not to worry "Too much" on pound sterling against RM as MALAYSIA does not necessary in a better state than UK....A lot of stuffs does not unfold yet for MALAYSIA  brows.gif

Plan to buy some more YTLPOWER SOON  thumbup.gif after i got my next dividend. It will be perfect if my RCECAP fly next month and i can sell it off to buy more YTLPOWER.
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post Sep 19 2010, 03:57 PM

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From the financial report, year 2009, the group has made a lot of decision, that decision would definitely impact for the coming years.
Let's check out,

http://steven-moo.blogspot.com/2010/09/ytl...tional-bhd.html

I wonder how does 30.06.2010 financial report looks like.


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