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 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2

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post Jan 30 2010, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 29 2010, 11:18 PM)
Yup, is a property development company.  I think I will give it a skip too because I have enough of Gamuda and HSL.
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Sorry OT A bit. Proton last nite glance through my stock performance guide on TWS again and i think can buy some for speculate on CPO uptrend. But the company overall growth for the past ten years was not so convincing. So decided to hold some for speculation only. Whereas i think KPJ has a great potential instead.

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post Jan 30 2010, 01:13 PM

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I bought YTLpowr @2.19 for dividend play...Hope I can be a major shareholder like darkknnight one day, but don't know when.... :S

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QUOTE(simonmada @ Jan 30 2010, 02:13 PM)
I bought YTLpowr @2.19 for dividend play...Hope I can be a major shareholder like darkknnight one day, but don't know when.... :S
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For your information this counter move very slow or you can even said it does not move most of the time. So if you expect high return then this counter might not suit you.

rclxub.gif Since when i become major shareholders ?

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post Jan 30 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 30 2010, 01:19 PM)
For your information this counter move very slow or you can even said it does not move most of the time. So if you expect high return then this counter might not suit you.

rclxub.gif Since when i become major shareholders ?
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I mentioned for dividend play right? I know it moves like turtle biggrin.gif

You're the major shareholder among us tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2010, 09:13 PM

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ya accumulating YTLPOWR oso, target is one year 4000 units......

if can reach 20% of wat darknight is having, veli happy oledi
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post Jan 31 2010, 08:59 PM

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i want to be 30 major share holder~~~~
until that time can everyday sleep at home kiao ka liao~~~
hahaha~~~
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post Jan 31 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 30 2010, 08:19 AM)
Sorry OT A bit. Proton last nite glance through my stock performance guide on TWS again and i think can buy some for speculate on CPO uptrend. But the company overall growth for the past ten years was not so convincing. So decided to hold some for speculation only. Whereas i think KPJ has a great potential instead.
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Yup, my itchy fingers already clicked another batch of KPJ after shares split n bonus. laugh.gif

I will buy more if it dip further. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Yeah, YTLp Friday closing was still holding well 2.18.... thumbup.gif after CI dropped about 50 points from high of 1308... It is still as hard as rock... laugh.gif


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QUOTE(ngwei2402 @ Jan 31 2010, 08:59 PM)
i want to be 30 major share holder~~~~
until that time can everyday sleep at home kiao ka liao~~~
hahaha~~~
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If dare to dream, you have a chance.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 31 2010, 10:30 PM)
Yup, my itchy fingers already clicked another batch of KPJ after shares split n bonus. laugh.gif

I will buy more if it dip further.  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Yeah, YTLp Friday closing was still holding well 2.18.... thumbup.gif after CI dropped about 50 points from high of 1308... It is still as hard as rock... laugh.gif


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If dare to dream, you have a chance.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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hahaha, yup really rock solid. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 3 2010, 05:15 PM

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just asking no need to be right or wrong,

can YTLP be like GENTING or PBBANK, buy 100 lot now and keep for 30 years and become millionaire later.
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post Feb 3 2010, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Feb 3 2010, 06:15 PM)
just asking no need to be right or wrong,

can YTLP be like GENTING or PBBANK, buy 100 lot now and keep for 30 years and become millionaire later.
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I can assure you is NO. wink.gif First of all we must understand the nature of business they are doing. YTLP as i have mentioned earlier is highly regulated. I would treat it as something better than FD only unless they bought up few more assets at cheap bargain like Wessex water which i think is quite impossible. Power Seraya will not bring much growth to YTLP compare with WW.

YTLPOWER must make sure they use their RM 9 BILLION cash wisely for next acquisition as it will determine its future growth very much.

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Feb 3 2010, 05:15 PM)
just asking no need to be right or wrong,

can YTLP be like GENTING or PBBANK, buy 100 lot now and keep for 30 years and become millionaire later.
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No, it grow slow.
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post Feb 3 2010, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Feb 3 2010, 05:15 PM)
just asking no need to be right or wrong,

can YTLP be like GENTING or PBBANK, buy 100 lot now and keep for 30 years and become millionaire later.
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Grow 5x in 30 years? Include dividend or not? I would say it is not impossible, but quite tough.
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post Feb 3 2010, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Feb 3 2010, 05:15 PM)
just asking no need to be right or wrong,

can YTLP be like GENTING or PBBANK, buy 100 lot now and keep for 30 years and become millionaire later.
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In 30 years, a millionaire would be the same as a thousandnaire today. laugh.gif
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post Feb 4 2010, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 3 2010, 10:41 PM)
Grow 5x in 30 years? Include dividend or not? I would say it is not impossible, but quite tough.
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100lots he is referring to 100,000shares or 10,000 shares ?

If 100,000 shares i can quite confirmed we can be a millionaire by that time including dividends collected. If 10,000 i will say hard lol.

Growth is there but look at this few years growth for ytlpower is really slow i can say. Unless there are few more enron case like 2002 which they
can acquire cheap asset.

But if you really observe YTLP past performance you can see that current EPS has gained more than 100% after 2002. EPS before 2002 is around 8 cents only, but after acquisition of Wessex water its earning per share has been growing to around 20 cents Year to date. If this trends continue of course the growth rate is high. But so far i can say the acquisition of power seraya will not bring in such growth rate to the company compare with WW.

I am afraid we might not see that type of growth rate in future for YTLP anymore as the ENRON case is really rare and if similar opportunity happen again we also not sure YTLP manage to grab it or not sad.gif .

One more thing is during 2002 YTLPOWER is quite small size compare to now with market capitalization of around 12 billion. So any new acquisition will not be so significant compare to 2002.

In conclusion, YTLP is definitely worth to be keep for dividend and potential growth. But we cannot solely depends on HIM.

Correct me if i am wrong notworthy.gif

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i think it's a really good counter. but it's moving so so so so slowly. My fren invested since 13 years old till now (23). well, he only has 1 lot. There was once he got 1 lot of the ytlp warrant for free @ 80 cents. lol. so, in the long run i think it will be a good counter to invest in
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post Feb 5 2010, 11:36 AM

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everyone is dropping, but ytlpower still stand straight straight at 2.18
deng~~~hahaha~~~
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post Feb 5 2010, 11:55 AM

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Blogger's Note: Currency crisis… in Britain? We've been watching the pound sterling take a dive over the last couple of days, not just against the euro, but against the much-maligned dollar. We found the following article on the BBC website. And Gordon Brown is still blaming America for the problems of the UK economy. We think our friend Merryn Somerset Webb got it right in yesterday's TFN contribution.    Baltimore — (TFN):The pound has fallen to an all-time low against the euro after weak manufacturing data underscored a gloomy outlook for the UK economy. Sterling fell to 75.86 pence per euro, its weakest since the single currency was introduced in 1999.  The pound also hit a 10-month low versus the dollar at $1.9485.  After a strong year in 2007, the pound is expected to weaken this year as interest rates come down and the UK economy slows. The pound hit a 26-year high against the dollar last year, above $2.


lol BEWARE of british pound crisis.

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post Feb 6 2010, 08:17 AM

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Listing Circular
LISTING'S CIRCULAR NO. L/Q : 55987 OF 2010
Company Name
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YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL BHD
Stock Name
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YTLPOWR
Date Announced
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04/02/2010

Subject
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YTLPOWR-(I) EXCHANGE OF YTL POWER FINANCE (CAYMAN) LIMITED'S 5 -YEAR ZERO COUPON GUARANTEED EXCHANGEABLE BONDS 2005/2010 INTO 29,827,954 NEW ORDINARY SHARES ("EXCHANGE OF BONDS")

(II) EXERCISE OF 619,337 WARRANTS 2008/2018 (“EXERCISE”)

Contents
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Kindly be advised that the abovementioned Company’s additional 30,447,291 new ordinary shares of RM0.50 each issued as follows:-

(i) 29,827,954 new ordinary shares arising from the aforesaid Exchange of Bonds; and

(ii) 619,337 new ordinary shares arising from the aforesaid Exercise

will be granted listing and quotation with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 8 February 2010.

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post Feb 6 2010, 05:43 PM

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So what is that mean? We can get free warrant?
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post Feb 7 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(BrendaChee @ Feb 6 2010, 06:43 PM)
So what is that mean? We can get free warrant?
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EPS was being diluted. So might see share price drops tomolo.

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