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 YTL POWER INTERNATIONAL, VERSION 2

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jasontoh
post Jan 27 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 27 2010, 08:26 AM)
The bloody pos man asked me to meet him this morning after 10 am to collect some of my mail as yesterday he is too "BUSY"  shakehead.gif

I always collect my ytl power cheque by myself if wait for the pos man don know bila... I want to change my mailing address to my new home next week to try other pos man
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I can PM you my address, then I can help receive the cheque on your behalf
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post Jan 27 2010, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jan 27 2010, 10:24 AM)
I can PM you my address, then I can help receive the cheque  on your behalf
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then you send to me via post laju next time ? Still not yet reached kuching la doh.gif Its the statement from hwang dbs that i bought my tradewinds pulak....

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post Jan 27 2010, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 27 2010, 10:30 AM)
then you send to me via post laju next time ? Still not yet reached kuching la  doh.gif Its the statement from hwang dbs that i bought my tradewinds pulak....
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You can just ask Jason to bank it here and no need to post you to Kuching and have to pay outstation charges....
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post Jan 28 2010, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 27 2010, 11:57 PM)
You can just ask Jason to bank it here and no need to post you to Kuching and have to pay outstation charges....
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Good idea !!! notworthy.gif Jason agree kah? I trust you can do a good job tongue.gif

But cannot lar...that means he know all my particulars liaw sweat.gif and what more to say all my hwang dbs statement will be sent to him every months doh.gif

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post Jan 28 2010, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 28 2010, 08:02 AM)
Good idea !!!  notworthy.gif Jason agree kah? I trust you can do a good job  tongue.gif

But cannot lar...that means he know all my particulars liaw  sweat.gif and what more to say all my hwang dbs statement will be sent to him every months  doh.gif
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I have no problem with that? It's ok to see the statement also ma, can see what stocks you buy, so follow you
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post Jan 28 2010, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jan 28 2010, 09:54 AM)
I have no problem with that? It's ok to see the statement also ma, can see what stocks you buy, so follow you
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Haha i am sure you will not follow my stock picks as i mostly picked old man stocks laugh.gif
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post Jan 28 2010, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 28 2010, 09:28 AM)
Haha i am sure you will not follow my stock picks as i mostly picked old man stocks  laugh.gif
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I like old man stocks. Besides, I'm not high risk person. As long as 100% confirm earn money, I will only buy. Else, too scared to enter
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post Jan 28 2010, 02:36 PM

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according to Klse tracker, the Debt to equity ratio of YTLpower is 4.68, the highest I seen so far in my research, wonder why so high.
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post Jan 28 2010, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Jan 28 2010, 03:36 PM)
according to Klse tracker, the Debt to equity ratio of YTLpower is 4.68, the highest I seen so far in my research, wonder why so high.
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From their bonds and other borrowings. One thing we must make sure is ytlp is its ability to pay back their bonds on time to maintain their good ratings for their bonds else if their bonds being downgrade then they will perish due to interest hike of lower rating bonds.

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post Jan 28 2010, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 28 2010, 08:02 AM)
Good idea !!!  notworthy.gif Jason agree kah? I trust you can do a good job  tongue.gif

But cannot lar...that means he know all my particulars liaw  sweat.gif and what more to say all my hwang dbs statement will be sent to him every months  doh.gif
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Another way is use nominee account where the bank will charge you rm2.50 per dividend cheque and you will have the money in your account within 2-3 wording days after payment date.

But be reminded if you get share dividend/bonus/split.... nominee account will be days later doh.gif . Good thing is when you want convert/subscribe/take up rights, just call or e-mail to them and with small charges, you can have it done at your comfort home. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 28 2010, 11:53 PM)
Another way is use nominee account where the bank will charge you rm2.50 per dividend cheque and you will have the money in your account within 2-3 wording days after payment date.

But be reminded if you get share dividend/bonus/split.... nominee account will be days later doh.gif .  Good thing is when you want convert/subscribe/take up rights, just call or e-mail to them and with small charges, you can have it done at your comfort home.  thumbup.gif
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Sounds not bad. Thanks protonw
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ante5k @ Jan 26 2010, 05:27 AM)
some nominee account charges that for cashing dividend cheque received . the only way to avoid that is use direct trading account.
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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 26 2010, 10:48 PM)
Aiyo, YTLp cheque on my table since last week and I totally forgot I would received by post instead of credited to my account as usual by Maybank....(I transfered to CDS account dee).  Just opened mails and here they are.... icon_rolleyes.gif

Darkknight, still waiting.... yawn.gif  laugh.gif
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How do i transfer it to direct trading account? Do i have to remain with MBB? Please advise as I am contributing quite a fair bit to MBB earning for past few years....damn.....
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:25 PM

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For the previous discussion on the debt to equity ratio i mentioned on the depreciation of the asset from the equipments. If we look it the other way round it is one way to reduce tax for the company. For your information, depreciation required write off as expenses.

When a company spends money for a service or anything else that is short-lived, this expenditure is usually immediately tax deductible in some countries, and the company enjoys an immediate tax benefit.

To be eligible for depreciation, an asset must have two features:

1. it has a useful life beyond the taxable year (essentially why it was capitalized in the first place), and
2. it wears out, decays, declines in value due to natural causes, or is subject to exhaustion or obsolescence.

Therefore, when a company buys an asset that will last longer than one year, like a computer, car, or building, the company cannot immediately deduct the cost and enjoy an immediate large tax benefit. However, i believe most of the engineering parts for power plants need replacement within 1 year time hence they can enjoy tax benefits via this way.

YTLPOWER is expert in playing cash flow game.

Correct me if wrong.
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(cantdecide @ Jan 29 2010, 10:44 AM)
How do i transfer it to direct trading account?  Do i have to remain with MBB?  Please advise as I am contributing quite a fair bit to MBB earning for past few years....damn.....
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Mayban nominee only use nominee account, no way to transfer and they charge rm20 for each counter you transfer out.

If you want to stick with Maybank for whatever reasons, than can check with Maybank Investment Bank. I was told they charge standard rate or higher.

Others that offers CDS account are all broking firms like OSK, TA, Jupiter....

Sorry OT at YTL P.... blush.gif

My YTLP still in green, Darkknight still has not much change in your portfolio I am sure. But mine down few thousand everyday except yesterday... vmad.gif Ytlp is 10% of my total portfolio only....
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 29 2010, 01:43 PM)
Mayban nominee only use nominee account, no way to transfer and they charge rm20 for each counter you transfer out.

If you want to stick with Maybank for whatever reasons, than can check with Maybank Investment Bank. I was told they charge standard rate or higher.

Others that offers CDS account are all broking firms like OSK, TA, Jupiter....

Sorry OT at YTL P.... blush.gif

My YTLP still in green, Darkknight still has not much change in your portfolio I am sure.  But mine down few thousand everyday except yesterday... vmad.gif  Ytlp is 10% of my total portfolio only....
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My average buying price for YTLP is below 2.05 so is still very green for me tongue.gif the other counter i hold into is TWS which i bought at RM 2.79. Plan to top up some more of TWS SOON.
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post Jan 29 2010, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:56 PM)
My average buying price for YTLP is below 2.05 so is still very green for me  tongue.gif the other counter i hold into is TWS which i bought at RM 2.79. Plan to top up some more of TWS SOON.
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EPS manyak cantik thumbup.gif I should look into this counter as well... Just wondering its forward PE... this weekend must do some home work... hmm.gif

My unrealised ytlp was shrinking.... yawn.gif

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post Jan 29 2010, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 29 2010, 02:47 PM)
EPS manyak cantik thumbup.gif I should look into this counter as well... Just wondering its forward PE... this weekend must do some home work... hmm.gif

My unrealised ytlp was shrinking.... yawn.gif
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EPS increase mainly contributed by CPO when it was trading at RM 4,000 and above. However i am pretty sure 2009 and 2010 EPS will go down quite a lot due to the CPO price and stock pile issues...thats the reason why its price has been hammered down from RM 5.60 until RM 2.75 ....

This counter i am looking for the next few years don expect it to surge like glove counters wink.gif

I will post my research on TWS on its topic after i have done my research during weekends hope that my baby boy don cry a lot if not tak ada masa liaw laugh.gif

My stock pick even though boring but can guarantee won get heart attack tongue.gif

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post Jan 29 2010, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 29 2010, 01:59 PM)
EPS increase mainly contributed by CPO when it was trading at RM 4,000 and above. However i am pretty sure 2009 and 2010 EPS will go down quite a lot due to the CPO price and stock pile issues...thats the reason why its price has been hammered down from RM 5.60 until RM 2.75 ....

This counter i am looking for the next few years don expect it to surge like glove counters  wink.gif

I will post my research on TWS on its topic after i have done my research during weekends hope that my baby boy don cry a lot if not tak ada masa liaw  laugh.gif

My stock pick even though boring but can guarantee won get heart attack  tongue.gif
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KK, I will support your coming new thread and will join in as well. Will wait for better entry point... thumbup.gif

Do yo also look at Paramon? Quite good dividend records and also good eps...

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post Jan 29 2010, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jan 29 2010, 04:25 PM)
KK, I will support your coming new thread and  will join in as well.  Will wait for better entry point... thumbup.gif

Do yo also look at Paramon?  Quite good dividend records and also good eps...
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Yup interested in PARAMON but i have my own rules... Never touch properties development / construction , technology counters ...My own pantang biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2010, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 29 2010, 04:04 PM)
Yup interested in PARAMON but i have my own rules... Never touch properties development / construction , technology counters ...My own pantang  biggrin.gif
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Yup, is a property development company. I think I will give it a skip too because I have enough of Gamuda and HSL.



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