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 Next Gen Console: PS3 vs XBOX 360 vs. Wii, Next Gen speculation discussion

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post Mar 12 2005, 03:29 AM

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QUOTE(tidusthecoolest @ Mar 12 2005, 03:08 AM)
Optional HDD for Xbox 2? Why make it optional?
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Perhaps not everybody need the hdd? Like current xbox, how many actually used up the 8 gb hdd if they don't know about the function or those buy it just for gaming but not home media center.
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Mar 12 2005, 03:29 AM)
Perhaps not everybody need the hdd? Like current xbox, how many actually used up the 8 gb hdd if they don't know about the function or those buy it just for gaming but not home media center.
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But wouldn't it degrade game performance? Most Xbox games need HDD to use as cache right?
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QUOTE(tidusthecoolest @ Mar 12 2005, 04:10 AM)
But wouldn't it degrade game performance? Most Xbox games need HDD to use as cache right?
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Slower loading time perhaps but i thought xbox next does come with hdd but how big it is are still unknown, maybe default size just few gigs but then it's upgradable? Xbox can have superior loading time part of the hdd as well. The cache file is in xbox drive x or z. Goto check again.

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Mar 12 2005, 04:14 AM)
Slower loading time perhaps but i thought xbox next does come with hdd but how big it is are still unknown, maybe default size just few gigs but then it's upgradable?
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You mean that Xbox 2 will have HDD, but it's for system's use only? And if we want to use HDD on Xbox to store files, etc we have to buy an optional HDD?
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Maybe? All sort of rumours our there. Just goto wait till this e3. Hope i can go e3 with my friend this year since his gf going USA for studies.

Anyway, my bro start saving money for xbox next already. Since he is a working person, xbox next will be more affordable compare to last time when none of us have any income.
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post Mar 12 2005, 08:09 AM

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Reggie Fils-Aime confirmed that Revolution wont be released this year.
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post Mar 12 2005, 08:19 AM

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I wouldn't get my hopes up about going to E3. The show isn't open to the general public. sad.gif
QUOTE(from www.e3expo.com official website of e3 2005)
Frequently Asked Questions

Is the show open to the public?

No, E3 is not open to the public. E3 is a trade event and only professionals from the industry will be allowed to attend. Individuals who are not able to document their direct and current professional affiliation to the interactive entertainment industry are not qualified to attend E3. All E3 attendees are required to show government-issued photo I.D. (such as a driver's license or passport) upon request.
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post Mar 12 2005, 03:18 PM

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Just like when the PS2 first came out, the latest console graphics will be superior to PC when it came out for one or two years, then it became on-par with PC after another year and probably become outdated in another year or two later. That's the nature of consoles.

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QUOTE(Hangmen @ Mar 12 2005, 03:18 PM)
Just like when the PS2 first came out, the latest console graphics will be superior to PC when it came out for one or two years, then it became on-par with PC after another year and probably become outdated in another year or two later. That's the nature of consoles.
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Because it's not upgradeable maa.
PC you can upgrade the component to make it more powerful, but you can't upgrade console.

.... I read somewhere that someone modded his Xbox with 1.4 Ghz CPU. Double the original speed. But not compitable with some games. sweat.gif
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i think i read that xbox2 will hv 2gb hdd....
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QUOTE(tidusthecoolest @ Mar 12 2005, 03:46 PM)
Because it's not upgradeable maa.
PC you can upgrade the component to make it more powerful, but you can't upgrade console.

.... I read somewhere that someone modded his Xbox with 1.4 Ghz CPU. Double the original speed. But not compitable with some games.  sweat.gif
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Probably after two years of the next-gen console's life, newer and more powerful PC hardware will appear. There will probably be like a 5.2Ghz CPU and 1GB RAM is becoming a minimum, with newer mobos supporting more than 16GB of RAM, as well as new 80GB HD being available for as low as RM150 (or even lower!). Heck who knows, perhaps there will be the likes of nVidia Geforce 8800 Ultra or ATI Radeon X1850XT with 512MB or more video memory. At that point, it is likely standard for most mid-range graphic cards to run Doom 3 at 60fps on 1280 x 1024 and for low-end ones to run at 40+fps on 1024 x 768. The possibilities of the future is many and awesome.

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...which makes me think? What will the likes of PS4 and XBOX 3 be? Only future trends in the upcoming consoles of PS3 and XBOX 2 will tell.
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yeah the problem is can u keep up with the $$$$....that's the question. that's why i got the xbox....after calculating how much it'll cost to upgrade my P3 933 to at least a 2.8ghz machine.... 'nuff said. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 11 2005, 09:35 AM)
But i can't understand...why use specialize mem card....allow us to plug in cheap thumbdrive lar!!! But at least it's not only 8MB...
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Think again, Why would I(as microsoft,Sony,nintendo) want to give the business to thumb drive company when I sell 8MB memory card at a good price?

QUOTE(tidusthecoolest @ Mar 12 2005, 03:08 AM)
Optional HDD for Xbox 2? Why make it optional?
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if I not mistaken...from the net news.....by making the HDD optional is to reduce the overall cost of XBOX. This can allow microsoft improve its price competitive.

A HDD cost nearly RM200. It is not a RM20 product that u can simply add in.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Mar 12 2005, 04:06 PM)
Think again, Why would I(as microsoft,Sony,nintendo) want to give the business to thumb drive company when I sell 8MB memory card at a good price?
if I not mistaken...from the net news.....by making the HDD optional is to reduce the overall cost of XBOX. This can allow microsoft improve its price competitive.

A HDD cost nearly RM200. It is not a RM20 product that u can simply add in.
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But surely they can get discount for buying HDD in bulk right?
Microsoft's reason to get rid of HDD is probably their Memory Card didn't sell well because people are saving all their games in the HDD instead of Memory Card.
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Additional Xbox Xenon Info

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# Wireless Options: Xenon will enable both wired and wireless controllers (like the Nintendo WaveBird or the Logitech controllers), and will come with RF receivers for wireless options. The system also supports an optional Internet router/adapter.


# Controllers: The new controllers will be around the same size as the current S-controllers. Microsoft has eschewed the dual triggers for shoulder buttons, and the design is said to be a mixture between the current S-controllers and the current PS2 controllers. They will not feature slots for memory cards, which, we're told, are on the console itself. The system supports 64 megabyte memory cards. There are three controller slots, two controllers on front of the system, plus one USB on the back. Controllers have 2.5mm jacks for headset use.


# Console Design: The Xenon console design is said to be much smaller than Xbox, which seems obvious. The new design is styled less like a Corvette and more organic in shape. Its size falls somewhere between the new slimmer PS Two and original PS2.
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post Mar 12 2005, 04:42 PM

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Sony seemed obsessed with the number three. I remember that the PS1 CPU is 33Mhz. When the PS2 came out, the CPU is 333Mhz. So, do you think that the next console, the PS3 will have a 3.3Ghz (3333Mhz) CPU?
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still, if they really come out with a 3G processor, it wouldn't beat the 3 processor running in Xenon.
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Ah, I read from IGN that to play Xbox games on Xbox to we have to buy the optional HDD. Xbox 2 is using laptop HDD and not desktop HDD like Xbox 1.
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nowadays, laptop HD are easy to find already. so no prob tongue.gif

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