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 Next Gen Console: PS3 vs XBOX 360 vs. Wii, Next Gen speculation discussion

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post Feb 26 2005, 04:05 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 26 2005, 12:24 AM)
Don't be so sure. Even DVD takes some time to become mass market. And when PS2 was released, DVD has been around for ages(in fact DVD has been around for years before the launch of PS2). With BR-DVD, there's NONE on the market and PS3 will probably be the world's first consumer BR-DVD player as well.
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I agree. PS2 takes almost 2 years before "ahem" version of DVD game come out. Before that, all "ahem" game are on CDs with CG movies on the game got cut off to make the game fit in a CD. sweat.gif

Maybe they will make the "ahem" PS3 game in a DVD first with CG movies got cut off to make it fit in a DVD? unsure.gif

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post Mar 12 2005, 03:08 AM

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Optional HDD for Xbox 2? Why make it optional?
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post Mar 12 2005, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Mar 12 2005, 03:29 AM)
Perhaps not everybody need the hdd? Like current xbox, how many actually used up the 8 gb hdd if they don't know about the function or those buy it just for gaming but not home media center.
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But wouldn't it degrade game performance? Most Xbox games need HDD to use as cache right?
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post Mar 12 2005, 04:26 AM

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Mar 12 2005, 04:14 AM)
Slower loading time perhaps but i thought xbox next does come with hdd but how big it is are still unknown, maybe default size just few gigs but then it's upgradable?
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You mean that Xbox 2 will have HDD, but it's for system's use only? And if we want to use HDD on Xbox to store files, etc we have to buy an optional HDD?
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post Mar 12 2005, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hangmen @ Mar 12 2005, 03:18 PM)
Just like when the PS2 first came out, the latest console graphics will be superior to PC when it came out for one or two years, then it became on-par with PC after another year and probably become outdated in another year or two later. That's the nature of consoles.
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Because it's not upgradeable maa.
PC you can upgrade the component to make it more powerful, but you can't upgrade console.

.... I read somewhere that someone modded his Xbox with 1.4 Ghz CPU. Double the original speed. But not compitable with some games. sweat.gif
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post Mar 12 2005, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Mar 12 2005, 04:06 PM)
Think again, Why would I(as microsoft,Sony,nintendo) want to give the business to thumb drive company when I sell 8MB memory card at a good price?
if I not mistaken...from the net news.....by making the HDD optional is to reduce the overall cost of XBOX. This can allow microsoft improve its price competitive.

A HDD cost nearly RM200. It is not a RM20 product that u can simply add in.
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But surely they can get discount for buying HDD in bulk right?
Microsoft's reason to get rid of HDD is probably their Memory Card didn't sell well because people are saving all their games in the HDD instead of Memory Card.
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post Mar 12 2005, 05:57 PM

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Ah, I read from IGN that to play Xbox games on Xbox to we have to buy the optional HDD. Xbox 2 is using laptop HDD and not desktop HDD like Xbox 1.
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post Mar 12 2005, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Mar 12 2005, 08:28 PM)
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That sux. I have bad karma with laptop hdd which die off easier. (experienced it...3 laptop hdd gone)

Wait a minute, what you means is in order to play xbox games on xbox next, you need to buy optional hdd?If xbox next games, the default settings will do?
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Yes, The HDD is only needed to play Xbox 1 games. Also if you want to use custom soundtrack. I think the load time of Xbox 2 game will decrease if we have the HDD installed.

Laptop HDD is expensive. 40 GB is RM 275 and 100 GB is RM 780. And still not sure whether we can buy any laptop HDD and plug it in or need some kind of adapter to attach it (like PS2).

But using laptop's HDD will make Xbox 2 unit smaller and slimmer.

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post Mar 30 2005, 01:49 PM

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Upgradeable console is a no-no to game developer.
Simply because not all gamer will buy the upgrade.
And game developer will think twice to make a game that needs the upgrade because only gamers who buys the upgrade will consider buying the game.

Example: PS2 HDD & Network Adapter.

PS2 is not as successfull as Xbox in online gaming simply because not every gamers buys the network adapter/ HDD upgrade.
Xbox is more successful because they have it built into their console since launch. This is probably why the new slim PS2 is now shipped standard with network adapter built in.

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