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Ksano
post Jan 1 2010, 03:36 AM

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ghaaaa... also 1st time shoot fireworks..

hand held since no tripod yet...

most other result blur2 doh.gif

only this acceptable for me ( dont know others lol)

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lehtung
post Jan 1 2010, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Jan 1 2010, 12:44 AM)
Thanks
Tamron @50mm not too close enough tongue.gif

Some shots with SAL 55-200
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I need to learn how to not capture smoke (and of coure all the basics) biggrin.gif
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my shot..
during last CNY..tongue.gif

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Added on January 1, 2010, 4:08 amanyone shooting lunar eclipse now?

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albnok
post Jan 1 2010, 05:47 AM

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And now, for more from the Opteka 85mm F1.4!

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I also took the opportunity to compare it to the Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA - something I may not want to do in fear of finding my lens inferior. Fortunately, it wasn't the case... strongly. Here's the Opteka 85mm F1.4 focused to 1 meter, its minimum focusing distance.

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The Zeiss 85mm F1.4, however, magnifies a lot more because:

1) it can focus to 85cm close
2) it has external focus

Internal focus lenses tend to widen the angle of view, thus causing lesser magnification.

For example, the Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus lens focuses to 87cm close, giving a 1:4x maximum magnification. It is an external focus lens.

The Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA can focus to 72cm close... so logically, it should be able to get closer and get a better magnification, right? However, as it is internal focus, its angle of view widens at close range, and so it gets the same 1:4x maximum magnification as the STF!

So, there are benefits to external focus lenses.

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Size-wise they are quite similiar. Both use 72mm filter threads.

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The Zeiss hood can literally eat the Opteka hood!

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And how about a portrait comparison? Opteka 85mm F1.4 at F1.4 1/100s ISO800.

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Here's the same thing from the Zeiss at the same settings.

Honestly, at a glance, the overall contrast looks very similiar! Also, the Opteka is very capable of picking up ambient colors the way the Zeiss does. Please pardon that the Opteka has a slightly different focus plane.

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It is only when you start pixel-peeping that you see why the Zeiss costs 4 times the price... this is a 100% crop from the Opteka. It is pretty sharp wide open!

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However, this is a 100% crop from the Zeiss! The keyword here is microcontrast - it has far more contrasty details.

I would say that after this exercise, I understood what the Zeiss microcontrast thing was all about. The Opteka is really 80% of the Zeiss, for 25% the price!
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I also tried the Opteka on the Sony Alpha 550 - this used MF Check Live View. Works great even at 7x zoom (14x zoom is a bit too shaky for a 85mm lens.)

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Accuracy even at no zoom using MF Check LV was pretty good!

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However, when I tried to use the Quick AF Live View mode, manual-focusing using the LCD, it just seemed to be off all the time. However I could notice a slight sharpening happening in Quick AF Live View mode.

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Finally, don't fear the 1 meter minimum focusing distance - you can dismount the lens and turn it the other way around. You can even control the aperture using the aperture ring!

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It gives about 70mm for a 36mm-wide sensor, or 1:1.94x maximum magnification.

In other news, there might be a Samyang 35mm F1.4:

http://www.lenstip.com/index.php?art=122

I would buy that no questions asked! Knowing the obscene quality of the Samyang 85mm F1.4 you can bet the 35mm is going to be a winner. Since it is a full-frame wide-angle it should have a better MFD than the Sigma 30mm F1.4's mediocre 40cm. (The Sigma looks nice on FF despite the vignetting!)
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post Jan 1 2010, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 1 2010, 05:47 AM)
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It is only when you start pixel-peeping that you see why the Zeiss costs 4 times the price... this is a 100% crop from the Opteka. It is pretty sharp wide open!

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

However, this is a 100% crop from the Zeiss! The keyword here is microcontrast - it has far more contrasty details.

I would say that after this exercise, I understood what the Zeiss microcontrast thing was all about. The Opteka is really 80% of the Zeiss, for 25% the price!
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i think the mustache on the 2nd pic looks purple-ish... it that wat u mean by microcontrast ?

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post Jan 1 2010, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 1 2010, 05:54 AM)
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Finally, don't fear the 1 meter minimum focusing distance - you can dismount the lens and turn it the other way around. You can even control the aperture using the aperture ring!

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It gives about 70mm for a 36mm-wide sensor, or 1:1.94x maximum magnification.


reverse macro? wow nice!

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post Jan 1 2010, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(amadeo @ Jan 1 2010, 03:19 AM)
superb la lauya..  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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thanks bro, happy new year !!
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post Jan 1 2010, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 1 2010, 02:51 AM)
Let's all swamp to Sony's 1st Alpha Pro Shop.
Here's the actual (unedited) content of the SMS received
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Let's have TT on that day?
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post Jan 1 2010, 11:30 AM

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yummy new year drool.gif drool.gif

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post Jan 1 2010, 11:43 AM

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guys, do u think getting the alpha stuff would be cheaper at singapore?

planning to get it from there since the warranty is internationally covered.

any comment?
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post Jan 1 2010, 11:47 AM

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hi everybody, one question..is Tamron 17-50 2.8 worth it if i wanna shoot indoor..?
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post Jan 1 2010, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Ksano @ Jan 1 2010, 03:36 AM)
ghaaaa... also 1st time shoot fireworks..

hand held since no tripod yet...

most other result blur2  doh.gif

only this acceptable for me ( dont know others lol)

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Using bulk mode to shoot?>
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post Jan 1 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(mechaboy @ Jan 1 2010, 11:47 AM)
hi everybody, one question..is Tamron 17-50 2.8 worth it if i wanna shoot indoor..?
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it depends on the lighting of the indoor area
if its dark like this, you still need flash >_<
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F2.8, flash bounce

alternatively, iso800/1600 to compensate no flash
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post Jan 1 2010, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(mechaboy @ Jan 1 2010, 11:47 AM)
hi everybody, one question..is Tamron 17-50 2.8 worth it if i wanna shoot indoor..?
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get a flash 1st if u wan to shoot indoor....


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QUOTE(gacktleong @ Jan 1 2010, 11:43 AM)
guys, do u think getting the alpha stuff would be cheaper at singapore?

planning to get it from there since the warranty is internationally covered.

any comment?
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dun think Singapore is cheaper.... but they do hv more complete range of product...

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post Jan 1 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(mechaboy @ Jan 1 2010, 11:47 AM)
hi everybody, one question..is Tamron 17-50 2.8 worth it if i wanna shoot indoor..?
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the constant aperture really helps if u choose not to use flash indoors..

thumbup.gif go for it!
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post Jan 1 2010, 12:13 PM

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where go get Opteka lens
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post Jan 1 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(fansoption @ Jan 1 2010, 12:13 PM)
where go get Opteka lens
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which Opteka lens r u getting? biggrin.gif

i bot 1 Opteka 85mm F1.4 for my belated x'mas gift & 1 Samyang 8mm FishEye for new yr tongue.gif

reaching soon in couple of weeks

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post Jan 1 2010, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(cjlai @ Jan 1 2010, 11:59 AM)
get a flash 1st if u wan to shoot indoor....


Added on January 1, 2010, 12:00 pm
dun think Singapore is cheaper....  but they do hv more complete range of product...
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ohh, i changing my whole rig now

getting a550 wif sal16105

any comment n recommendation for good deal?

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post Jan 1 2010, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(gacktleong @ Jan 1 2010, 12:58 PM)
ohh, i changing my whole rig now

getting a550 wif sal16105

any comment n recommendation for good deal?
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to me if not something rare better get it locally biggrin.gif

go check out the A550 + SAL1680Z package la....

to me i rather get a Zeiss biggrin.gif

u can check out the price fr the thread/seller below
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/885593/
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/799244/
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post Jan 1 2010, 01:15 PM

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Ya wei lets go to Zaloon on the 9th and TT after that la. (: Was at Solaris Mont Kiara last night for countdown and saw some one using a900 + VG + 70-400G. (:

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