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TSevios
post Dec 24 2009, 08:34 AM, updated 16y ago

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Hey guys. I get used to drive manual car most of the time because for me.... manual is easy.... perhaps..haha tongue.gif
Recently I'd bought Honda City and I discovered that it has 7 speed gear mode, and also honda might have problem with its gear box.
Hence, I need some advice from you guys how to use the 7 speed gear mode effectively to avoid unwanted problems.
Does it used when it is climbing mountain?
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post Dec 24 2009, 09:02 AM

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I think if you are thinking of climbing mountain you better do it with foot.as far as i know, just drive it like a normal autocar, just that your gearbox feels seamless, can hardly feel gear changing.
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post Dec 24 2009, 09:08 AM

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for convenience of over taking
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post Dec 24 2009, 09:15 AM

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ur honda city is equipped with cvt gearbox. your car is not manual car.
they defined 7 different gears ratio for manual like feel driving.

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post Dec 24 2009, 09:46 AM

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Overtaking and harsh drive.Just like Benz.
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post Dec 24 2009, 01:30 PM

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Just drive it and leave it in D.
The intelligent CVT will alternate between S mode and D mode automatically according to driving condition.

No harm to the gearbox while driving with 7 speed mode, although you will be changing gears less effective than the computer.
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post Dec 24 2009, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 24 2009, 01:30 PM)
Just drive it and leave it in D.
The intelligent CVT will alternate between S mode and D mode automatically according to driving condition.

No harm to the gearbox while driving with 7 speed mode, although you will be changing gears less effective than the computer.
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tak faham the bolded part.. if will alternate then gear lever there show S and D mode for wat?
btw, it is true that in 7 speed mode it is nothing more than a preset ratio in the cvt
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post Dec 24 2009, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Dec 24 2009, 07:08 PM)
tak faham the bolded part.. if will alternate then gear lever there show S and D mode for wat?
btw, it is true that in 7 speed mode it is nothing more than a preset ratio in the cvt
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In D mode,and on normal driving on flat road, it will maintain at lower RPMs than S mode.
In S Mode, the gearbox allows the engine to maintain it's rev higher than D mode.

Example:

100KM/h

D Mode = 2200RPM
S Mode = 3000RPM

Usually the gearbox will auto detect the gradient (uphill and downhill) and alternate between D and S.

And yes, 7 speed mode is a "simulation" of a '7 speed gearbox' with all the 'gear changing effect' and revs go 'up and down' like a normal gearbox,
rather than "constant" RPM.
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post Dec 25 2009, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 24 2009, 07:31 PM)
In D mode,and on normal driving on flat road, it will maintain at lower RPMs than S mode.
In S Mode, the gearbox allows the engine to maintain it's rev higher than D mode.

Example:

100KM/h

D Mode = 2200RPM
S Mode = 3000RPM

Usually the gearbox will auto detect the gradient (uphill and downhill) and alternate between D and S.

And yes, 7 speed mode is a "simulation" of a '7 speed gearbox' with all the 'gear changing effect' and revs go 'up and down' like a normal gearbox,
rather than "constant" RPM.
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even if i put D only? what if i put the lever on S?
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post Dec 25 2009, 10:26 AM

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are you sure the city is equipped with hill sensor??
didn't mention on the spec at all.
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post Dec 25 2009, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(jojoe @ Dec 25 2009, 10:26 AM)
are you sure the city is equipped with hill sensor??
didn't mention on the spec at all.
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Yes. Though it's not mentioned anywhere in the brochure or even the manual, it is built into the ECU.

For example, i am driving 110Km/h at downhill of gua tempurung PLUS highway, the moment I let go the gas pedal, the gearbox will downshift to lower ratio gear, the RPM goes up, and I can feel some engine braking.
Conventional auto gearbox will continue to be in 4th gear/Overdrive and you can feel your car going faster and faster (like a runaway roller coaster effect)

Do the same thing on flat ground road surface and the gearbox maintains the same RPM.But if the road has a slight slope, it will rev higher (according to road gradient and your gas pedal pressure), as against to conventional gearbox which cause the engine to "struggle" in the wrong gear.

Go uphill Genting/Cameron, and the car will maintain RPM at higher rev (automatically switch into S mode, even with gear in D). Don't need to even floor hard to get the gearbox "kickdown". Just drive like normal.

See how complicated? City owners will know what I am talking about.


Added on December 25, 2009, 10:53 am
QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Dec 25 2009, 01:37 AM)
even if i put D only? what if i put the lever on S?
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If you put in S mode, then it will hold the revs at higher RPM from 0KM/h right up to maximum RPM and maximum top speed. It will hold at higher revs until you change back to D.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 25 2009, 11:04 AM
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post Dec 25 2009, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 25 2009, 10:50 AM)
Yes. Though it's not mentioned anywhere in the brochure or even the manual, it is built into the ECU.

For example, i am driving 110Km/h at downhill of gua tempurung PLUS highway, the moment I let go the gas pedal, the gearbox will downshift to lower ratio gear, the RPM goes up, and I can feel some engine braking.
Conventional auto gearbox will continue to be in 4th gear/Overdrive and you can feel your car going faster and faster (like a runaway roller coaster effect)

Do the same thing on flat ground road surface and the gearbox maintains the same RPM.But if the road has a slight slope, it will rev higher (according to road gradient and your gas pedal pressure), as against to conventional gearbox which cause the engine to "struggle" in the wrong gear.

Go uphill Genting/Cameron, and the car will maintain RPM at higher rev (automatically switch into S mode, even with gear in D). Don't need to even floor hard to get the gearbox "kickdown". Just drive like normal.

See how complicated? City owners will know what I am talking about.


Added on December 25, 2009, 10:53 am

If you put in S mode, then it will hold the revs at higher RPM from 0KM/h right up to maximum RPM and maximum top speed. It will hold at higher revs until you change back to D.
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but in my experience the S mode is juz shifting at higher rpm je.. never experience any rpm holding wor sweat.gif
anyway, it is still too complicated for me to understand doh.gif
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post Feb 26 2014, 10:44 PM

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should we put D or S when we want to use manual 7gear?
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post Feb 26 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(imran @ Feb 26 2014, 10:44 PM)
should we put D or S when we want to use manual 7gear?
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No rules, both also can. It's just a different driving feel only, so depends which you prefer

7 speed mode is make your gear more responsive, rpm climbs quicker ,swifter for good acceleration cause power comes quickly, sort of on-demand
S is will make the rev higher than D, so easier to high rpm/redline/WOT/extract more power and torque-----IINM

D+7s = normal driving +gear more responsive
S+7s = more aggressive mode

IMHO
7s for max accerelation
S for top speed/max power



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 26 2014, 11:28 PM
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post Feb 26 2014, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(evios @ Dec 24 2009, 08:34 AM)
Hey guys. I get used to drive manual car most of the time because for me.... manual is easy.... perhaps..haha tongue.gif
Recently I'd bought Honda City and I discovered that it has 7 speed gear mode, and also honda might have problem with its gear box.
Hence, I need some advice from you guys how to use the 7 speed gear mode effectively to avoid unwanted problems.
Does it used when it is climbing mountain?
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Waaaa...you bought liao only you discovered it has 7speed mode kah....wat else discover after you bought it...? did you find out there is a hidden tire in the trunk? And the seats FUyoh, can lipat2 1 like the akrobat...

If you feel sluggish when uphill, sure you can use 7s...wont spoil one...the gearbox actually very tough de...lastime I attended a honda seminar held by Soichiro Honda, he sed har....the City gearbox har...can tahan 160HP one...so no problem no matter how you dribe it coz he said har, he got give it brein so it has AI one...only that if you give it drink ATF oil instead of CVTF oil then only the AI will fall sick then the CVT also haywire and damage


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post Feb 26 2014, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Feb 26 2014, 11:23 PM)
No rules, both also can. It's just a different driving feel  only, so depends which you prefer

7 speed mode is make your gear more responsive, rpm climbs quicker ,swifter for good acceleration cause power comes quickly, sort of on-demand
S is will make the rev higher than D, so easier to high rpm/redline/WOT/extract more power and torque-----IINM

D+7s = normal driving +gear more responsive
S+7s = more aggressive mode

IMHO
7s for max accerelation
S for top speed/max power
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i afraid if i shift gear to S + 7 manual gear, it will effect on my gearbox
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post Feb 26 2014, 11:44 PM

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Hi both, this topic is five years ago…why dont open a new one?
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post Feb 26 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(imran @ Feb 26 2014, 11:42 PM)
i afraid if i shift gear to S + 7 manual gear, it will effect on my gearbox
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U should concern more whether the previous owner feed the AI what health drink
Especially if it was model before 2005 batch coz Honta automotive health division only updated their knowledge database of what the AI actually preferred drink in 2005 and over.





 

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