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tgeoklin
post Dec 19 2009, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(ETEAM TRADING @ Dec 18 2009, 10:07 PM)
wan cut off all...
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Let's not be hasty, consider carefully before cutting IT off, later regret for life sweat.gif
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post Dec 24 2009, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Dec 24 2009, 10:52 AM)
they are not really absorbing the tax, just that they reward you with more $$$ for your first swipe
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Actually, this is as much as they can do as the govt has tacitly indicated that foreign banks are not allowed to overshadowed the local banks ie. same with all their bias policy. This is also the reason why no foreign bank has issued any free for life cards. cry.gif
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post Dec 28 2009, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Dec 28 2009, 12:16 AM)
It is called World Mastercard. Currently offered by CIMB Bank/Direct Access and MBF. The one by CIMB Bank/Direct Access doesn't require an invitation.

The one by VISA International is called VISA Infinite.
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Currently the most exclusive cards in Malaysia, as in the least number of people holding them are CIMB's Enrich World Mastercard and RHB Visa Infinite. Both are by invitation only. So for all those people looking for that ONE card to maintain, one of these would be a good option brows.gif
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post Dec 28 2009, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(santaclaus @ Dec 28 2009, 10:40 AM)
this one gif me free oso dunwan .... sometimes haf to c which bank issuing ... if u hold a visa infinite but get paliah service , i rather hold a classic card with good services.


Added on December 28, 2009, 10:49 am

its juz not prestige , its already a norm .... yes it do offers something more like klia lounge , higher p.a , golf ... but if u dun utilise these , i dont c any special bout platinum ... i'd been using a few n now all downgrade to get better rebates ( which is more practical ) ... n for those who tot platinum hold higher CL than other cards , u r definitely wrong. it used to b , but now i cant say my SCB justone with a mediocre CL beats most of the plats out thr.

its all began with tht stupid UOB who launched One platinum , if not mistaken. everyone tot thts the plat n everyone go rushing to get them. then the other banks start to counter by offering real plats at gold card level. n now even some banks dun issue classic card anymore , its all start with gold card.

yep unless u got a visa infinite / world mastercard. u stil doesnt hold any special status recognition.
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Actually, the service is pretty good as it has a direct number to call, which is not shared amongst the rest of their cards, thus resulting in very good service and response time unlike the normal plat line etc. The rewards and benefits also outclass anything out there, provided you really subscribe to such a lifestyle as its mostly tailored to high spenders and frequent travellers. smile.gif


Added on December 28, 2009, 12:15 pm
QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Dec 28 2009, 11:12 AM)
Problem is I have installments in with the bloody PBB credit card. First time heard Gold & Platinum have RM 5k below credit limit. For my case, each level of the credit card got upgraded, it is at least RM 10k extra credit limit.
The thing is PBB has one of the lowest income requirement for Platinum & I believe CIMB has the same or higher requirement. Somemore I pay promptly & no bad records in CCRIS or whatever. I don't see any reason for rejecting my request seeing this should be the time to preserve customers. Darn, thinking of cancelling but the installments also headache.
Some banks will impose a 'special' cancellation (pay in one short) charges on easy-payment installments. A few SCB officers told me about it. There is a fine line clause on easy payment transactions.
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As we had previously mentioned before, the more cards you hold, the higher your exposure level, thus the lessor your chance of gettting a higher CL, which probably affected your available choice of card type wink.gif

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post Dec 28 2009, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(deeplyheartbroken @ Dec 28 2009, 01:08 PM)
By the way, SCB also has the Visa infinite card now
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Yes they do, but its very easily obtainable, thus the somewhat lack of exclusivity tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2009, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(vampbreak @ Dec 28 2009, 03:02 PM)
Did Amex Plat Charge Card count as exclusive?

Hard to get and hard to maintain.  biggrin.gif
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erh, actually in comparision to the cards I had mentioned, the Amex Plat card is a doozie. But I do concur that its hard to maintain as people are becoming smarter and no longer willing to pay that much for a card. Further, its not fair to compare the Amex Plat to the Visa Infinite or World Mastercard, which were created to challenge the Centurion Card tongue.gif


Added on December 28, 2009, 4:32 pm
QUOTE(hye @ Dec 28 2009, 03:18 PM)
SCB VISA Infinite was previously available via application but now only offered to SCB's PB customers. You'll need to have RM250K in deposits with the bank to own this card now. I'm not sure whether you constitute this as easy and non-exclusive. For the past 1 year, I may have sighted like once or twice the SCB's VISA Infinite.

RHB VISA Infinite (It is not available for application) will be offered to customers having RM1 million in deposits with RHB. Sure very exclusive one.  tongue.gif
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Actually, nowdays a lot of people have more than RM250K in cash though such may not be reflected from members of this forum, which mostly comprises youngsters icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on December 28, 2009, 4:35 pm
QUOTE(Reventon @ Dec 28 2009, 04:14 PM)
Early this month i went to TAG HEUER annual sale exclusive for CIMB VI and WMC holders at plaza central, damn pack with people , so i guess its nothing exclusive for VI and WMC  laugh.gif .

However the offer discount over there is awesome , up to 70% discount and surprised Grand Carrera series gets 60% ! Quite a good deal .
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That's why I only mentioned the CIMB Enrich World Mastercard and not their generic VI or WMC. Btw, tag normally has a 30% or so discount rate so a 60% on sale should be pretty normal hmm.gif

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post Dec 29 2009, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(vampbreak @ Dec 28 2009, 04:41 PM)
I thought we measure the "exclusive" by how hard to get the card and the number of people who carrying it. This VI and WMC only for CIMB & RHB or SCB customer or what ? Because they are only by invitation right? I mean, how can bank possibly know your account activity if you are not their customer? Maybe Reventon can advise? Did he become a CIMB customer and deposit some amount of money? then only the bank will send you the invitation ?
I thought VISA Black card & Courts Mastercard was created to challange Black Card?  brows.gif
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Yes, only their very best customers will be invited into this very selected circle of cardholders. On your last point I stand corrected blush.gif

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post Jan 1 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(fauzistt @ Jan 1 2010, 10:39 AM)
Happy New Year!!!

..one of my wish is to know who's here going to be the first to pay the GST; it could be me coz i havent got reply on my Amex CC application huhuhu...
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Good luck & enjoy your glory of being the first rclxms.gif

Btw, I have two Mas Golden Lounge vouchers which is expiring by 10/02/2010. As its tied to the CIMB VI/WMC which I had terminated, any such cardmembers travelling before that period and willing to trade me something for them? Anything is better than wasting them. Thks smile.gif
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post Jan 1 2010, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Reventon @ Jan 1 2010, 02:24 PM)
I have two also tied with CIMB VI cards , unfortunately , expired on yesterday.  sweat.gif
Happy New Year Everyone !
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Ha ..ha .... guess that's the break. Was always thinking of saving them since can always use my priority pass or even the amex plat vouchers and before you know it, it's expired sad.gif

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post Jan 1 2010, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 1 2010, 08:38 PM)
Happy New Year 2010, guys!

Happy payiing RM 50 GST to government. On top of that, nice gift from Malaysian government: Sugar up 20 cents, white bread up 10%, min floor price for ciggy.
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My new year resolution is to send this Govt to the trash and long live the People!!!!!!!!!!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 8 2010, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ Jan 8 2010, 01:33 PM)
i wonder if there is a bank curtesy waiver of the tax on high-volume cards. anyone with a turnover of around 50k p.a. per card tried to get a waiver from their bank?
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Don't mean to burst your bubble but RM50K per annum is not exactly premium turnover brows.gif
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post Jan 8 2010, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ Jan 8 2010, 02:16 PM)
didnt say premium.... only saying high smile.gif

i took 50k cause this means profit to the bank from charges is around 1-1,5k (2-3%). so with this kind of turnover it *should* be worth keeping the customer and pay RM 50. even if you discount the points value and cash back and other costs - this would be maybe 800RM tops and the member would still be profitable right?

just wondering ...
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You are right. Most foreign banks will pay on your behalf but don't expect any black & white cause BNM disallow them to do so. As a hint, give HSBC, UOB or Std Chart a try whistling.gif
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post Jan 8 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Jan 8 2010, 03:51 PM)
refer page 1 post #1


Added on January 8, 2010, 3:53 pm

let me try that when my SCB JustOne "anni" in 03/10 brows.gif
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Good luck & pls understand we are referring to min spending of RM50K pa here. Hope to have your good news then thumbup.gif
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post Jan 12 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(cheez @ Jan 12 2010, 11:20 AM)
Bro, care to enlighten us which bank is this?
since u're telling the truth, no harms done in revealing the bank's name.

OT: Another reason y i dun use overcharged maxis service. smile.gif
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Story sounds fishy and lots of collaborations required eg.

1) if line is barred, number can still receive calls, just not call out
2) if complete number change, who was the sim card collected by?
3) all telco has a backup log of all call diversion, sms sent, calls made which are system controlled and near to tamper proof
4) How was the credit card sent or collected?
5) If collected in person from card centre, Mykad and thumbprint matching is a must

Do understand that from a Bank's point of view, not all "fraud" case are genuine ones. You will be surprised at the ingenuity of the parties concerned but rest assured, the truth shall prevail ultimately. Do keep us updated.

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post Jan 13 2010, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(hye @ Jan 13 2010, 07:28 PM)
@cantona7

Your calculations may be spot on but the problem is that nobody could confirm what is the exchange rate (and method of calculations) that each bank is using to determine overseas expenses.

The previous forummer actually performed a few transactions using different cards but swipe at the same date (of course slightly different time) and same value. Surprisingly, the converted value in RM differs and proved that MBB is lower than DA although theoretically MBB should be higher.

I mean just take it as it is ... coz credit card is all about convenience and security. If you want it any cheaper then use cash. Bear in mind in forex conversions it's either the money changer or the bank stands to gain from you - you can't run away from it. Even debit cards are subjected to forex conversions when used overseas.
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To put things in perspective, the actual exchange rate is akin to the stock market where the banks are the punters buying & selling as required.

The rates quoted for the day normally reflects the highest rates for the previous day plus a % of profits. Thus it very unlikely that a comparative benchmark can be properly derived.
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post Jan 14 2010, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(rockefeller @ Jan 13 2010, 11:28 PM)
Ok this is a very subjective question but generally, what's the starting Credit Limit bank usually gives to a Visa Infinite or World Mastercard cardholder? Is it 100k CL?
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Well, RHB's Infinite card does start you off with RM200K limit while for SCB, its a min RM50K and CIMB's VI/WMC starts from RM75K excluding the Enrich WMC. But its all subjective and dependent on your respective credit ratings smile.gif


Added on January 14, 2010, 7:10 am
QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 14 2010, 12:09 AM)
hope you don't have to reduce your CL to RM1K like tgeoklin when you applying loan for next property  tongue.gif

Yah, the RM50tax at anniversary date give us sometime to consider... also give banks to reconsider how to keep card holders by giving them a carrot (like HLB Card in my case) as many are still cancelling their cards.
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I doubt tinkerbell will be in the same situation as myself for I am seriously earning much too little to justify the whooping CLs with all the banks as practically had most of the cards in the market as well sad.gif and that's before even factoring in the numerous loans outstanding


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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 13 2010, 11:54 PM)
@Gen-X,
I'd been bz; dad had a fall and had to go for an operation; he's recovering well now but physio 3x a week so I'd been bz chauffeuring him up and down. Also recently took VP of the property I purchased in 2007 so been bz thinking about kitchen fittings and all; plus house shopping for yet another property *oopS*

Will be more active from now *smiles* but I've really lost touch with the CC world.  I also have no incentive to stop my CCs for now because most of my CCs were issued in the Q3 so I figured I'll just stick with it till then tongue.gif
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Welcome back and sorry to hear about your dad, hope he recovers soon. And no fret about the RM50 tax charges as most banks will bear it for their high spending customers. Btw good luck with the SCB, hope you had sms in your entry for the guaranteed gifts. Its 100% sure get this time round tongue.gif


Added on January 14, 2010, 7:21 am
QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 13 2010, 11:48 PM)
Last week I called HLB CS and told them I want to cancel my HLB Plat MC. Actually, over the years, I have been happy with HLB Customer Service and my CL is 6 figures but due to lack of promotion and cash rebate offers, I have not been using my HLB card for months.

Today got a call from their Card Cancellation Department representative and I must say I am very happy once again with HLB CS. The representative offered to credit to my account 20,000 reward points. Now since I have been holding the card prior to 2008, I only need 7000 reward points to offset for the RM50 tax; therefore, HLB is giving me extra reward points of 13,000!  rclxm9.gif

After I happily accepted the offer, the representative then called me again and informed me that HLB will automatically for the next three years waive my annual fees! Save me the hassle to call them for the next three years  thumbup.gif 

Having said the above, I have no reason to use HLB card as there aren't discount for HLB card at most places I do patronise  sad.gif  except maybe now Canton-i can get RM10 voucher when spending above a certain amount.

As for UOB, last month I accepted their offer to swipe 3xRM100 within 14 days to get Smart$ points but it was not reflected in my statement this month, so called CS and was told it would only be credited during my anniversary month.

tinkerbel: where have you been hibernating last few weeks? Good you are back.
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Good to hear about the HLB offer, which is what I had been telling everyone, as only MBB will tell you to fly kite the last I heard as their Mgt had been directed not to compromise and to set an example while showing that we need them more than they need us tongue.gif

Sorry about the UOB issue as before that its a strict off RM50 credit into a/c but BNM steps in after a local bank complained. Goes to show why and how proton is the number 1 car in M'sia blink.gif

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post Jan 14 2010, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 14 2010, 10:03 AM)
@MilesAndMore,
It's a true story.  We weren't able to get our hands on our of the HSBC Premier Ang Pow packets last year.  The first time my mom asked about it they told her it wasn't ready; to come back the next day.  She did and then she was told it's not available.

Whether the mortgage officer believe me or not, it's entirely up to him but he did say he'll try to get us Premier Ang Pow packets this year! LOL.

@tgeoklin,
My earnings is nothing comparable to little; it's zero! Obviously I couldn't tell the Mortgage officer that tongue.gif

I did SMS in BUT I was late so I guess I won't be getting the damn TV [obviously that's what I was hoping/aiming for].  Ah well, will try again come 5th February *grins*

Eh btw.. what's the take with UOB on their CCs again?
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No worries, even if you did not get the TV, the cameras is a sure bet as everyone will win not like previously when the prize was limited. As to UOB, previously they gave RM50 cashback straight off to waive the service tax but now they only give RM50 worth of points for you to redeem something as BNM had instructed them accordingly
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QUOTE(rockefeller @ Jan 14 2010, 11:27 AM)
enrich is malaysia airlines' frequent flyer's programme just like krisflyer to singapore airlines. you may use the miles you accumulated to redeem for free flight tickets or upgrade to better class i.e business or first class.

1000 enrich miles can't get you much, most redemption are in the 5 or 6 figures.


Added on January 14, 2010, 11:27 amtgeoklin, you have world enrich mastercard with 300k CL?
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Had. Cancelled about a couple of months back tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2010, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(rockefeller @ Jan 14 2010, 02:29 PM)
By any chance other banks are offering you similar CL?
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Put it this way, I had not applied for a card in ages. Thus I cannot know if they would offer me such a limit should I apply for their card. But from my understanding of how banks work, if you have say a RM1M deposit with them, chances are good that you will be granted a minimum of RM300K CL. The highest CL I ever came across was RM1M for a big time tycoon back once upon a time brows.gif
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QUOTE(rockefeller @ Jan 14 2010, 03:55 PM)
I see, meaning in this case you don't apply using income documents but use your deposit strength in the bank is it?

1M for the tycoon? Wow. what bank is that?
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Yes, you are right. I had never applied for a card based on income. All my cards were preapproved by the banks and its been very hard to reject due to relationship issues. Thus I am taking this govt initiative to cut myself some slack. Plus I am getting old and travelling so much lesser, thus cards are no longer that essential to me. As to the bank concern, its none other than the biggest bank in M'sia tongue.gif

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