Bro,

Its a pre-production release amp. The internal DSPs were not optimized yet. The good thing is that I believe we are the 1st country in the world to see the potential of the new lineup that SVS is going to release in the coming months.

And Ron (SVS President) is a very down to earth guy and extremely honest. That means a lot to some people. He was just not pushing the stuff, he genuinely loves what he is doing.

The sealed vs ported sound signature is different at least to my ears. The ported have the bass overhang that in my opinion is essential for movies and the big bang.

I listened to the SB13 very briefly and liked what I heard. However, I don't think it is fair to compare that to the seaton submersive, as its a different price range. But its good.

The PB13 is a beast, that I can confirm. The amount of air it pushes is tremendous. As is the PC-13. The one that was not setup to its optimum with the room problems was also pretty good.

I think if u want to go local any one of the SVSs are great and thats a fact. I've so far heard the PB12NSD, SB12, SB10, SB13, PB12, PC12 and all of them sound great. Work towards ur budget and it there shd be something for everyone of u.

The Seatons are a different class. I believe the upcoming SB16 will put up a fight. But in terms of raw power the PB13U can easily match the raw SPL of the Seaton. Its just different sound characteristics.

I would ask those who have small rooms and are looking for their 1st sub and can wait, to check out the upcoming SB10. That for its small footprint and wallet friendly prices is my pick for best budget sub with a big heart. I liked how that sub sounded. In my opinion, the sound signature, seems to be able to match some of the more established brands at slightly cheaper.

Worth is in the ears of the beholder. The sunfire worked well in ur room and seemed to integrate well. If u r looking for something to upgrade to, yes the SB series would be a good place to start. However, u would probably need to look at the SB13 onwards.

I was there till 4...Had to pick the wifey up from her meeting, us northeners just cannot get used to the KL jams man...Next time, we will meet up. 2-3weeks time...

While I admit that the PC13U was nowhere near its optimum (based on my experience with the PB13Us), the 3 sealed subs, were properly set and showed its mettle when htkaki ran the sealed only for concerts. It was clean and no overhang. And the little 10in bugger was really impressive, loads of output and still very clean!

Use LFE only. Phase start with 0 then run Audyssey, Audyssey will take care of the phase.

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Added on July 27, 2010, 10:03 pmMy friend, what is this new invention called headphone record camera?

And I like ur suggestion that the digital camera will sound clear with bass pickup too... but "headphone" record camera is crap!



This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jul 27 2010, 10:03 PM

Reduce the gain on the sub and rerun Audyssey...

Pod emerging scene and laser blaster scene...

Pairing a sealed with a ported for movies, concerts primarily I presume? Shd be no problem, make sure u run Audyssey with both turned on. Of course if u have a AS-EQ1 it would do all for u.

For 2 channel music, not really recommended. Unless u can find the optimum placement for both and u can ensure u cannot localize the subs. The sealed will be easier to integrate.

Thats the spirit!

How is ur new sub whacking ur old subbie....the old one run far far away

rx is kiddinglah!.....Thats how he is....Don't take it so seriously.

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Added on August 8, 2010, 8:05 amWith a good subwoofer, a good bookshelf is sufficient.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 8 2010, 08:05 AM

Maybe i misunderstood ur statement when u said bookshelf ok or not. The main issue with most bookshelves is the low end,hence my statement that if paired wth a proper sub shd be ok.

Penang u can get from Watts Hi-Fi.

The Onkyos definately work well for movies. Not too good for music.

2 subs is the way to go, for sure.

Also, this is one thing. So far, I hv heard the following subs, eD a7s-650, Rythmik F15, Seaton Submersive, SB13U, PB13U, PC12, Dali IkonSub, Sunfire, Velo DD12, Velo CHT series and some others.

There is nothing that I know that comes close to the the max SPL of PB13U for movies except the Seaton (but it sounds different).

The sealed subs, get as loud and work very well for music, but for movies that port build up sound and the sheer raw power of the PB13U are very difficult to beat. Get a pair with an AS-EQ1, u shd be in bass heaven...

Dual sub is the way to go....and oh, get an AS-EQ1 as well. The sound signature shd not change too much with the amps, as the internals of the cabinet and drivers are all the same. The DPS amps allow more tweaking (not for the user) to attempt to push more out of the driver but the BASH amps are no pushover either.

My advise get a pre/power, the difference is worth it.

U want 140dB, go stand in the runway when the plane is landing....

GSC bass is crap so don't give this nonsense. The bass u get fron svs will rock ur behind.So pls spare us this torture and buy one from htkaki since he has been putting up with ur you tube bass auditioning for so long!

SVS's PB13U is a fantastic subwoofer with no questions. They are loud and with the right extension go low as well. If u can afford it, they are great for movies and multiples are even better.

I hv to spend sometime with one to see how it sounds for music shd u plug the holes. Sealing a vented sub technically makes it a aperiodic sub so I would need to hear to see if the port noises can be heard. But for movies, it shd be close to the king of subs.

The kings of subs is always relative, as it depends on the price range and others. A lot of DIY can beat most commercial subs pretty easily as its a function of the size and amp power as well as enclosure size.