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post Jun 25 2015, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jun 24 2015, 07:48 PM)
This is very true IF you know what you are doing. Minimal help from the brokers and the cheapest you can find is AmeSec now. BUT if you need guidance and hand holding, then you need to find a broker that can provide this. In this case, you will need to pay more because now service is better and guidance is also better. In this context, not many broker out there can do it. Some claim they can do it BUT after you sign the account, they suddenly become quiet.

Base on my personal experience, I have signup account with a few. The only broker that offer excellent service and at the same time affordable rate is still Hong Leong eBroking.
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from your point, im new blood, need guidance, AmeSec might not a wise choice for me then smile.gif
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I been with Jupiter for years...no complaints
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post Sep 1 2015, 09:10 PM

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Have a nob question ... why the brokerage fees is lower when you do it online compared to call in to the broker house.

Do the phone call buy/sell gets priority compared to the online transactions or its first come first served?
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post Sep 1 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Sep 1 2015, 09:10 PM)
Have a nob question ... why the brokerage fees is lower when you do it online compared to call in to the broker house.

Do the phone call buy/sell gets priority compared to the online transactions or its first come first served?
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same priorities iinm, normally call orders have higher brokerage (in USA lah) not sure here.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 25 2015, 01:37 PM)
I been with Jupiter for years...no complaints
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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Sep 1 2015, 09:10 PM)
Have a nob question ... why the brokerage fees is lower when you do it online compared to call in to the broker house.

Do the phone call buy/sell gets priority compared to the online transactions or its first come first served?
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(1) Machine layan u
(2) Human layan u

Isn't it obvious enough? tongue.gif
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(alextan99 @ Sep 1 2015, 09:10 PM)
Have a nob question ... why the brokerage fees is lower when you do it online compared to call in to the broker house.

Do the phone call buy/sell gets priority compared to the online transactions or its first come first served?
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If you call in, human resources required to attend to you and hence higher charges. Online is automated and with ecomomies of scale and thus cheaper. If your platform is already on and ready, buying online should be faster compared to call in. Call in sometimes broker might not be free yet. Online you key in yourself.
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Hello,
I was transferred here from 'https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3696882&st=0&p=76181198&#entry76181198'

There are a few brokers which interest me because of their commissions. However, due to convenience, I would prefer HLeBroking. Is there any remisier here who I can contact?

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QUOTE(carrer @ Sep 2 2015, 05:25 AM)
Hello,
I was transferred here from 'https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3696882&st=0&p=76181198&#entry76181198'

There are a few brokers which interest me because of their commissions. However, due to convenience, I would prefer HLeBroking. Is there any remisier here who I can contact?
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It's true. But I don't actually need a sophisticated platform. Just a platform with price charts is adequate.

Cheaper commissions will save you a lot of money, especially when your positions are large.

Thanks.


Back to your 'old' reply.... before the lockdown... lol

1. Most offer charting software... but not all the same.
Some is really 'useless' la...
and some system is not even reliable and they offer terrible 'service'....
some has teething problems whenever one banks in or withdraws......
so....the cheapest brokerage house might not necessary offer you the best option....


2. When I trade, making money is much more important than saving money.
Cheap trades seduces and teaches one to embark a much riskier trading style - ie one is seduced to trade for scraps.
This is not to say such trading does not work, in fact some really good traders can make a good living on such scraps....
but the majority mati katak one....
cos it induces poor trading decisions...
the trader usually takes the small profits when instead they could have had a nice 'jackpot' of a winning trade....
they sell cos they got the easy option offered by cheap brokerage, hence ruining their big winning trades....
and trading more often does not necessary equates to a better trading strategy....
which is why I said cheap does not guarantee one winning (as in long term)

anyway... poison is always subjective la.... tongue.gif
to each their own....


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post Sep 2 2015, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 2 2015, 06:30 AM)
Back to your 'old' reply.... before the lockdown... lol

1. Most offer charting software... but not all the same.
Some is really 'useless' la...
and some system is not even reliable and they offer terrible 'service'....
some has teething problems whenever one banks in or withdraws......
so....the cheapest brokerage house might not necessary offer you the best option....
2. When I trade, making money is much more important than saving money.
Cheap trades seduces and teaches one to embark a much riskier trading style - ie one is seduced to trade for scraps.
This is not to say such trading does not work, in fact some really good traders can make a good living on such scraps....
but the majority mati katak one....
cos it induces poor trading decisions...
the trader usually takes the small profits when instead they could have had a nice 'jackpot' of a winning trade....
they sell cos they got the easy option offered by cheap brokerage, hence ruining their big winning trades....
and trading more often does not necessary equates to a better trading strategy....
which is why I said cheap does not guarantee one winning (as in long term)

anyway... poison is always subjective la....  tongue.gif
to each their own....
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1. If your 'useless' is implying the platforms non-reliableness, then it is of my concern. If the platform keeps on crashing or not executing my trades, it is definitely a concern. I don't trade intraday, I usually hold my positions for weeks or months. I only look at the Daily chart and above. Therefore, as long as the platform can fulfill these requirements, it should be okay.
I don't mind paying a little more commissions to avoid the depositing and withdrawing problems.
If you have a broker of recommendation, please do let me know.

2. I will give you an example.

Assuming that my account is 200 MYR.
I am buying a 100 shares priced at RM2 (RM2*100 = RM200)
CIMB iTrade commissions = RM200*0.42%(in this case RM28, minimum brokerage fees)+RM20(stamp duty) = RM 48

HLeBroking commissions = RM200*0.1%(in this case RM8)+RM20 = RM 28

[I am not sure if the commissions are a round-trip commission or not]
My stock price has to move RM 0.24 for iTrade, and RM 0.14 for HLeBroking to break even.
In percentage, my stock has to move 12% for iTrade and 7% for HLeBroking.
They are significantly different.

I am using 200 to show how significant the commission is to low capital traders.


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post Sep 2 2015, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(carrer @ Sep 2 2015, 02:30 PM)
1. If your 'useless' is implying the platforms non-reliableness, then it is of my concern. If the platform keeps on crashing or not executing my trades, it is definitely a concern. I don't trade intraday, I usually hold my positions for weeks or months. I only look at the Daily chart and above. Therefore, as long as the platform can fulfill these requirements, it should be okay.
I don't mind paying a little more commissions to avoid the depositing and withdrawing problems.
If you have a broker of recommendation, please do let me know.

2. I will give you an example.

Assuming that my account is 200 MYR.
I am buying a 100 shares priced at RM2 (RM2*100 = RM200)
CIMB iTrade commissions = RM200*0.42%(in this case RM28, minimum brokerage fees)+RM20(stamp duty) = RM 48

HLeBroking commissions = RM200*0.1%(in this case RM8)+RM20 = RM 28

[I am not sure if the commissions are a round-trip commission or not]
My stock price has to move RM 0.24 for iTrade, and RM 0.14 for HLeBroking to break even.
In percentage, my stock has to move 12% for iTrade and 7% for HLeBroking.
They are significantly different.

I am using 200 to show how significant the commission is to low capital traders.
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My comments are just random...
Just give a good thought and wish you the best in your trading.

Don't rush to be in this game....
Know who you are yourself thoroughly....

Cheers

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post Sep 2 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 2 2015, 04:07 PM)
smile.gif

My comments are just random...
Just give a good thought and wish you the best in your trading.

Don't rush to be in this game....
Know who you are yourself thoroughly....

Cheers
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post Sep 3 2015, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(carrer @ Sep 2 2015, 02:30 PM)
1. If your 'useless' is implying the platforms non-reliableness, then it is of my concern. If the platform keeps on crashing or not executing my trades, it is definitely a concern. I don't trade intraday, I usually hold my positions for weeks or months. I only look at the Daily chart and above. Therefore, as long as the platform can fulfill these requirements, it should be okay.
I don't mind paying a little more commissions to avoid the depositing and withdrawing problems.
If you have a broker of recommendation, please do let me know.

2. I will give you an example.

Assuming that my account is 200 MYR.
I am buying a 100 shares priced at RM2 (RM2*100 = RM200)
CIMB iTrade commissions = RM200*0.42%(in this case RM28, minimum brokerage fees)+RM20(stamp duty) = RM 48

HLeBroking commissions = RM200*0.1%(in this case RM8)+RM20 = RM 28

[I am not sure if the commissions are a round-trip commission or not]
My stock price has to move RM 0.24 for iTrade, and RM 0.14 for HLeBroking to break even.
In percentage, my stock has to move 12% for iTrade and 7% for HLeBroking.
They are significantly different.

I am using 200 to show how significant the commission is to low capital traders.
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Your computation is wrong...stamp duty only RM1 per RM1,000, so since less than RM1000, stamp duty only RM1. U have not factored clearing fee in at 0.03% (have to also incl 6% GST, so it's 0.0318%. Stamp duty no GET but brokerage got.
So it's -
CIMB - 29.68 + 1 + 0.06 = 30.74
HL - 8.48 + 1 + 0.06 = 9.46
AB - 6.36 + 1 + 0.06 = 7.42.

Yes, U also have to pay the usual brokerage + stamp duty + clearing fee when U sell. So your share has to go up to above RM2.60 for CIMB, RM2.20 for HL and RM2.15 for AB B4 U can even think of selling to make a profit.

Anyway, no issue for me using AB as to depositing and withdrawal as I use my AmBank savings ac to deposit and withdraw online. If I want to buy shares today, I'll just have to login to my trading ac and make an on9 transfer from my AB ac to my trading ac B4 8am, and then I can start buying stock on that day itself. I just need to login to my trading ac to make a withdrawal to my AB savings ac B4 about 9am and the funds will be depoisted to my savings ac by about noon. I've been using AmeSecurities for about 2 yrs already and have yet to encounter any major problem. Also their customer service is good; u can call them directly or send an email.

This post has been edited by topearn: Sep 3 2015, 02:42 PM
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post Sep 3 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Sep 3 2015, 02:41 PM)
Your computation is wrong...stamp duty only RM1 per RM1,000, so since less than RM1000, stamp duty only RM1. U have not factored clearing fee in at 0.03% (have to also incl 6% GST, so it's 0.0318%. Stamp duty no GET but brokerage got.
So it's -
CIMB - 29.68 + 1 + 0.06 = 30.74
HL - 8.48 + 1 + 0.06 = 9.46
AB - 6.36 + 1 + 0.06 = 7.42.

Yes, U also have to pay the usual brokerage + stamp duty + clearing fee when U sell. So your share has to go up to above RM2.60 for CIMB, RM2.20 for HL and RM2.15 for AB B4 U can even think of selling to make a profit.

Anyway, no issue for me using AB as to depositing and withdrawal as I use my AmBank savings ac to deposit and withdraw online. If I want to buy shares today, I'll just have to login to my trading ac and make an on9 transfer from my AB ac to my trading ac B4 8am, and then I can start buying stock on that day itself. I just need to login to my trading ac to make a withdrawal to my AB savings ac B4 about 9am and the funds will be depoisted to my savings ac by about noon. I've been using AmeSecurities for about 2 yrs already and have yet to encounter any major problem. Also their customer service is good; u can call them directly or send an email.
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Thanks for the correction.

I will consider AmeSecurities.
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What about trading futures?
Which broker is good as in rates (for ikan bilis) and support?

Thanks!
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post Oct 4 2015, 08:24 PM

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ambank Amsecurities really provide non updated services.

Now already Oct 2015, but the data only update until Sept 2014..

http://www.basepic.com/2015/Oct/04/15157829.jpg

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QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 4 2015, 08:24 PM)
ambank Amsecurities really provide non updated services.

Now already Oct 2015, but the data only update until Sept 2014..

http://www.basepic.com/2015/Oct/04/15157829.jpg

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You get what you pay for.. smile.gif

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ecm now under kenanga becoming very expensive. am I right?
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lol no one mention bout RHB Tradesmart?
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QUOTE(carrer @ Sep 2 2015, 02:30 PM)

Assuming that my account is 200 MYR.
I am buying a 100 shares priced at RM2 (RM2*100 = RM200)
CIMB iTrade commissions = RM200*0.42%(in this case RM28, minimum brokerage fees)+RM20(stamp duty) = RM 48

HLeBroking commissions = RM200*0.1%(in this case RM8)+RM20 = RM 28

[I am not sure if the commissions are a round-trip commission or not]
My stock price has to move RM 0.24 for iTrade, and RM 0.14 for HLeBroking to break even.
In percentage, my stock has to move 12% for iTrade and 7% for HLeBroking.
They are significantly different.

I am using 200 to show how significant the commission is to low capital traders.
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i use Malacca Securities, the fee is much lower, not RM48, not RM28, only around RM14.00+/-

Best is , i can also claim back the transfer fees of shares from my prev brokers , UOB Kayhian, OSK,

This post has been edited by guy3288: Oct 17 2015, 09:25 AM

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