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 Transformers Thread V38, Rolling out!

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post Dec 14 2009, 03:41 PM

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aishhh wth ! this early ahh ! it is good but its not good for my pocket ! shieT ! doh.gif rclxub.gif
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post Dec 14 2009, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Thunderclash @ Dec 14 2009, 03:38 PM)
FYI, Korean Megalo Convoy is almost the same as Japanese Megalo but the legend Prime is not metallic red, only bright red. Very nice if you don't have the Japanese Megalo. Hey Orestes, better grab them fast otherwise they will sell out fast!  tongue.gif
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owhhh yeke??? then not worth it laa.... i thought the korean and takara will have 100% identical on the toys ... iskk... btw guys... if you buy megalo, dont forget to get other 3 planet leaders ok... this is to awaken primussss...
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QUOTE(Thunderclash @ Dec 14 2009, 03:40 PM)
Hey Judge, don't worry. Plenty of stock for the Korean Wing Saber aka Sonic Bomber. But you should call Ah Kok to reserve for you. Very affordable piece. If not because I have the Japanese version, I would most certainly grab it.  smile.gif
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ye betol2.... get sonic bomber... and convoy and liggy too...
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post Dec 14 2009, 03:48 PM

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Hey Orestes, How come you didn't know the Korean and Japanese are slightly different? Everybody knows that the Korean version is not as good as the Japanese version! Anyway, if I am not wrong, Kok doesn't have Flame Convoy and Live Convoy yet.

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post Dec 14 2009, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Dec 14 2009, 03:32 PM)
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Hasbro, sure is trolling Transformers toys collector. brows.gif
One question, last weekend i saw Tank Bludgeon in Timemachine.
Only one piece though.
I notice the plastic quality on it is actually quite bad.
Is this normal?

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post Dec 14 2009, 03:51 PM

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not good for the pocket...ive already targetted to replace my ride tyres with a Toyo R888...
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post Dec 14 2009, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Thunderclash @ Dec 14 2009, 03:48 PM)
Hey Orestes, How come you didn't know the Korean and Japanese are slightly different? Everybody knows that the Korean version is not as good as the Japanese version! Anyway, if I am not wrong, Kok doesn't have Flame Convoy and Live Convoy yet.
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seriously didnt know that... i thought they were 100% just as same like takara... i mean, sonic bomber korean and takara.. both have gold chrome chestplate rite? any other difference between them?

if this true.. then it's good.. we should state if there's any significant differences between those 2 brands... and if somehow we see somebody selling "loose" gf toy.. and claim it as takara.. we can check it if it's true takara or actually korean...

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flame convoy and live convoy dont know if they got korean treatment... as i know, not all toys in a series will have a complete korean treatment... like car robots, only 50% in the series were made produced into koreans ...
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post Dec 14 2009, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(mecharojak @ Dec 14 2009, 03:50 PM)
Hasbro, sure is trolling Transformers toys collector.  brows.gif
One question, last weekend i saw Tank Bludgeon in Timemachine.
Only one piece though.
I notice the plastic quality on it is actually quite bad.
Is this normal?
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What do you mean the plastic quality is actually quite bad? I have one piece bought from Parkson 1U. The quality okay. I saw plenty of Bludgeon in Toys R Us and other Parkson outlets. Quality ok.
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post Dec 14 2009, 03:57 PM

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probably you meant from the color scheme..?
it's subjective to say if the toy plastic quality bad... but sometimes, the color scheme can make the toy looks like too toyish ... like KO ..
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post Dec 14 2009, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Thunderclash @ Dec 14 2009, 03:55 PM)
What do you mean the plastic quality is actually quite bad? I have one piece bought from Parkson 1U. The quality okay. I saw plenty of Bludgeon in Toys R Us and other Parkson outlets. Quality ok.
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That particular unit i looked at, the plastic looks like banding marks on the green surface, like fading.
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post Dec 14 2009, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(orestes @ Dec 14 2009, 03:54 PM)
seriously didnt know that... i thought they were 100% just as same like takara... i mean, sonic bomber korean and takara.. both have gold chrome chestplate rite? any other difference between them?

if this true.. then it's good.. we should state if there's any significant differences between those 2 brands... and if somehow we see somebody selling "loose" gf toy.. and claim it as takara.. we can check it if it's true takara or actually korean...

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flame convoy and live convoy dont know if they got korean treatment... as i know, not all toys in a series will have a complete korean treatment... like car robots, only 50% in the series were made produced into koreans ...
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Come on Orestes. Since when Takara has let other sister companies in Hasbro reproduce the same toys with the same quality. Heck, even ROTF Hasbro Optimus Prime is different from ROTF Takara Optimus Prime. There are minute details that are more in the Takara version compared to the Hasbro's. laugh.gif

The Sonic Bomber Korean version's chrome is quite nice. Much better than the Hasbro solid yellow but there is some difference in the head/eyes sculpt. Even the paint job of the Korean version is a bit lousy. To sum up, the Korean version has plastics that are not as nice as the Takara version. Dunno whether there is any inferiority or not but if you put the two versions together, you can see the difference in quality. Very very minor only. You need to have really sharp eyes to really tell them if they are not put together!

Anyway, we will see whether Ah Kok will bring in the other Convoys but I didn't manage to check out Nitro Convoy. But I am pretty sure that there is bound to be some difference.
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post Dec 14 2009, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(mecharojak @ Dec 14 2009, 03:58 PM)
That particular unit i looked at, the plastic looks like banding marks on the green surface, like fading.
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I think you mean that the plastic has some fine marks? If that is the case, it is how they do the injection moulding! I didn't detect any fading whatsoever in the ten odd pieces I checked out. Maybe it is the lighting?

Anyways, the picture I posted didn't show the Bludgeon looks very toyish. Otherwise, just wait for toy specialty shops to carry them. I heard before Christmas. Do check with them.
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post Dec 14 2009, 04:06 PM

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if you look at the korean toy, it has takara hot stamping on the mold... yeah of course there's difference on the chestplate between hasbro and takara... but im comparing wit the korean... both chrome, so it's identical...

but for megalo convoy... the mini gc .. metallic paint on takara ver and bright red on korean.. definitely a big turn off!
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post Dec 14 2009, 04:07 PM

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too bad i dont have a takara big convoy to compare with sonokong one ..
but if i am not mistaken, last time kok did do some comparison for them side by side and they cant differentiate them

my sonokong big convoy tusk got abit yellowish .. wonder how to polist it into white again ? XD
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post Dec 14 2009, 04:10 PM

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hi,

can post the pricing of those at famitoys?

maybe an indicative pricing if not the actual


Added on December 14, 2009, 4:10 pmhi,

can post the pricing of those at famitoys?

maybe an indicative pricing if not the actual




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post Dec 14 2009, 04:11 PM

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I am in the plastics manufacturing line and therefore familiar with the different grades of plastic.

When it come to the mold there can be two possibilities:
1. TakaraTomy sent the mold to Mocom for them to use and manufacture
2. OR Mocom developed a brand new mold themself

When it come to the grade of the plastic:
1. Different supplier may offer different grades of plastic so unless Takara or Hasbro controls the grade of plastic from one supplier then it is safe to say its the same.

When it come to painting the plastic
1. If it is done by manual labor then every piece will be different and it boils down to the level of QC in the respective factory.

Frankly speaking we do not know if the mold is the same or the grade of plastic is the same therefore it is hard to conclude that TakaraTomy is superior to Mocom. Maybe in terms of their QC but judging from TakaraTomy's recent quality I have my doubts.

Lastly, whether its TakaraTomy (Japan), Mocom (Korea), Hasbro (USA)... its still "Made in China" smile.gif

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post Dec 14 2009, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(orestes @ Dec 14 2009, 04:06 PM)
if you look at the korean toy, it has takara hot stamping on the mold... yeah of course there's difference on the chestplate between hasbro and takara... but im comparing wit the korean... both chrome, so it's identical...

but for megalo convoy... the mini gc .. metallic paint on takara ver and bright red on korean.. definitely a big turn off!
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Even the chrome is not 100% the same.

But Megalo looks very very nice le. Maybe you can get it and donate the Megalo to me? biggrin.gif

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post Dec 14 2009, 04:14 PM

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betol2... all were made in china... hehehhehe...

and for big convoy.. i have the korean.. and frankly im satisfied wit the quality and built ... though i hate the instruction manual... mammoth > robot .. where the toy came in robot form ... confusing.. hehe...


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QUOTE(Thunderclash @ Dec 14 2009, 04:13 PM)
Even the chrome is not 100% the same.
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what do you mean by that? unique in term of the way it was painted...? or the material used?
both used gold chrome flakes .. color is just as same..

if it's about material.. then just like jason said.. in the production process, they used different grade of chrome laa... where last time takara used nippon brand gold chrome... and korean used wintersonata gold chrome ... same color code, different brand

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post Dec 14 2009, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(JasonSky @ Dec 14 2009, 04:11 PM)
I am in the plastics manufacturing line and therefore familiar with the different grades of plastic.

When it come to the mold there can be two possibilities:
1. TakaraTomy sent the mold to Mocom for them to use and manufacture
2. OR Mocom developed a brand new mold themself

When it come to the grade of the plastic:
1. Different supplier may offer different grades of plastic so unless Takara or Hasbro controls the grade of plastic from one supplier then it is safe to say its the same.

When it come to painting the plastic
1. If it is done by manual labor then every piece will be different and it boils down to the level of QC in the respective factory.

Frankly speaking we do not know if the mold is the same or the grade of plastic is the same therefore it is hard to conclude that TakaraTomy is superior to Mocom. Maybe in terms of their QC but judging from TakaraTomy's recent quality I have my doubts.

Lastly, whether its TakaraTomy (Japan), Mocom (Korea), Hasbro (USA)... its still "Made in China" smile.gif
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You are right. All Made in China. But do you know that TakTomy controls their quality more stringently compared to their sister companies? This is ensure their superior resale value in future. Look at all the Transformer lines. Japanese toys are much better compared to non-Japanese produced lines. All use the same mould. So, I think it is the resin used which in my opinion is slightly better.

Anyway, this is just my 2 cents worth. smile.gif

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post Dec 14 2009, 04:23 PM

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Have you seen chrome of different brightness? Good chrome shines while retaining the original color.

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post Dec 14 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Thunderclash @ Dec 14 2009, 04:19 PM)
You are right. All Made in China. But do you know that TakTomy controls their quality more stringently compared to their sister companies? This is ensure their superior resale value in future. Look at all the Transformer lines. Japanese toys are much better compared to non-Japanese produced lines. All use the same mould. So, I think it is the resin used which in my opinion is slightly better.

Anyway, this is just my 2 cents worth.  smile.gif
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Yeap maybe its the manual labor? As I notice the quality of the plastics is quite similar only difference is the paint/chrome applications. Guess TakTom's QC on that is still superior to the rest. How nice if it was produce in Japan with Japanese manual labor and stringent QC but then I think the retail price will be doubled tongue.gif

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