That is one way to put it. And people these days are children in the playground argueing about who's imaginary friend is better. ayep.

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This post has been edited by marsalee: Nov 13 2010, 08:07 PM

http://www.ahjonline.com/article/PIIS00028...006496/abstract

That's one of them. There are many more studies. If you do a literature search many more will turn up.

Oh, my God is a god of grace, the god of love, and the god of everything...
I find life very GOOD..Fu##### GOOD!! In times of trouble, he is there for me..
He helps me all the time..I love getting into his presence every single day..love communicating with him,
and see miracles that performed by him! In fact, i know my purpose in my life..there are many testimonies out there
that describe the wonderful things that God has done into many lifes..healing, prosperity etc, and the best of all,
He knows me intimately and LOVES me infinately! I love you Jesus! Because you first love me!

yeah..just because you been living in a shell of your own life does not means GOD is great. Look the the people who died of hunger or some innocent child died from some car accident. Then tell me god love them. You are just living in denial. Wait till you see someone you love dearly pass away. Then feel the sting. And don't give me the crap of god has taken them to a better place.

abubin,

I have felt the sting of losing a loved one. Not once, but three times. Yes, that made me doubt God. And when bad things happen, I wondered if He existed at all.

As a matter of fact, I've led my life in a path that is way beyond what I wanted. Things happen after another and sometimes I look at God with anger.

I'm sure God has been pretty unpopular among people like us, people who have gone through a shit load of life events. After all, it's always easier to blame or be angry at Someone who is supposed to be in charge of everything, who is supposed to make things better.

But, spare me a minute. Have you heard of His son Jesus?

He most certainly did not live in the shell of his own life. Temptation? He's got it straight from the source. Mockery? You have no idea the millions of people who hated him despite his holy identity. Betrayal? By his very own disciple, leading him straight to the hands of enemies. Pain? Look at the cross. Losing a loved one? He was the darling of heaven. God's most precious son. How would you feel if you gave up your one and only Son to save the very people who led him to his death?

Everything you've felt, or have been feeling.. God has felt them too... He knows.

Why do bad things happen? I don't know if I should go any deeper into this. If you are willing to discuss, feel free to message me. =) Peace.

Ah, lets keep the Islam vs Christianity out of this please. A forethought.


Indeed, if we take it into context, Jesus Christ surely has suffered more than anything we can suffer. I believe, one shouldn't refer to deities as "Fix-it" or solutions to life's problems, but rather as inspirations (guides) for people. After all, I don't think many of us have seen a miracle, so just keep living on huh.

Ah, I wasn't intending to go there. Sorry if it seemed like so. No offense. =)

Guys, you should really check about Enlil and Enki

pls google it and judge by ur own sense

Well sticking to the main title. Define your God.
God, a being that transcense our understanding. A being for spiritual support. Thus if one does not have a need that cannot be satisfied, one does not turn to God.

No no, it was just a forewarning. People tend to get offended easily.

My definition of God : The Universe is God.


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pantheism?

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Added on February 25, 2010, 5:37 pmI'm not sure if I can ask this question here.. let me know if I can't.

May I know which church are you from?.

Besides, I would like to share with you all a story about my dear friend. She is the type of girl that is very gentle and polite, kind hearted and soft spoken but strong at heart (though she doesn't seem like one). And not to mention, her studies. Always scored A's(probably can't afford to fail especially when you're on a scholarship).

Her family are Buddhist.. except herself; One day, she came to know of one church called (the Acts church) ..hmm.. I'm not sure if I get the spelling correct. I remember she told me the church is located inside The Summit. Anyway, she came to know about "Jesus" since 13. And from then on, she is "so into Christianity". Always talks about her God to us at college..Always seeing her distributing weekly flyers from her church at college main entrance!! *till that extend* and always invite us (college friends) to attend her church service on Sundays. Btw, this story happens close to 1 year ago.

So one fine day, a friend of ours organized a food pot luck party gathering at one of our friend's empty house and we were all invited, and was told to bring along our friendsss as well.. *the more the merrier*. During that gathering, she brought along a guy friend and later introduce to us that he is the youth leader from their church(the Acts church). So we tease her with that guy but she denied and said they were just friends. And yes, they were just friends.. but months later, we got the news that they got together.

A few months later, she flew to UK to further her law degree.. (at that period of time, we seldom keep in touch).. but not until one night she ring me up from UK telling me about her situation. She sounded so in fear.

I found out that the guy she was dating wasn't a good person! He slapped her occasionally when my friend couldn't spend time with him when she needs to study for her exams. He is very very hot tempered. So she wanted the break up. *there's so many things that the guy did to her* ..

Anyway, one fine day that guy flew to UK and surprised her at her door step just to patch things up but my friend didn't want to accept him back anymore because of his character. Again that guy slapped her and left. But the next day he return back at her door step and said he was sorry and promised he would not disturbed her anymore. And he flew back to Malaysia. But hours later he text her saying he took her credit card and will come back again to UK to return it back to her. A few days later he turn up in front of her doorstep and return the credit card and left (we do not know where he stays). The next day he return to Malaysia and while he's inside the flight, he text her saying he used her credit card to book the flight ticket to and flow and ends the sms with a smile *wink*. (he must have took it from her when he visits her with housemates). And btw, that guy got her UK contact from her parents. The parents were so against her daughter being a christian at that time. So my friend didn't want her parents to know about this guy's true character.



So people, how can a church Youth Leader behave this way?? very bad impression he portrays.





Another thing I would like to ask all Christians out there who describe about your God .. I have a few questions that I would love to know:



1. why do some churches change their bible to suit human needs? . what happens in revelation 22:18-19 ?


2. why some Christians celebrate Christmas? isn't that pageant worship and has nothing to do with Christianity? ..it's a worship of the sun God?


3. Baptism. I saw some churches baptized their going-to-be church members at the swimming pool? or at a tub? . I thought the Bible clearly mentioned that we have to be baptized in living/running water only then we will have a part in him. Living and running water = sea, river. Somewhere in the bible someone was baptized in the desert and he was just sprinkled with water from the desert but hey, those times are in old testament? didn't God asked us to be baptized in running and living water now? . Furthermore, water from the desert is running water as the water travels underneath unlike at the pond, swimming pool, tub..etc. To me, this is serious matter, as the bible clearly mention that if we do not do that accordingly, we shall have no part in him.


4. Easter day. what is that? .. the bible didn't mention?


5. the Holy Spirit. Speaking about the HS, we talk about tongues. Here, I notice some churches needs to practice to speak in tongues. Which means, they need to go for classes with their pastors to practice reading some scriptures repeatably.. and they would read it very fast and after they managed to catch up with the speed, they're considered called having the HS. I thought the HS is given by God? .. somewhere in the bible mention that when a person receives the HS, you will feel warm coming down from your head, a feeling of comfort & glad, and the bible gives many example of how a person receive the HS, but it wasn't in that manner of practicing/ attending training classes to receive the HS.


6. Slain. Some churches practice slain.. I believe the purposes of slain is to make them fall into a deep sleep to be filled with God's grace? please correct me if I'm wrong. And after a person wakes up, one will feel very tired and exhausted (like there's no more strength). I was just wondering why one will feel so unwell after they wake up?


7. the blood & flesh of Jesus. During Holy Communion, I observe some churches use Rebina and flour (which is bought from the supermarket in packet form). I thought the bread must be just made of plain flour mix with water which has been stated inside the bible. And the packet biscuit / bread has contents such as sugar..etc. And why Rebina? . Don't you guys think is a wrong practice? . Where else some churches use red wine. But if you read the bible correctly, we should be using pure grape juice & pure flour.


8. Sabbath Day. Sabbath day should be on the 7th day of the week, for God rested on the 7th day. Which means, the Sabbath day is on a Saturday, and not Sunday. Most churches make it on Sunday for the convenience of the people.. but hey, what are we all busy about in this world? what's our purpose in life? aren't we supposed to keep ourselves in God's grace and wait for his 2nd coming?


no offense all, I am still learning.. Just don't know why some churches don't follow according to what the bible says and wonders if this bible verse applies to those who did not follow according to the bible revelation 22:18-19


ps/ please do not get offended as I am just like everyone else, searching for the truth

This post has been edited by g r a p e k e y: Feb 25 2010, 05:52 PM

Refer to the Roman Catholic Church..

Since it was set up by the diciple St. Peter(The Rock) who was told by Jesus Christ to go and set up Jesus's Church and preach to the world.

Catholic churches use Wine and they make their own Bread..

Easter Sunday, is the day when Jesus Christ accended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the father..

Regarding sabbath day.. It is because we identify Monday as the 1st day of the week.. So definitely 7th day is on Sunday.

To me God is not an external being, but "The All" which consists of everything.

We're all part of everything so we're also part of God.

Law of Attraction

the Roman Catholic Church have their *own* bible ? aren't we suppose to use the universal bible which is by God and not by the Roman Catholic? We can't just modify words inside the bible can we?

Easter sunday was not mention in the bible at all.. there's no such practice.

in the calender, the first day is Sunday and not Monday. Please get your facts right. To please God or men?


we can't just deny things which are not written inside the bible.. anyway, we're all countable for everything we bring upon ourselves.

This post has been edited by g r a p e k e y: Mar 1 2010, 12:45 PM

No... Of course they didnt say Easter Sunday exactly..... Otherwise it should be called the Resurection & Accension of Jesus into heaven?

The catholic church just wanted to do it for reminder i assume..

Its the King James Version(KJV)..

What can I say?.... Even the chinese call monday as 1st day..

Chinese didn't define the name, just number. Although Malay have but a lot are using 1 to 12 months; Bulan 1 - bulan 12 and have our own calenders but we all have to use the English version because they gave us most of our practical knowledge.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Mar 1 2010, 03:16 PM

god is everything and nothing. Oh what a nice way of putting things into perspective eh? When something is part of everything then god is at the end. When something is part of nothing then god is at the end. God is everywhere and nowhere.

It's only playing with words. God is at extreme of everything.

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Added on March 3, 2010, 6:00 pmYour post is long, i only read the top part. Bottom part I don't really care since it is too specified on one religion.

One thing you must learn about human being irrespective of god exist or not is there are always bad apples. Even in police force there are bad police. Same as in churches there are bad pastor or bad iman or bad monk and so on. That is why religion has been twisted for personal gains. That is why I am so against people who follow religions blindly. Especially religions enforced on kids. Follow religion with a brain. Learn to interpret and analyze teachings with a clear conscience and mind.


This post has been edited by abubin: Mar 3 2010, 06:00 PM