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polkiuj
post Mar 9 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Mar 8 2010, 04:35 PM)
i'm not good in modding, perhaps help out this uncle?  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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Haha! Just drop it at Dannie's and soon it'll come out different. Our hands are too itchy anyway. =D


QUOTE(LightJunk @ Mar 8 2010, 05:49 PM)
Hi polkiuj,

I have not received the triple X_PG  sad.gif . I have the triple R2 with double SOB1100 drivers 4-16V capabilities which I bought from bigchelis of CPF  smile.gif . This is the same one he asked MrGman to test in the sphere. That reading you copied above is the one that mine gave out  nod.gif .  It's very bright and I'm powering it with 2 IMR26500 in a FM 2C.
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Aww man... That's horrible! Hope you get it soon man. The triple XP-E R2 is just WOW!


QUOTE(porkchop @ Mar 8 2010, 09:10 PM)
wanna ask about battery life and charging here....as usage goes, the batt life lesser and we can notice the light power is lesser......do you guys recommend to charge immediately or drain straight down to cannot power up then only charge?? i am not sure should i charge now cos i kinda like the uber brightness when i put in fresh battery
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Hey porkchop (lol),
You can charge a li-ion batt anytime. There won't be too much bad effects.


QUOTE(susuman @ Mar 8 2010, 09:26 PM)
Nowadays battery do not need to drain down to gives better power (the infamous NiCd Memory effect), but many ppl still practice to drain battery every time, try any cellphone dealers, they will tell you that.

In fact, Lithium battery (most of today's battery, including your cellphone and notebook) do not like discharge, if you use the battery more than 20% (80% left), its consider 1 cycle, and most battery has about 100-200 cycles life.

So try charge the battery whenever possible, but if you plan to store the battery for long time, try to charge around 50% and keep it in dry and cool place.
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Err susuman, actually a full 100%>0%>100% is considered one load-cycle. That means a total discharge and charge. if you use to 80% then use 5 times is considered one load-cycle.

E.g. my laptop battery:
load-cycle = 351 <<(It has been thru 351 full discharges in total)
age = 26 months
current battery capacity = 4533 mAh (90%)

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post Mar 9 2010, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Mar 9 2010, 10:34 AM)
Err susuman, actually a full 100%>0%>100% is considered one load-cycle. That means a total discharge and charge. if you use to 80% then use 5 times is considered one load-cycle.
E.g. my laptop battery:
load-cycle = 351 <<(It has been thru 351 full discharges in total)
age = 26 months
current battery capacity = 4533 mAh (90%)
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Its depends on the battery sometimes, some battery just perform battery than other.

My old IBM notebook will record anything less than 80% as 1 cycle, your notebook will only record 1 load cycle if its run down to 0%??? What notebook you are using? As far as I know, the Li just don't like full discharge, it will shorten the life of the battery. in your case, your notebook seems to hold charges just even 351 full discharges, I am impressed, You always use it outdoor? Wonder how to manage a 351 cycle, haha rclxms.gif then the notebook must worth it lar. Most of the time I just plug my adapter, hardly use the battery, and almost never run down to 0% intentionally.

Oh yeah, some notebook or phone recommend to discharge full (run flat) once every 2 months is to allow the electronic/software in the machine to gauge how much charges it has in it. Not really exercising the battery.

351 cycle and still has 90% capacity, you lucky to have a set of good batteries.
I had a 8 year old notebook has this performance maybe 70-80%, they are also 1 old notebook just has 30-50% after 1-2 years. sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2010, 11:44 AM

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Hrm, what I understand from Silverfox is that once a battery is discharged to 80% of its initial capacity (whichever the amp hours), it is considered a cycle, regardless if it's lower.

Although about having more cycles (not because of a mathematical calculation, maybe chemistry), he stated in his comment from a lab test, that you can get more cycles doing partial discharge to 65% then charge again, instead of bring it down to say 0% for example.
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post Mar 9 2010, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Mar 9 2010, 11:26 AM)
Its depends on the battery sometimes, some battery just perform battery than other.

My old IBM notebook will record anything less than 80% as 1 cycle, your notebook will only record 1 load cycle if its run down to 0%??? What notebook you are using?  As far as  I know, the Li just don't like full discharge, it will shorten the life of the battery. in your case, your notebook seems to hold charges just even 351 full discharges, I am impressed, You always use it outdoor? Wonder how to manage a 351 cycle, haha rclxms.gif then the notebook must worth it lar. Most of the time I just plug my adapter, hardly use the battery, and almost never run down to 0% intentionally. 

Oh yeah, some notebook or phone recommend to discharge full (run flat) once every 2 months is to allow the electronic/software in the machine to gauge how much charges it has in it. Not really exercising the battery.

351 cycle and still has 90% capacity, you lucky to have a set of good batteries.
I had a 8 year old notebook has this performance maybe 70-80%, they are also 1 old notebook just has 30-50% after 1-2 years. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Mar 9 2010, 11:44 AM)
Hrm, what I understand from Silverfox is that once a battery is discharged to 80% of its initial capacity (whichever the amp hours), it is considered a cycle, regardless if it's lower.

Although about having more cycles (not because of a mathematical calculation, maybe chemistry), he stated in his comment from a lab test, that you can get more cycles doing partial discharge to 65% then charge again, instead of bring it down to say 0% for example.
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According to batteryuniversity, a load-cycle is a full discharge-charge cycle. Which means that if you use to 50% the charge then use to 50% then charge then it's considered 1 load-cycle. Wonder which is right? Mine surely records a full capacity charge and discharge before reading 1 load-cycle.

I dun run it to 0% lol. Since I'm using more than 2 years already, and using everyday, surely it's more than 351 load-cycles if any discharge to 80% is considered 1 load-cycle.

My laptop is a black Apple Macbook. It's lithium polymer. I use it everyday in the office with the batteries cos no plug point at my desk. =(

Ps. I take good care of my batteries. =D

This post has been edited by polkiuj: Mar 9 2010, 12:12 PM
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post Mar 9 2010, 12:12 PM

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Hi~

This thread might be of interest to anyone.

Especially those who wants to push the LED boundaries. =)

Walter


http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showth...t=89607&page=12
note: this page is where the XP-G and SST-90 testing is. Check out the XR-E too!

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post Mar 9 2010, 12:26 PM

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Hmm, interesting to find out more info and opinion about discharge cycle. Anyway Walter got a good battery, maybe bcoz it is Li-Polymer?? For normal 18650 liCo, you can expect it to degraded after 300 cycles.

Haha, wei, pull a extension to your desk lar. Though you have a good set of battery, but not good to stress it like that isn't it?
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post Mar 9 2010, 02:48 PM

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Hey guys, my friend for an M6 guardian for sale!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry31953644

rm1.2k brand new sealed! laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2010, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Mar 9 2010, 12:26 PM)
Hmm, interesting to find out more info and opinion about discharge cycle. Anyway Walter got a good battery, maybe bcoz it is Li-Polymer?? For normal 18650 liCo, you can expect it to degraded after 300 cycles.

Haha, wei, pull a extension to your desk lar. Though you have a good set of battery, but not good to stress it like that isn't it?
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Haha. Li-Po should behave almost exactly like LiCo just a little bit more capacity in a square shape. =D

I dun like to keep the batt 100% charged. It's not good for the batt. =D (I think so la)
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post Mar 9 2010, 03:13 PM

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Yea the lithium polymer batteries are known to have more life cycles than lithium cobalt. And can be made in different shapes so it seems. But still as sensitive like Li-co to danger and suffer cycle loss from overcharging and overdischaring too.
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post Mar 9 2010, 10:48 PM

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Hey guys.. Nice gathering man! My internet has been down since saturdy. Now im at a friend's place.

But great gathering. Love my M6+P7 now haha. LOVE FLOOD LIGHTS!

Guess wat, I made my own FO4 diffuser for my E1B. Will post it up whwn my internet at home is up and running
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post Mar 10 2010, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Zen|th @ Mar 9 2010, 10:48 PM)
Hey guys.. Nice gathering man! My internet has been down since saturdy. Now im at a friend's place.

But great gathering. Love my M6+P7 now haha. LOVE FLOOD LIGHTS!

Guess wat, I made my own FO4 diffuser for my E1B. Will post it up whwn my internet at home is up and running
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Heh~ Good thing you didn't decide to sell it. See? Give it a chance!

Now you gotta get a SST-90 or 50 in there. Heee!
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post Mar 10 2010, 11:38 AM

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Hey who was I talking to about the special anodized Nitecore D10 the other day??

There is still the patriot and whetstone editions available (for a very expensive price). Lol.
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post Mar 10 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Mar 10 2010, 11:38 AM)
Hey who was I talking to about the special anodized Nitecore D10 the other day??

There is still the patriot and whetstone editions available (for a very expensive price). Lol.
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Ahemm...i think that must be Dannie lolz
Give the link...i wan see.

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post Mar 10 2010, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Mar 10 2010, 12:23 PM)
Ahemm...i think that must be Dannie lolz
Give the link...i wan see.
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No la, it's not Dannie. Someone else.
http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=93_106
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post Mar 10 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Mar 10 2010, 12:35 PM)
No la, it's not Dannie. Someone else.
http://www.4sevens.com/index.php?cPath=93_106
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Ohhh that....then it's not Dannie. tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Mar 10 2010, 11:38 AM)
Hey who was I talking to about the special anodized Nitecore D10 the other day??

There is still the patriot and whetstone editions available (for a very expensive price). Lol.
Must be rachel whistling.gif laugh.gif
She should create an account and log in here to say hi or something biggrin.gif


Btw, about your LD10 UE version, Direct Drive XPG tongue.gif - As I recalled our test comparison at GW2U, the voltage on the 14500 was at around 3.9v? And drawing ~700mA..
I am still very surprised with how efficient the heat management on that mod with AW 14500 (talking about this battery only). Even with lower vf than XRE or XPE. Running DD with 14500 on an XRE can get really hot, but not on the XPG it seems. Is it because the XPG tolerances can take up to 1.5A? Or is it really because of the thermal compound mixture used? I think it's both. But what do you think? It looks like the XPGs can really be driven harder with the proper thermal compound and heatsink designed used. hmm.gif

Reminds me that Lightjunk's tripple XPG DD with 18650 with that awesome customed heatsink design is gonna rock the world! drool.gif
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QUOTE(Zen|th @ Mar 9 2010, 10:48 PM)
Hey guys.. Nice gathering man! My internet has been down since saturdy. Now im at a friend's place.

But great gathering. Love my M6+P7 now haha. LOVE FLOOD LIGHTS!

Guess wat, I made my own FO4 diffuser for my E1B. Will post it up whwn my internet at home is up and running
Hehe, gatherings can help a community grow brows.gif Eye opener, can learn lots of things or just chill. Right damonlbs? user posted image

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Btw guys, we are reaching nearer to V4. When we get there, I'll be migrating some of the important sections that matters only. Such as Dealer info, Collections, Battery info, reviews and maybe some other. Not all sections will go.

Newspaper, I'll let you know when I want to create V4, so we'll do it on a day both of us are online at the same time and you can reserve your GB posts. nod.gif
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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Mar 10 2010, 05:20 PM)
Hehe, gatherings can help a community grow brows.gif Eye opener, can learn lots of things or just chill. Right damonlbs? user posted image


huuh......? blink.gif

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QUOTE(pseudoblue @ Mar 10 2010, 05:20 PM)
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Btw guys, we are reaching nearer to V4. When we get there, I'll be migrating some of the important sections that matters only. Such as Dealer info, Collections, Battery info, reviews and maybe some other. Not all sections will go.
Mr. President, appreciate if you not make my previous collection as the anchor image in V4. Please give that honour to some of the other guys here. It's has been an honour to have been the anchor image for V3. My collection have shrunk very much due to the recent sale and more stuff will be on the chopping block again soon.

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alantch: Dude, u getting a polarion? Saw it in ur sig.

Anyways, seems like a possible good buy guys.

Flashmax G175 5 x Cree XR-E

Only Rm170...crazy...and including 2 18650s and charger. shocking.gif

There's a local guy selling for RM285

Mudah seller



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