Hi all, hope you understand that I'm getting into the busy cycle again and my feedback would be much later. I also spend time Skype with GF lately Sorry though.

At this point, I would just have to say, the choice is her's. If James happens to be her BF, and she chooses him, that's fate, I have really tried my best. Yes, it was my fault, I hope she could accept a fresh new Winner.

I beg to differ your point. What if James is a real Axxhole? What if James is a womaniser? Or James has debt under his belt? Isn't that I'm a savior?

I agree, I see no point James punched me, but I might appear aggressive. I was a bit aggressive in the past especially when drunk. She knows I like drinking and my slight aggressiveness when drunk.

In short, the choice is hers.

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Added on December 8, 2009, 12:30 pmAlright, I'm sheep A gentle sheep

So, you meant I skip flight? I might be kayu, but actually, I need to come back to conclude my research in NZ, after which I would be free and I might go London next year. Too much to contemplate during that one hour before flying. I communicate with her daily now, though I never ask about James and patching up. I'm afraid she gets worried.

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Added on December 8, 2009, 12:32 pmWhy should I listen to you with your "didi" remarks? The unfavourable joke that nobody cares, didn't you realize?

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Added on December 8, 2009, 12:33 pmPlagiarise? Please substantiate your claim. I would appreciate you show me who is plagiarising my love story.

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Added on December 8, 2009, 12:35 pm

Noted. Priapuseros vs. Dad

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Added on December 8, 2009, 12:38 pmPriority now:
C : your winne
A : your dad & mom
B : your job , your phd or watever

I have put my own priority (B) at last. Yeah, I have good job and prospect, supportive mum. I need Winne! She need my caring and love too

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Added on December 8, 2009, 12:40 pmWhy you want my picture? I don't think you'll believe my picture anyway. Even if I put up one, it will be censored (like JAV) with mosaic.

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Added on December 8, 2009, 12:41 pmNot twisted, but incomplete. There are some interesting parts that I skipped. Actually, other than flight tickets in my suit jacket, there were... secret! I think she was touched with those secrets.

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Coz Winne may not like the idea.

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Added on December 9, 2009, 12:05 pmMarrying a girl comes with a great responsibility to a guy. After so much discussion here, I hope you see the reality of marriage. Someone said we do not match because of the stark contrast among our families. I agree with their points that one should have a long insight what's gonna happen in long term. It's about bringing a happy life to her in the long term.

Now, say you do what you have preached, do you think your family will accept her with open heart? For any problems or issues, no doubt, she will be blamed. The fault is not at her side, it's me if you see in the bigger picture. It's me who never convince my family to accept her.

Just because I love her, and so dad should accept her is not gonna work for a rigid person like him.

I'm trying my best to convince my dad to see this in a holistic manner. Having said that, one should evaluate a daughter in law, with hands over heart, in a logical manner. I told my dad, what does golfing, swimming, attending important functions have to do with her as a mother, wife and daughter in law? She has been obedience and patience with me during the past eight years. I regret and realise that she's truly my GF.

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Added on December 9, 2009, 12:06 pmI will discuss with her. If she wants to stay in MY, well I'll follow.

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 9 2009, 12:06 PM

I replied about authenticity in this post.

There is no point for me to substantiate whatsoever. After all, we are already well into 23 pages. I appreciate the advice that I have got here, and I have achieved what I need out of CC.

There are >13000 views. If someone could tell I plagiarise, please show everyone where I have got this story from. With hands over heart, yes, it's my real love.

No. I'm not going to show any picture as I wish to remain anonymous. Even if I put up my pictures, I doubt you would believe them.

Why does it sound dramatic? I suppose it's my writing skill?

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Added on December 9, 2009, 12:22 pmAs I have said, I would like to remain anonymous. You have been asking too much.

Giving up private information per your request is considerd infringement of privacy, in my humble opinion.

I could not help if you single me out in this forum. As you might aware some people can't even put on their sexuality well. Guy becomes girl and vice-versa.

For those who have been following my posts, replies and threads, if you ever stumbled upon any loop hole, please tell the others, and I will be happy for you save my time. thanks!

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 9 2009, 12:31 PM

Of course NZ! Unless you twist the fact. I'm using a shared NZ broadband in my research center.

I'm waiting for your verification!

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 9 2009, 04:12 PM

winkybear, it would appear some elite/senior member want to infringe my privacy.

I completely agree.

In fact, I received many PMs, though I seldom reply PM due to overwhelming posts in this thread.

There are many who follow closely this thread. However, there are some who gave nonsense comments. For instance, in response to santaclaus's reply:

<<born in a rich family whr dad's face is like a golden statue .... a project earning 300k in 6 month is consider b*llsh*t .... but get a camry nia .... a bit not logic>>

Winner: Don't you know there is company's policy? I said it's company car!

<<said skype with gf , but later said "winne" stil doesnt gif answer .... something not logic>>

Winner: Didn't you read carefully? I said I don't want to pressure her for an answer. She said she is tired with her routine and sister's illness.

<<said met ex then fight with james ... then ex come to airport cry.gif ... so drama , not logic>>

Winner: I left my GF a suit jacket with flight ticket and some secret!

<<main point , phd holder , damn bz , onli can spend 5mins with gf , BUT can open this thread , follow n read all post , realize how many pages its been n how many views it got >>>> farking tak logic la b>>

Winner: I said I have busy and free cycle in my work!

YOU NEVER READ PROPERLY AND BLAME ME A LIER!

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Added on December 9, 2009, 5:19 pmYou asked the private information and now you blame me for not being even half as smart as I am. I'm speechless.

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 9 2009, 05:19 PM

Of course I have been in LYT, but I was in the other forum, the real world issue. I was then BN supporter under username WizGuy, but people misunderstood and thought I was a BN cyber troop and being scolded endlessly! Desperate, I never go to real world issue anymore.

This is my first time here in CC under, and I'm comfortable using my real nickname, Winner.

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Added on December 9, 2009, 5:34 pmYou are good at twists and turns! You suggested real name, remember?

Go and find some decent proof yourself. I said a Kelab Golf DIRAJA cost about RM20,000, can you proof this? Thanks!

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Added on December 9, 2009, 5:36 pmNorth Island. that's the most I could tell.

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Where's your finding? Can't you tell? Or you don't want to tell the truth? I have been waiting for long, though there are some who are more anxious than me.

Dude, I fear nothing out of this. A handful of elite/senior member are making remarks that are uncalled for, and I do not want to disappoint those who have been helpful and serious to this day. I received many PMs and good advice here, and with hands over heart, I definitely never want to demotivate them.

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Don't you know real story is hard to be script? There are many who could follow, so if you can't, I just could not help.

8-9 years ago, when I was a teenager, I rarely thought about the price to love a girl. It was real blind love. Forget about match or not based on our family background.

After my PhD graduation, I confessed, I took her for grant. I thought she had been waiting for many years, so separating seemed impossible. That's why I was quite aggressive to change her in the past. I was aggressive at times after drinking as well.

She is not a liability/risk at all! I love her deep down. I just hope to gratify both my family and her. I presumed that dad and her would have countless spat in the future. And I would have hard times to pacify all sides. If I fail to convince my dad, even after marriage, she might be unhappy.

I guess it's better to solve the problem right now rather than putting it off.

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Added on December 10, 2009, 12:40 pmSorry that I would not reveal any location information in response to your inquiry that put my privacy at edge. Please respect my privacy as everyone in the forum has their own right to privacy. I see revealing my location won't help at all to authenticate this thread.

You could have thousands and one reasons to accuse me of being a liar.

I reiterate, if you are unhappy with this thread, which is your own personal issue, please ask the moderator about my IP location. I have been most considerate to support the moderator to tell the truth. From now on, all replies related to private information would be ignored.

Thanks for being understanding for me, and Winne.

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Added on December 10, 2009, 12:49 pmYou owed everyone in this forum an explanation! My IP address! What was your finding? It's going to be 24 hours soon since your pledge to authenticate my IP.

Don't twist and turn our attention to James. I'm in the least bit interested to know about James. You better give a good response as I have nothing to hide!

Just tell everyone, is the IP address an NZ one! Unless you twist the fact, it's NZ!

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 10 2009, 12:52 PM

Sorry everyone for tardy reply lately.

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Added on December 11, 2009, 7:48 pmBecause the stranger punched me! If not because of Winne, he might have turned me into vegie. He is more than an ahole!

I have forgotten about the incident now, otherwise I will show many true colour.... legal action! Well, I'll never do it coz it will hurt Winne most.

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Added on December 11, 2009, 7:55 pmPut it this way, I'll marry her based on her decision.
Parent wise, there is only one way to please dad, the results! He wanted to see my results, anything else seems to be so trivial. If I could deliver, I guess he wouldn't constraint much, but this is just my guess. Having said that my success should be largely credited towards her, then dad will know she's a good daugther in law. Sigh... my burden is getting heavier!

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Added on December 11, 2009, 8:15 pmLife's complicated. What you have read in this thread are just tip of the ice berg.

Pressure was mounting from all sides:
1. To give Winne a happy life;
2. To convince my rigid Dad that Winne is a good DIL. And, Dad is getting old and sick, so if we could not see eye to eye, it might deteriorate his health condition, something that I never want to provoke;
3. To deliver extraordinary results expected by Dad who always proud of getting business on the run from scratch!

I'm more like a living dead to fulfill others, and sadly the pressure was the only thing that has kept me driven to this day.

Some blame me for many reasons because you never see this in a holistic manner. I'm trying my best to make things work, while keeping everyone happy.

Yes, some of you said, if you love her, go and get her, don't bother your Dad. It will never work if you see this dilemma from the aforementioned three perspectives. To me, I never regard my happiness important. I just hope everyone happy, as simple as that. If Winne feels she could be happier with me, I would be grateful for I love her very much.

Now, I'm a loser who has yet to achieve anything. Fingers crossed, I'll pull through.

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Added on December 11, 2009, 8:23 pmIt was just my perfunctory attempt to help you all to believe in me so as not to disappoint those who have helped me a lot. Sorry, if you feel I'm here to claim my own credibility, I'm in the least bit interested to do so. I don't need credibility, I just hope the good posters could continue to help others in CC.

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Added on December 11, 2009, 8:30 pmWinner and Winne Song:

無求甚麼　無尋甚麼　突破天地　但求夜深

奔波以後　能望見你　你可否知道麼

平凡亦可　平淡亦可　自有天地　但求日出

清早到後　能望見你　那已經很好過

當身邊的一切如風　是你讓我找到根蒂

不願離開　只願留低　情是永不枯萎

而每過一天　每一天　這醉者

便愛你多些　再多些　至滿瀉

我發覺我最愛與你編寫　以後明天的深夜

而每過一天　每一天　這醉者 (這情深者)

便愛你多些　再多些　至滿瀉 (然後再多一些)

我最愛你與我這生一起　哪懼明天風高路斜

名是甚麼　財是甚麼　是好滋味　但如在生

朝朝每夜　能望見你　那更加的好過

Winne, I'm sorry for I have hurt you deeply.
I'm an ordinary man trapped in a wealthy family with stringent rule.

How I wish we could understand each other more than anyone else.
How I wish I could come from an ordinary family to be with you unconditionally.
How I wish I could turn back time to re-kindle the simple love once we had.
Finally, how I wish you could read this thread.

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 11 2009, 08:44 PM

Cantonese is in traditional Chinese like 滿瀉.

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Added on December 11, 2009, 8:54 pmBaseless accusation is unscrupulous. Your many "IF" statements tell you are uncertain about me. You might want to ask mod about my IP, or you might want to get a mod account if you are so keen to know about my location.

It is 1:55am here in NZ. I'm drinking alone, so don't ask why I still awake at this time.


This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 11 2009, 08:54 PM

OK. My fault
I'll swallow this bitter pill

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Added on December 12, 2009, 5:46 amCantonese is normally written in traditional Chinese. It's my mother tongue. Back then at early 20s, I used to read HK paparazzi, and China Press at times. Not difficult wat?

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Added on December 12, 2009, 5:48 amIt has become my mantra now: Winner and Winne are our nicknames, not registered names! Just because you never follow this thread properly, don't put your blame on me!

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Added on December 12, 2009, 6:02 amAs I have said, you have thousand and one reason to brush my points aside. You have no guts to accept the fact that it's real.

Again, I'm not in the least bit interested to substantiate my story. Go and figure out the odds yourself. For instance, I said a Kelab Gold Diraja membership costs about RM20,000. I said I took train (transpennine) from Manchester to Leeds because a metro like Leeds does not have a proper international airport. All these you could proof yourself, and you don't have to stoop so low to preach your very own mantra "It's a fake!" that is uncalled for everywhere!

OK, if you really happened to be here in NZ, which is questionable for you have never substantiate your claim as well, you know we in NZ rarely use cash on daily transaction including those that involve petty cash. We use EFTPOS. You pay anything in shop using EFTPOS including a one dollar stuff. I never take public transportation, so don't ask about bus ticket. For more than one year, I have been "Penniless", all i use is a simple EFTPOS card. ONLY SOMEONE WHO HAVE BEEN IN NZ for long could tell you this, dude.

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 12 2009, 06:25 AM

I doubt everyone in this forum would be deceived into thinking that you are such a trustworthy person. You definitely not, my dear junior member! You should have laid off long ago. Don't you know Malaysian speaks Manglish during casual talk, and English during meeting and work? You are insulting Malaysian at large!

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 12 2009, 09:55 AM

Because some said I'm liar just because of my English proficiency. I have no clue how people could reach this conclusion.

As an engineer, I work around with maths and designs, not language!

Speaking of language, Chinese is becoming the "First" language in most renowned engineering research lab. As an example, 5 out of 7 PhD students at an engineering lab in Cambridge University are Chinese:

Click: People at Cambridge
Note: I'm not one of them!

Same goes to my laboratory while I was doing my PhD. What the fuss?

Just because you are in UK or NZ does not mean you have a good command of English! I hear more Chinese than English in lab. Malaysian, Singaporean, Taiwanese, Chinese, people from Hong Kong... all speak mandarin or cantonese, and we did have fun playing mahjong during weekend!

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Added on December 13, 2009, 2:04 pmFrankly, I'm more impatient than you are. I suppose I'll only express my concern with her during Chirstmas and New Year.

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 13 2009, 02:04 PM

I'm not geek lah... I'm not smart enough... definitely not Cambridge material.

My GF is stressful lately with work and her sister illness, so I never ask her about our relationship. We have Skype everyday for 15 minutes, embarassingly, it's much longer than ever before. Good progress eh?

To be specific, I count every single word, and mystically it ends exactly in 15 minutes! That's more accurate than an alarm clock!

P/S: Sarcasm is a norm in NZ. But somehow, Malaysian could get ireful out of it. No offence, just in case some people do not understand the culture.

Actually, I never sweet talk. I'm reluctant to do so, don't ask why, I don't know either. Probably I have lost interest in sweet talking at 28? We chat about our routine and recent happenings. So, it takes longer than before.

This post has been edited by theWinner: Dec 13 2009, 05:46 PM

No lah! Just in case some people could not catch and thought otherwise, though I'm certain you understood.