would u consider of consuming cloned meat?

are we lack of food nw?

if you look at those people who died of hunger. i can say yes. and based on our carbon footprint, we are consuming more than what we are creating. the cloned meat is one of the new technology to cater the food supplies and if im not mistaken, currently its one of the "thing" in the states.

how do you know you are not consuming something cloned?

anyway, i have no problem eating cloned meat as long as it is biologically similar to "uncloned" meat.

I once had a dream as a kid, that one day, scientist will be able to synthesize fish meat that has no bones.

The meat would be 100% identical to real fish, only without them nasty bones

hahaha...i tot of tat too...hate to eat fish with lots of bone even until now >_<

the bones must be there otherwise the taste will be gone.


Same goes for chicken without the bones.

Thank god I'm a vegetarian.
wakakaka

I don't have to eat cloned food.

yes because vegetables are not genetically engineered.

Is this sarcasm??? Not genetically engineered?? You nvr surfing other website except this? nvr read paper? nvr watch tv?
Plus all those pesticide.......

no. not while i have option to be as a vegetarian.

LOL at vegetarians in this thread.

BTW, how do u make a cloned cell grow into meat?

You fail la you.

You can LOL as much as you want

haiya..so happening meh? hehe..no disrespect for the vegan..nowadays even got tofu that taste like chickem d..

Mmm..tastes almost like the real thing!

that's just like eating lies.

better than kill

how do u define killing? killing plants also killing what

through this nanotech of cloning, i say fuse strawberries with cow's mammary glands. instant strawberry milk

if i go for vegetarian, its not about the killing moral thingy.

its more about healthy food.

human is omnivore, afterall.

YES.... world wide... how many millions of people died of hunger...

you should know how lucky u are

But yet we waste food.

just to show how rich we are? this happens when people are too indulge in "delicacy"

food that taste less are eatless....

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precisely. if we are omnivores we should be eating meat and veggies.

besides, many people become vegetarian without realising that they're actually malnourished

That depends of you were a meat eater previously and then u suddenly become vegetarian then its bad. u have to cut down slowly, then your body actually balances proper nutrition's.

didnt you see it? if you changed your diet, you are creating imbalance foodchain...

the herbivours would have to have food fight with you... and pest and lower food chain would multiply ever increasingly

I don't see how monks of age 100+ are malnourished. Vegetables/nuts are a good source of protein. Ironically its overnutrition that kills us these days rather than malnutrition

ur body doesnt do the balancing, u need to do the balancing itself. vegetarianism is troublesome as u need to go to great lengths to cover the gap left by omitting meat in your diet.

LOL do u even know how many types of protein are needed in our daily diet? do u know what combination of nuts and legumes to take to fulfill these requirements?

like i said, most people just want to go vegetarian and do not take into consideration the study needed to understand the types of food that is essential for vegetarians to maintain a balanced diet.

and when it comes to that, y go thru all the trouble when there's meat for u?

to steer the topic back on course:

the future is NOW (or at least very very soon)

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meat got many diff taste..
fish alone have many types like patin... all have diff taste, can it be differentiate on the cloned meat?

clone some human for organ transplant too
I do wish they can use it to clone organ...
Becoz many victim being kidnapped in some developing country,simply becoz their organ r very valuable in blackmarket...

This post has been edited by nujo87: Dec 9 2009, 12:11 PM

as long as its significantly cheaper (than slaughtered animal), fills the stomach,
vat-grown meat will take off.

probably won't pass off as kfc drumstick, but expect this in your sausage and burger patties when it passes FDA

moot, cloned human will probably have rights too, assuming they're fully functional/conscious, like identical twin maybe
it'll also probably be cheaper, faster(less documentation) to get through black market,
or through cell-stripping and scaffolding

on the other hand, cloned human meat for consumption...

just clone the organ needed for transplant.
no need clone the entire human.

is cloned meat equals to Genetically modified meat?

if it is genetically modified in a way that provide the essential nutrients. i don't see any harm of consuming it .

While I'm all for GM food and cloning, I suppose part of the main concern is to show that there are no side effects of consuming it.

But then again there will always be a group of people claiming such technology is an act of 'playing God'

well..that's why we have brain..to think..we can do it..but not overdo it at the same time..

if at all possible, i believe cloning for food isnt needed as of now in the global food situation. not as much as GM anyway. it's somewhat...redundant to clone for food...

IMHO "Playing God" is not really tat bad,if compare to those massive destructive weapon development.
At least i c many potential benefit in this
am i too open minded?

A human dentition suggest otherwise... We have 2 sets of dentition in a lifetime and both of the dentition suggest that we are purely herbivours... Even omnivores in the animal kingdom have a bigger canine, smaller set of molars and a bigger temporalis muscle (muscle you use to eat) than we do, if you study comparative anatomy, we are born to be vegans... Food for thought

Don't get me wrong, I love my meat...

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Added on December 19, 2009, 1:18 amWell, for one, I don't mind eating Dolly, the cloned sheep... If you really consider that it's just made up of protein same that has the same genetic content as the clonee, it really has no side effect on consuming them..

By the way, I generally do believe that we DO indeed produce enough food for the world... (Not too sure what carbon footprint has to do with the food production) But we have a huge unequal distribution of food and wealth in the world...

This post has been edited by hunter1012: Dec 28 2009, 10:16 PM

i believe you have confused the term Net Protein Utilisation with Essential Amino Acids. they are 2 completely different matters. Meat Sources generally provide a complete protein source which includes all amino acids (with different ratios). your figures correspond more to the NPU figures.

and speaking on the issue of egg albeit being a good source of complete protein with good NPU, not all vegetarians consume eggs. also, with the high fat content of egg, how many would a person need to consume to fulfill his/her daily protein intake? it wont be wise to disregard the fat content will it?

altho the NPU values for beef and chicken may be lower than egg, the quantity of protein which they provide with each serve make up for it. with the ratio of essential amino acids differing with different meats, it is still wise to consume different meats.

this as compared to a vegetarian diet where you have to balance a few types of nuts and legumes just to maintain good amino acid intake. this is not mentioning other nutrients that come with meat that will need to be compensated for, with just one example of iron.

it is known that the body absorbs heme iron better than non-heme iron. which means that you would have to take way more iron in a vegetarian diet just to fulfill the iron requirements.

cloning is not so bad....it's like those test tube baby only....we just make sure the dna in the egg is the same with the dna from the host we wanted to clone. but trying to clone more complex organism like human and animal often result in unexplainable organ failure or other unexpected early decline...same case with dolly the sheep. when u want to make a offspring(baby) u need sperm and ovum each carry half of the genetic material needed to make a full set. so cloning is juz a method of putting a complete set of dna into the egg.

vegan beware cos the real dilema is the GM product or genetic modified product. it's everywhere and quite common. plant like tomato, soy bean and corn have proven quite successful in being genetically altered. they can make tomato plant that is resistance to certain powerful pesticide so that they can spray a lot of it and don't concern that the plant will die from it. The pesticide example is only 1 of the thing u can do with GM other include faster growth and better product etc. even like yakult(vitagen like) drink uses a special breed of lactobacillus which is also GMed.

GM product causes panic cos a lot of ppl worried that altering the genetic material of the organism may result in some unexpected dangerous result. maybe the new organism can cause cancer or may lead to an outbreak that turn ppl into zombie haha...mostly now scientist concern bout is those pesticide resistant gene get absorb into weed or other plant or into pest that we're trying to kill(imagine mosquito imune to shelltock)

clone also same

This post has been edited by -Chee|Wei-: Jan 4 2010, 03:11 PM

in other word

clone = copy
genetic modified(GM) product=we make a new organsm(not found in nature)

so chee wei....it's not the same

Lol there are more vege and fruits that are genetically engineered compared to meat....

hehehe...did u guys know the tomato we ate today wasnt look like that few years back?it took some modification and selection to get the best one

there's a difference between GM and cloning

of course it is..

and this is a cloning thread so dont bring GM into this

refering to the 1st post i would say that clone meat and natural meat totally don't have difference at all(it's like would u consume a cow meat if it's a twin cow aka clone) and ppl will not clone animal to increase or solve food problem. the mentioning of gm is to clarify the difference between cloning and gm.

we do not want to spend extra few thousand dollar to get a cow that look like it's parent right? meat from cow A and cow B is the same to us as long as it's the same breed and quality. currently cloning of human is still ban and research is focus more toward stem cell research with hope of getting organ replacement or tissue repair but it's still in quite elementary stage.

If i'm a scientist, i would use GM technology to produce the best cow, then use cloning technology to multiply the best cow to solve food shortage problem

question: is cloning the cows cheaper or is letting the cows mate by themselves cheaper?

hararu pokku, i say!

xD

Ok seriously now... not really. It's *quite* impossible to halal-ize a piece of dead carcass. Cloned or otherwise.

Islam-wise, definitely not.

Even if I'm not a Muslim, I wouldn't either. It's gonna be more expensive than killing a cow to eat meat grown in labs.

This post has been edited by teh tarik satu: Jan 15 2010, 11:29 AM

I think i won't eat cloned meat, unless it is stable genetically and not goddamn try to mutate every 5 generations. i scared i mutate along...
Anyway the cost of cloning meat is very very expensive with today's technology.

cloned meat tastes not bad ! Hmmmm

you eaten clone meat before?

anyway if they can develop cloned meat with the some texture and flavour of the real time, i am all for it. we can have meat with very little produce in a sterile environment, so the end product is clean and healthy to eat. best of all it remove the problem of cattle that use huge amount of energy to feed and they product large number of green house gas. and finally PETA can shut up and stop their ridiculous PR stunt.