Hi folks,

Not really a full blown mod or anything. I just got myself a TJ07 from ModernoPC, and I have been thinking to spray the internal to flat black. After that, I will need to put all the hardware in including the water cooling parts Kindly be informed that this work is done in ModernoPC's shop. Moderno was kind enough to let me borrow the tools and space I need to complete the assembly (yes, Moderno, I will return the favor shortly ).

Okay, here is my hardware list:


CPU
Intel C2D E7400

Motherboard
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R

Graphics card
Gainward 4850 512MB Golden Sample

RAM
G-Skill DDR2-1066 2x2GB

Power Supply
Silverstone ST50F

Storage
WD 640GB Green

Sound card
Onboard! (my sound card crapped on me)

Casing
Silverstone TJ07

Water Cooling
Swiftech Apogee XT CPU water block
Swiftech MCW60-R V2 GPU water block
Swiftech MCP-655
Swiftech MCR-320
EK 250 reservoir
Bitspower Compression fittings 1/2" 3/4"
Tygon R3603 1/2" 3/4" tubings

I know my hardware is... outdated , but I am spending my PC budget for this year on this WC project.

I will take some pictures and post my sketch of the WC planning Right now, its more like a teaser

Meanwhile, any recommendations and/or feedback are welcomed Credits will be mentioned on this first post.

Credits
ModernoPC - for the continued support and patience
Clawhammer - for getting me the water cooling parts

Updates
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30187979
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30205481
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30205488
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30590543
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30649866
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30667498
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30683107
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30748803
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30859970

Finished work - with UV CCFLs
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=31136560
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=31136583

This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Jan 10 2010, 06:49 PM

be carefull with while modding the TJ07.. RM1000 of alu =(

wah, WC spec so high end

but using E7400 >.<? MCR 220 should be enough if ur cooling the cpu only, save space.. could always add another 120 rad for the GC if single setup..

You are right, MCR220 is enough, but its okay to still use a triple

Core i9 next year maybe?

I missed something. I did order a GPU block I will edit the first post.

woah....gudluck2...wonder why theres so little ninja mod...always CM or silverstone in here...

I'm looking for guide spray at interior because i want to do same at my casing.

Bro, can we do together?

This post has been edited by ikan_semilang: Nov 25 2009, 11:03 PM

hahahaha...ikan semilang...i tought u started the interior panting guide?juz follow it lol...

I need gang. LOL!

ahahaha..what for lol?

Can, but you will have to get down to ModernoPC. Sanding will take one whole day (depending on how big is your case)

Spraying a TJ07 is easier considering that you can take everything apart

What case do you have?

woah....ur from modernopc is it?y u ask him to take to moderno?

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 14 2017, 08:36 PM

this should be a good step to wc. hahahaha.. we have the same wc parts only i'm lacking of XT cpu wb... if i order 1 month after that surely i can play with XT already

hahahahahhahaha

nvm.. GTZ also fine.. waiting for u to complete the projects.. TJ07 is awesome wc casing BTW. Grab some Murdermod sleeve and do your own million dollar pc setup... good luck bro

why didnt buy full GTX 285 block xD.. the mcw-60 looks ugly unless u buy the cover (black thingy than covers the PCB) and v-ramsinks >.<

CM690...thinking to pianting inside black and panel with yellow.

Thanks, but I might not do the sleeving. I sleeved my PSU before, way back in 2003. It was a painful experience for me. 1 year later, the PSU blew and I had to throw away my hard work. So, no, no more sleeving for me

Full block GTX285? I am using AMD 4850 mate

Reason why I decided to go with MCW-60 is for future proofing. If I get an FC block, I will have to get another one when I upgrade my GPU. I dont have that much money every year wanna buy GPU water block

Not sure if thats gonna be easy since the case cant be taken apart.

No lah, I dont work there. Just that its easier to do modding work there. And its nice to be surrounded by expensive PC hardware, haha

Yea, I will get the pics. No worries

This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Nov 26 2009, 03:40 PM

anyway u can get the full MCW-60 mosfet / ram cover for your GC.. You can find 'em on swiftech official website. The color is black.

Finally I got the chance to upload some pictures


Here is the ripped apart TJ07. Mine is the one on the left. I have no idea who's the owner of the other TJ07.


The gut of the TJ07 all dumped into this box


Here is the sketch. Sorry its a little small. It was all that I can afford because of my busy schedule

This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Nov 26 2009, 11:06 PM

Some of the parts that will go in my rig


Gigabyte Coolant


Vantec jiggy-with-it-thingy front panel



This is the fan that will go to my triple rad.

Here is one part of the TJ07 that has been sanded. This was sanded using a 1000 grit sandpaper. 800 grit would give a rougher surface (better?).

That's all for now. I will be busy this weekend. There might be more updates next week as I will have the time to spray the internals. I will go more into details on the spraying steps.

not that fan lol.. CM r4 fans perform bad on rads ._.

Any suggestions?

get delta fan @ scythe fan for thicker radiator, any yate loon & scythe medium speed fan for the slim radiator like swiftech.

if you're a silent craze, get Noiseblocker fan... it's not cheap though...

This post has been edited by kInOzAwA: Nov 27 2009, 09:05 PM

just get a normal blingbling fan will do.. 50-60CFM @ 19 db(A).. and do it push + pull.. that should double the static pressure.. and it should be good too imo..
the CM R4 fans are quite loud actually if u put 4-6 of them in the same rad/case..

but cant fight with deltas yet xD.. i have 3x ultra kazes and omg, i think it sounds like a jet plane if i turn 100% on all of them "

This post has been edited by reiben05: Nov 27 2009, 10:55 PM

i'm using the push & pull fan.. hahaha the temp result is just about the same.. maybe my pull setup fan is not that great

U using yate loons edi xD... if u use crappier fan, better go for push pull..

I like the effects the fans give, something like this:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=29741697

oh.. those are CM r4's.. well u can try them if u like but base on my experience, those fans run pretty loud , especially if ur going to put 6-8 of them in a case =X

yeah i admit it.. CM fan running pretty loud, BTW that unit is better than transparent one, because can run only 1200rpm maximum...

but 1200rpm got better light.. i have the neon version of the 1200RPM, glows .. but only 43CFM @ 19dbA

y not get xigmatek fans if u want some bling bling like mine lol. not totally sure if its good or not but i can say i didnt like the cm 90cfm ones the led hardly glows and its loud.

ahahahaha...its up to u actually..whether u want the fans to be please to the eyes n ears...or either u want the performance...its very hard to find a fan that performs in both...

wish the XLF series came with blue fans also >.<", and i agree with u with the CM r4's

beli bling2 then letak push pull.. budak2 kat luar negara buat performance ok je..

hahaha mine mount to radiator is the performance one, the yate loon brothers, but then the push fan setup is in blue led (low CFM), which i can see from outside...

eh...how come u can mod ur case at moderno?u pay them is it?

Modding over there because of the tools and the perfect environment Besides, I can get the parts I need easily. I guess I will need to pay them for the rental of the tools and space once everything is done

Not sure if you have been there, but lately ModernoPC has been my hangout place, hahah

The stuffs will reach very soon Another beautiful rig coming up!

waaaa...like dat can i also come to mod my pc?hahahahah...perhaps repair my pc?

ive been there quite recently...didnt see anyone lol...juz the normal brother with another uncle tgh main game...

lolz i was at moderno the other day.. saw a black tj07 mobo tray .. wonder is it yours.

Yes, the lonely tray is mine I have put it back into the casing though.

Sorry for no update, I am having compatibility issue with the Apogee XT. Its blocked by a row of capacitors on the mobo.

If any of you is willing to trade your GTZ with my brand spanking new XT, I am more than willing to do it.

wow...trade w/o top up also can ah?

i will... come on...

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 14 2017, 08:55 PM

To those who have PMed me about the CPU block, hold on to your horses. I am going to attempt to bend the capacitors later today

can u take a picture? i want to see, if there anything i can help

y dont u try re solder it sideways? sure is safer than tryin to bent it

ahahahaa...dem...just when i think of having an xt for my loop...XD

until you finish your worklog...

Just a quick update on what I have done.

I have spray painted the case all black. It's quite scratch resistant, but there are still parts of the case where it is still scratchable, like the mirror finish mobo tray.

Steps taken:
1. Sand the surfaces with 1000 grit sand paper.
2. Spray with undercoat. I tried using both type of undercoat: gray and dark chocolate (anti-rust). I suggest you use the gray one. Its easier to apply. As usual, do a few thin layers for best result. 10 minutes interval is best between application.
3. Spray with flat black. Same technique, few thin layers with 10 minutes interval between each application.

A few ideas sprang up when looking at the case, I will let you guys know.

ahahahaha...very lazy la bro...especially now i dunno how to get the flames to look real...thinking of sending it for airbrush...hahahahaha...but dunno where lol...

it's not cheap to send airbrush bro.. lol... i got friend working as airbrusher, but the charges is not cheap...

Good news peeps! Apparently there is clearance for the capacitors, but less than 1mm. Managed to slip through a piece of paper so there's definitely clearance for them

Pictars coming soon!

owh...how much for entire case?

hahahaha...>1mm clearance...phew...goodluck bro...

buy my case after powder coat.. 3000 XD

dunwan...better buy stacker 830...XD

Well done, I'm glad it finally worked Looking forward for some beautiful pictures

I am really sorry if anyone here is expecting my worklog to progress any faster. My full time work; as I have said over and over again every time I need to apologize for my lack of time to do anything else; has taken the best of me.

Here are some pictars!

This is actually a Gainward HD4850 Golden Sample. Shiny core, after cleaned with Arctic Cleaner. I did fit it with MCW60R complete with compression fittings, but forgot to take a pic.


Apogee XT! With compression fittings Just so you know, I am using 775 back plate from my old TRUE120. So yeah, they are compatible with each other. And one more thing, I switched the inlet port to allow use of the compression on one side. It is possible to not switch the inlet port if you use 2 45degrees rotaries (both inlet and outlet port).


The row of capacitors I have been telling you guys. Ridiculous clearance I tell you!


I reached ModernoPC around 7.30pm, I only have enough time to fit the mobo. Notice the flat black mobo tray! Clawhammer, I will sell you the case for RM2000 This seems to be a new version of TJ07, its a little different then the older version.


This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Dec 17 2009, 10:58 PM

That's a very shiny Gainward there The XT clearance on the board is excellent without problems and sure, RM2000 for case plus all the water cooling stuffs? Thanks Nik!

RM2k including watercooling parts??? Cannot la bro, die la like this. I spray painted that case alone; Zam was busy the whole day assembling rigs, Adiel was away for the whole day. Can seriously die. It was magical I finished everything in one day. After everything was done, I couldn't even pop a can of Coke!

Bro, u missed out the all time champion, the San Aces...

very nice work, but you forgot to take the picture of the gc with MCW60-R... lol... anyway what's your ram heatsink used for the gainward?

There were no ram sinks! I might proceed with no ram sinks, do some furmark test when everything is up and see how it goes. If things go bad, I only need to add a fan to blow the rams

Progress updates!

Fan tests


Leak test Power supply is not installed yet, piggy backing on a spare power supply.


Moderno posted some pictures here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30665811

This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Dec 18 2009, 09:22 PM

nice setup there... anyway your tubing size is 7/16 -5/8 right?

He's using Tygon 1/2" 3/4"

i wonder how he can using the compression fittings size 1/2" without one rotary fitted on the MCW-60R

My MCW-60R is fitted with one 90degree rotary. I am using a barb for the inlet port.

r u going gpu >>rad>>res>>pump?? just wonderin cause i c lots of ppl putting pump at bottom part for tj-07.

You are partially correct

Pump >> CPU >> GPU >> Rad >> Res. I wanted to put my pump at the bottom, but too many issues. Had to revert back to original plan.

you need to mod bottom part isn't it?

No lah. Routing the cable from the bottom straight to the CPU is a problem. One more problem is from reservoir to the pump.

Another headache is about where to mount the hdd. Finally figured out this one spot! Thanks to En Zamree of ModernoPC for the suggestion



Kinda cool if it was a Velociraptor! But noooo, its just a 640GB WD.

This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Dec 19 2009, 08:15 PM

woah...the way u mount the hdd is soo cooolll

Wow, great idea to mount the HDD Maybe get an SSD so that you can slot it at the side?

Do you guys notice that the HDD... only one side is screwed

lol...how to notice...u only show 1 side..

i second that...

anyway, this should be a good idea, can mount another radiator in front of the case with push/pull setup..

would be sweet, can u actually fit 2 radiator on the bottom? ill definitely switch to tj-07 if its possible since im thinkin dual loop....

by modding it, surely you can fit 2 radiator at the bottom side... i also thinking like that, maybe will get the 2nd pump + another reservoir. one cpu/nb/sb/mosfet cooling sub-loop and one gpu cooling sub-loop

2 radiators at the bottom? Both triple rad? Its gonna be tight. You have to take into consideration about PSU and also tubes

If you really need another radiator, its possible to mount a dual rad at the top. Remove the 12cm fans, mod the grill a bit, and you can mount a dual rad at the top I have seen it been done before.

u can only fit slim rad at top or mod into invert atx otherwise it will block some of the mobo according to most of the guys at xtremesystem forum...

i saw a person fit a quad and dual rad at the bottom thats y im asking keke
seems like he didnt mod the casing though and for pump he was using the ek that mount directly under the res.

This post has been edited by kevink82: Dec 20 2009, 05:12 PM

maybe u can share a picture dude, everyone can see it

let me find it lol..

forgot his screen name lol but i did find another one triple and single with pump at bottom
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...=214589&page=17

nvm found him lol
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240616

This post has been edited by kevink82: Dec 20 2009, 10:12 PM

I will go dual loop next time. To have integrated res+pump is a huge boon to space saving.

EDIT:
Ahhhh... found what I need!

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekwaekx.html

This will have to come in during my next worklog though. My PC budget this year has finished

This post has been edited by tesla_rage: Dec 20 2009, 10:53 PM

I thought you'd prefer the Bitspower top mod instead? Of course it costs a bit more.

nice link kevin.. it's another murdermod case and it's all well arrangement of cable management, good rads, shiny compression and rota-rotaries fittings and integrated D5 pump modded with EK res on it,,,

The murdermod cases are really nice but I think if we have the tools, we can design and cut something similar (laser cutting required). Problem is, I don't even know where do we have good laser cutting at a good price

true2...i 2nd that...even airbrushing/painting cost a lot more compared to overseas...haih...

murdermod out of reach ; ; 990 usd for the whole thing.......

Be the first to own, I'm sure you can do it Kevin Other people I'm not sure but Mr. Kevin, anytime

Quick updates!

Managed to properly POST with everything on, so I am pretty sure I did not short circuit anything.

I jumped straight from 3.2GHz to 4.0Ghz.

Result is very encouraging. Idle temp is 35C, load temp while priming is at 57C. Superb! Previously when I was on TRUE120, the temp easily rose to 70++ when on load.

New problem: Chipset is running too hot!!!
Another problem: Mosfet is even hotter!!!!!

for the new problem, it's time to change the mentioned items to a better cooling solution, you can opt either to go wc or air cooling like Deepcool stuff and enzotech.

i'd say WC ur chipsets and mosfets.. EK brand looks good imo

Yes, I know. Been looking at them too. I need to fork out another 700-800 bucks to cool off the mosfets and also the NB Next year's project lah!

400 dah boleh dah .. maybe less.. depending what chipset u using..

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 14 2017, 09:18 PM