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hkhk
post Nov 26 2009, 09:55 PM

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lol.. Lasttime if no INTERNET then they can bullshit all they want. Now got internet, still wan to cheap ppl..
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post Nov 27 2009, 02:15 AM

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jimlim007: so now you learned that not everything can be copy and paste? Every setting have their reason.. Must look at the condition and change the parameters accordingly. smile.gif
If everything fail.. just go back to AUTO Mode n settle.. joking tongue.gif
Try n error is the process of learning smile.gif

- D60 is an entry level. 40D is mid range
- Always remember the rule, the shutter speed a man can hold without blur
"shutter speed = 1/ (focal length x crop factor)"
- slower shutter speed , the pic will be blur.. (this is assumed that the SSS is off)
- with higher ISO, wider aperture and slower shutter speed, u got more ambient light color.
- Depend, I like the photo to have a little bit warm if shoot in those hotel environment, not all will neutralize the white balance.
- To use local AF. Press the Fn button => AF area => Local, use the D pad to choose the AF Point (u didn't read the manual?)



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QUOTE(OSW @ Nov 27 2009, 01:38 AM)
Has anyone's sony's lens motor malfunction before?
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lens motor don hv.. But my kit lens gear jam before.. Send to Sony service centre.. the personnel say motor jam..
I say.. this lens where got motor.. #$^%#*@&#*

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post Nov 27 2009, 02:46 AM

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Now is no longer entry, mid, pro.. the manufacturer make it more than 3 level.

SONY SG also say A700 is pro.. but in fact it's a midrange.
http://www.sony.com.sg/microsite/dslr/inde...SLR_HP:masthead

7D is born to be the flagship for the APS-C camera, same as the the D300. Manufacturer say all the cam are pro.. so they can sell more?? haha
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post Nov 28 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(achew @ Nov 28 2009, 08:15 AM)
whats the market price for beercan in malaysia?
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u eyeing the beer can at CS?? few days ago, got a person selling at $180. Within same day kena sapu.

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post Nov 28 2009, 11:46 AM

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CS is the most popular forum for photographer at SG.. Those who are in SG/JB sure will surf them la.
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post Nov 28 2009, 05:19 PM

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I think the speed of Kingston 8GB 133x still OK on A700.
It's slow on A200, take a few sec to review n delete photos.

No idea about the A-DATA card lo
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post Nov 28 2009, 05:45 PM

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i lol at this:

http://www.whattheduck.net/strip/851

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at CS got at leeast 3 ppl selling BeerCan.. try another one la..

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post Nov 28 2009, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Wonka @ Nov 28 2009, 06:26 PM)
Which means my a200 is slow with this card then cause I noticed it is quite slow when processing. For example, I took a shutter speed of 10secs and it took at least 10secs to process. Is it my body doesnt support such card or the card is slow? -.-
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check whether your long exposure NR is on.
If that NR on, whenever u use a shutter speed slower than 1s, the NR kick in. Like u shoot shutter 2 s , it need another 2 s to get a baseline for NR.
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post Nov 28 2009, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(lencent @ Nov 28 2009, 07:08 PM)
my kingston elite pro x133 is damn slow. after i snapped a picture, i have to wait like 3-5 seconds for the preview even though it is a short exposure. thinking to upgrade to sandisk extreme III.
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Yours is 4GB or 8GB ??
I really cannot tahan the speed of 8GB Kingston 133x on the A200. However, when tried on A700.. still not too bad..
I got another 4GB 133x. havent open package.. don't know whether got same problem or not.
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post Nov 28 2009, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Wonka @ Nov 28 2009, 09:37 PM)
How to change ah? Mind to guide me?
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Press Menu > press left to 2nd page > Long exp. NR

Turn it off and try

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QUOTE(lencent @ Nov 28 2009, 09:48 PM)
is the 8gb version vmad.gif
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I doubt maybe it's the A200 not so compatible with 8GB card or it the card problem.

Hope to hear from somebody using Any other 8GB card on A200/A300/A350, or 4GB kingston 133x on A200/A300/A350. then we will know it's the card issue, or the A200 problem.

Althought I heard there is some issue of the card with the A200, I still goto buy the card during previous PC fair.. coz I saw quite some sifu using the card at an event at SG with their alpha.. now i kena. haha

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post Nov 28 2009, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Nov 28 2009, 10:52 PM)
since we are on NR query, wanna ask on and off will affect pic by alot??
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Why don't you try to shoot a pic with NR on and NR off? U will learn more when u try it yourself smile.gif

Quick Answer from a NOOB:
Apparently High ISO NR in our camera will make your picture softer.

While for the Long Exp NR, I think not much different on the pic sharpness,
Long Exp NR is actually a mathematics haha, it work by capturing another dark image (with shutter closed) at the the same shutter speed with ur exposure, and deduct it from the pic..

10sec A (info + noise) - 10sec B ( noise) = C (info)

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post Nov 29 2009, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 28 2009, 11:25 PM)
btw, when u use long exposure, u dont really use iso800 for it rite? usually u should just use iso100 or 200 to prevent it from grabbing noise. so u can just turn off the LE NR. it is totally no use since iso100-200 has low noise count anyway.
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For me.. i turn off both NR..
If u pixel peep carefully, hotpixel do happen on the A200-A350 series in a long shutter exposure. There will be some white pixel even thou ISO 100 is used.
No problem on A700, as the cam will do pixel mapping every month..
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post Nov 29 2009, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(gizmo_pony @ Nov 29 2009, 12:52 AM)
Q : I am using RAW+JPG mode. If I change the white balance settting let say to tungsten, what actually happen to both RAW photo and JPG photo ? Need clarification on this. Thanks =)
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Your camera will put a blue color cast on the photo. So your tungsten color environment will be corrected to white. This will be recorded in the JPG pic and the setting will also be recorded on the RAW file.

If u open the RAW file using SONY IDC, u will see a pic with the same color as your JPG file.
if u open the RAW file using some 3rd party software like Google PICASA , they actually dump all the in camera process setting on the photo and show you the raw image from your sensor. Thus the environment will still have a tungsten color cast. u still can correct the WB using the software without affecting your image.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 29 2009, 03:25 AM)
hkhk: All Alphas do the monthly pixel mapping thing.
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I am going to argue for this again.. A100 maybe have pixel mapping, but for sure A200/A300/A350 don have pixel mapping. Dont know about A230/A330/A380 or A500/A550. The hot pixel stay at the same location and never change. While for the A700. I do notice that the hot pixel being removed after some time.

So SONY actually remove some thing from A100 and make a cheaper model of A200.
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post Nov 29 2009, 11:37 AM

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Never happen as u never has hotpixel, or never has pixel mapping occured on your A350 ?

Not many ppl will always shoot very long exposure time, thus this might not be an issue for them.

I send my camera to SONY twice, first time when the kit lens jam, I ask them to remove my hot pixel, and yes.. the sensor is clean from hotpixel. After near to 1 year, before the warranty end, I send to SONY the 2nd time. I ask them to check on hotpixel again... The engineer told me that.. if not very critical, better don do it, as this might increase the noise when shooting long shutter.. I was like "huh, oh.. OKay..."
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post Nov 29 2009, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Nov 29 2009, 04:06 PM)
got la bro pixel mapping for a300...on ur camera,turn lv,go to menu and choose the spanar options...there u get the pixel mapping function....
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oh like tat. that mean Only A200 don have pixel mapping lo?


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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 29 2009, 06:44 PM)
hkhk: To be specific, you mean pixel mapping on the sensor? As far as I know every time the month changes, the camera scans the sensor for hot pixels and remaps them. This is different from the Pixel Mapping option in the menu of Live View Alphas, to scan the Live View sensor.

That said I have never encountered a problem with pixel mapping on the A100/A700/A900, and I have not used other Alphas for over a few months to see it. Hot pixels caused by long exposures are perfectly normal. I've posted the links before. There's black frame subtraction there which is meant for long exposures. If you have to make a few long exposures, take one black frame and use that on all the exposures.
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Ya.. hot pixel on the sensor, caused by long exposure.
True, it can be removed by the Long Exp NR. i send the camera for servicing when warranty almost end. Like other, I ask them to check on the AF, check on the hotpixel issue sekali, since sometime I still found some white pixel when i shoot with Long Exp NR ON.

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post Nov 29 2009, 09:51 PM

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congrats.
I use Maha Imedion 2100mAh.
other good candidates are Eneloop and SONY Cycle Energy.
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post Nov 29 2009, 11:13 PM

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i think the pixel mapping I mean and what you mean is different thing.
Mine is for the sensor. while your's should be for the LCD.. smile.gif
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post Nov 30 2009, 03:08 PM

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Hi albnok,

Actually it's not a very big issue for me with the hotpixel. I shot long shutter occasionally. And I can do the dark substraction manually using GIMP/photoshop or software with layer capability.

I did not goto SONY and ask them to fix it purposely.. those 2 times I send is becoz I need to service the jammed lens for the 1st time, and 2nd time is just before warranty end. I don like to be without my camera during weekend. smile.gif I think now no more white pixel with Long Exp NR on..

Oh.. i pointed this hotpixel issue coz somebody asking about NR. smile.gif
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post Nov 30 2009, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 30 2009, 06:08 PM)
hkhk: Glad to hear. You will know pixel mapping is happening when you turn on your camera on the 1st of December and find that it takes longer to start.
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Again I bet this doesn't happen for A200.. tongue.gif
Lasttime when i found there is hotpixel, i spend hours tried to modify the date several time, hoping for pixel mapping to happens but sadly it never happens. In the end I give up..

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