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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V34!, The Orange Legion

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post Dec 5 2009, 05:21 PM

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Soony: 30mm is sweet, like shooting ur date from ur sitting on a dinning table, just fine, with large apperture softening the background, w00t. tongue.gif but i think 1750 can easily do this, but lack of the bokeh though.

gizmo_pony: i rather pay rm400 less for Non-OS version. wink.gif i'm not sure, when using 200mm, i felt SSS are more stable compare to VR/IS at the same shutter speed(although it dont physically shows in OVF). so i would stick with SSS, summore the newer alpha model will have even better SSS
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post Dec 6 2009, 07:00 PM

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felt like selling off my whole sony collection and jump to ehem,...



medium format... i somehow got poison from photo taken by medium format, the clarity is unbeatable.
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post Dec 6 2009, 10:14 PM

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not forgetting M, i am tied to M, loved the designs, but H is better with Zeiss biggrin.gif (H is known know for building satellite cameras.)

if i sell of everything, still short of 10k, maybe use credit card, every month bout 1k payment... just for the 20mp basic medium... but with the crazy DoF, can easily crop anyhow and still get good bokeh like crop sensor. that is the benefits of medium format.

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post Dec 6 2009, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(signither @ Dec 6 2009, 10:40 PM)
i got Zeiss on my Nokia 5800, count or not??
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post Dec 6 2009, 11:28 PM

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Demitri: more picture on the first waist bag. please.
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post Dec 7 2009, 10:02 AM

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red eye reduction can be turn off. smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2009, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(enji @ Dec 7 2009, 05:36 PM)
Heheh...just got myself Sony alpha A500 last week. So excited  blush.gif
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post Dec 8 2009, 11:47 AM

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although A500 and A550 has the same body, they are very diff in spec.

i would say A500 are better Replacement for A300/A330(not an upgrade). while A550 are real Upgrade for A300/A330 users. this applies to A3xx users. those uses A700/850/900 wont be bother with A500/550 (except for the auto hdr function which is so kewl.)

so now is more of, to upgrade to A550 or A700 (and A500 is not in the option)


Added on December 8, 2009, 11:47 amand A500 is seriously good for entry level (for those who dislike A330 grip), it also has Vgrip upgrades brows.gif brows.gif

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post Dec 9 2009, 01:55 AM

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not forgeting, the chemical used, the longer they use, the darker it get, so will ur saturation becomes black, best is to go in early (8am) so when they process the first batch around 11am, ur photo goes into the fresh chemical for bright color.
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post Dec 10 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(ahmike89 @ Dec 9 2009, 11:32 PM)
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wow, very nice, sharp and vivid
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post Dec 10 2009, 05:53 AM

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QUOTE(destfull @ Dec 10 2009, 05:00 AM)
http://bit.ly/8fnHt6 - Yeay! A review of Sony a550 DSLR at last! Now, D90 or a550?
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the review were around for sometime already. and, u, with a 1680cz? u wanna look at other ship? even pro grab sony as 2nd system for the carlzeiss. hmm.gif
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Dec 10 2009, 09:00 PM)
bowling centre rear shoot [1870mm f5.6, 1/30 SS, ISO800, Manual mode, flash gun bounce 90 degree up]

bowling centre - front shoot [1870mm f5.6, 1/20 SS, ISO800, Manual mode, OFF flash]
well, why did u even shoot in M mode? for safe measurement, never use M unless u Know Why u Need M.

use A mode or P mode. ur shutter speed should be minimum of 1.60 to get a decent motion-less blur.

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post Dec 11 2009, 06:14 PM

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(mmm i dunno albnok with agree with me or not, he seem to disagree with me most of the time tongue.gif)
marauderz: understanding the new sensor. and the hype iso performance of the new sensor.

the A550 sensor is pretty well build, ignoring what-so-ever review there is out there, some are bias, some arent. but to the point, the sharpness and iso performance is also affected by lenses u use, (you will notice review hardly state what lenses they use when they do comparison) so, it's very difficult to justify the sharpness or iso or performance of the camera.

as for the first question on the iso, high iso works well with raw? answer is NOPE - not exactely. u see, especially the DP review, u notice the 500D raw - iso at 3200 are noisier then A550's raw. it proves that, the 500D has better (or heavier) noise reduction in the body when comparing jpeg, 500D seems finer then A550. but the good news is, A500 native (raw) sensor iso level are pretty LOW at iso3200 too (and to any other camera in the market now, except nikon, they going to use our sensor anyway later....) so, for 500D users, it's better for them to shoot jpeg rather then raw and the trouble to post process later.

and passing iso6400, 500D did pretty bad in their raw then A550. this proves A550 sensor are on par or better with (perhaps) canon's sensor.... so... for now, all sony's need is a good team of programmer to recode better coding for noise reduction.

so, shooting raw, infact , gives u space to process the noise, but the trouble to do it, (IMHO) is too troublesome. i rather just shoot jpeg, and learn to love the noise that affect the photo.

but then, i know one thing, when u buy the A550, buy it with the CZ1680!.... ur photo will goes into another level of clarity.


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QUOTE(albnok @ Dec 11 2009, 05:33 PM)
Not sharp?


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Added on December 11, 2009, 6:22 pmand, wanna ask opinion of ppl here.

A300, warranty till june next year, with 1870 kit lens, +8gb card. 8/10 condition. how much can let go? PM me ur opinion, i dunwan to turn this thread to talk bout price war.

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post Dec 12 2009, 01:47 AM

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wingster : Theoretically, YES, if u have the skill.... Practically, YES if u have the skill. but problem is, 90% of photographer dont even know how to FINE adjust the noise reduction. (if u cant reduce better then the build in, then u fall into the 90% group, i know i am in the 90%)

viruz019 : try shoot till 30k photoes first, by that time, i am pretty sure that u will know what u wanted.

for now, u have not know the limitation of the camera, (not as u listen to ppl talk bout limitation, more of knowing how can u shoot, and how not to, or cant) in fact, i find my A300 can do almost anything a photographer can ask for. understand that u dont have LIVEVIEW (i guess u are missing out a lot), but buy a flash and learn the new world of WL flash. upgrading to A300 is waste of money, might as well save it up, till u shoot 30k photoes (1 year later?) then grab the new A580... if there is A580...

i used to tell ppl, newer body mostly improve night shooting, but those nifty upgrade dont really benefit day time shooting, so is every camera... if u hate shoot night time cause of bad quality, shoot day time lorrrr... lol

MemorableStudios :i also learn that canon 24-70, 16-35, 70-200 F2.8 is more expensive then sony's carlzeiss. but funny thing i dont understand why ppl fuss bout sony not having enough lenses?



me: yea i agree with achew, not everyone shoots at night, 50mm F1.8 are very useful at day time, even certain occasion indoor (food shooting?) when there is enough indoor light. but then, flash is really good when at one point u get invited for ur cousin wedding reception. wink.gif
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post Dec 12 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(destfull @ Dec 12 2009, 04:31 PM)
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post Dec 13 2009, 06:11 PM

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jimlim007: hahah, sometime ppl reply to several post, it would be spanning really long. well sometimes there are ppl having personal chat with each other with publicly, smile.gif

as for the question u ask albnok (i am busybody) ur flash still too strong. sometimes ur flash can fire at 1/64 where ur manual setting cant reach but ur flash can (that what i was told long time ago, forgot by who, i think is albnok) if u wan to capture ambient light, use larger aperture, like F2.8, the light around will be absorbed or higher iso.

hokc77: wahhh very nice, i always wanted to shoot something like this...
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Dec 13 2009, 08:46 AM)
hi albnok .. thanks for your input .. oh .. when u saying about modelling lamp, i was reconsidering my decision to have 2 f58 with stand+umbrella .. i tried google to find the actually meaning/out of modelling light but still 50-50 in understanding .. does it mean, e.g a face portrait - half of it has enough/over exposure while another half less? is it? if so, why dont we use 2 flashes with 1 is more power while less for another? ..
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FYI, if u set ur F58 to modeling light test (yes u can set it), pressing the * on camera, will make ur F58 fire modeling light, u will still get that the 'modeling light" effect of the big strobe wink.gif but think properly, unless u have a home studio (nice room, good BG etc) then a home studio is a good choice, else, i rather grab portable flash and shoot outdoor wink.gif

it seem that only sony flash has modeling light tongue.gif F58 FTW.
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v1rtual: like what freddy said, not flash, but the overall exposure is a little on the bright side. lower it a little might gives a more relax feel.

freddy manson: your monitor is fine smile.gif
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post Dec 14 2009, 12:08 AM

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i really dont understand why ppl keep insisting that shooting raw only gives u more room to edit, when jpeg actually can be done... pretty well in fact.


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post Dec 14 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Dec 14 2009, 12:19 AM)
i shoot JPEG 95% of the time..
but i'd try raw and there's more option to edit.. esp the WB
it doesnt matter BTW if u got nice pics.. no need too much PP rite?
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pardon white balance?

1. study white balance and play with it Pre-Processing (meaning, set it before ur release ur shutter) it will helps u a lot so u dont have to work so much for PP.

2. white balance on jpeg with photoshop is DAMN easy. its not like it is Impossible with photoshop tongue.gif not to mention with exposure, dynamic range, saturation, mirco contrast, and many more. tongue.gif

learn photoshop too, it helps. but like u said, if u got perfect shot, PS is not necessary. rclxms.gif


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