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Mr_47
post Nov 20 2009, 11:44 AM

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ai is sux
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post Nov 20 2009, 11:26 PM

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RA3=noob AI...all C&C ai is noobshjt...
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post Nov 20 2009, 11:29 PM

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Of all of the C&C games you could pick, you pick the one that fouled up the entire series. Enjoy the flaming, buddy.
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post Nov 21 2009, 05:58 AM

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i think generals zero hour is the best c&c!
it is pretty much balance in my opinion to be played competitively.
I always played it with my friends at cc =D
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post Nov 21 2009, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 20 2009, 12:40 AM)
mana ada?

Zero Hour was the better one, C&C Generals was lacking in many areas.

ZH you get EMP general! (w00t, emp works well against stupid AI), then the aurora bombers. biggrin.gif
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Well, from my perspective, dividing major factions into sub factions will always raise the issue of balance, because it creates specialize units which is extreme version of some regular units, so when Faction A(have special unit bane of Faction B) VS Faction B(have special unit bane of other Faction rather), it will be a bad matchup as most will say, it will be a nightmare for the devs to patch the imbalance too(tho this can't apply to C&C Generals series as it had already been abandoned).
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post Feb 10 2010, 09:41 AM

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i love command & conquer series ^^ especially the old one, RA2 ^^
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(zerashk @ Nov 20 2009, 02:03 AM)
I think Zero Hour is fun but not that great at all - if you got the counter unit, your opposition is pretty much screwed, e.g.

Scenario 1, 1 humvee & 1 avenger vs 8 missile defender, winner = humvee avenger, why because avenger can deflect 8 incoming missiles without breaking a sweat, while humvee feast on the hapless missile defender, no need to run them over.
u should have some armor to protect them

Scenario 2, incoming horde of China Infantry and/or GLA what cha call that spawn rebel anywhere general point skill, being held off my 3 pathfinders.
So are dead, pathfinder are nice

Scenario 3, dozen of King Raptors inbound your base, fret' not, Quad Cannon, Gattling Tank and Avenger will drag all those down to earth in a half blink of an eye. Even Minigunner can shoot ‘em down with relative ease, and King Raptor need to manually aim target infantry otherwise each volley (6 to 8 missiles) will hit only 1 target.
Aurora should pass all of them, but maybe dead before coming back

Scenario 4, the USA F-117 is utterly useless except for flushing insurgents out from their tunnel, palace, and probably buildings. Complete retard IMO.
For me, the nighthawk only good to destroy, 2 Nighthawk = 1 Turret, no afraid of EMP and gattling

Scenario 5, laser turret can shoot nuke cannon as long as there's something else / unit to shoot in front of the nuke cannon, looks like a richochet. Nuke cannon is a disappointment if you look at it from Terran Siege Tank point of view. A row of laser turret can really hold the line really good.
Nuke Cannon Attack Range are longer than his line of sight, use attack ground

Scenario 6, there's no way you can stop incoming Auroras from destroying your super weapon, Stealth SCUD Storm may have better survivability due to its stealth buildings. IIRC 7 Auroras and/or 5 Alpha Auroras can take out super weapon facility.
If u too much depends on superweapon, that will be the results

Scenario 7, Overlord + ECM tank combo being overwhelmed by horde of RPG trooper, ECM have tendencies to zap vehicle within range so use Quad Cannons to either distract 'em or destroy it all together. ECM can still be damage with RPG troops and/or buggies in sufficient numbers, i.e. 10 or more focus fire.
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Scenario 8, humvee with TOW + 3 missile defender + pathfinder + humvee that heals can pretty much pawn every land unit with its kiting technique, i.e. go within shooting range, back away, stop, back away, rinse, repeat.
However ZH can be pretty micro intense, and from the replay I’ve seen GLA multiple attack can be very impressive, e.g. distract opponent then send in technical full of suicide bombers, target their tech building, e.g. palace, dual flanking tunnel with buggies and/or bus full of RPGs, etc.
Micro player always play better than macro

Miscellaneous . . .

My favorite unit = Alpha Aurora, the #1 glass cannon unit. Like to mass Quad Cannons. Will be very pissed when my airfield with 4 Auroras being take control by enemy. Like Air Force general the most albeit never really did master ‘em. One time was playing against China AI and their Black Lotus can take over building while running around – wth!? Demolition General SCUD Storm my favorite super weapon. Dragon tank has great potential for clearing bases, i.e. supply lines. EMP turret is so annoyingly effectively its almost retard a defense building. Demolition bike is unpredictably effective.

Infinite resource generator building, .e.g supply drop zone, internet something something and black market somewhat promote camping and long dragged out games, e.g. LASER GENERAL, camping, seal their base with laser turret, backup turret with Commanches, get Aurora and particle cannon, bomb opponent back to stone age, waltz into their base and take ‘em down. Etc.
I'd say there's better RTS games for LAN, W3 and SC being the obvious choice, DoW series & RA3 looks good but never got to try it out, etc. AoE too complicated for me simple mind.
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This what make the game interesting, such as RA3, they have all the counter for every type of unit, no such overpower unit. But I still think Avenger is IMBA.
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post Jul 31 2010, 03:15 PM

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update C&C GZ and it would e mobe imba

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post Jul 31 2010, 08:05 PM

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I watched some documentary that this game was rushed in relations to Iraq invasion.At that time, US was preparing to attack Iraq.
This makes me loath this game. vmad.gif

Taking advantage of war at other ppl country to boost game sales.

Ppl at US was imagining they're kicking Saddam butts when playing this.
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post Jul 31 2010, 09:25 PM

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i regret for uninstall this game
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post Aug 1 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 31 2010, 08:05 PM)
I watched some documentary that this game was rushed in relations to Iraq invasion.At that time, US was preparing to attack Iraq.
This makes me loath this game. vmad.gif

Taking advantage of war at other ppl country to boost game sales.

Ppl at US was imagining they're kicking Saddam butts when playing this.
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marketing strategy i suppose...
but generals got released at the same time as War3 and War3 totally dominated the whole strategy game scene at that time
so it doesnt make much difference afterall
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post Aug 2 2010, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(general_odin @ Aug 1 2010, 04:16 PM)
marketing strategy i suppose...
but generals got released at the same time as War3 and War3 totally dominated the whole strategy game scene at that time
so it doesnt make much difference afterall
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I dont think at the same time la
Generals released earlier I think.
The documentary I watched is how America is promoting war to their ppl.
That time not yet attack Iraq.
There's poll whether or not to attack Iraq, and they promote war so intense until can change poll from 90% not agree to 80% agree in months only.


Sry if this off topic...lol

the game I played a bit only, cos my brother still bought even though I boycott doh.gif
I like RA2 better

all in all, this game is so rushed, I dont think its that good.It supposed to have fmv, but the production was cut halfway.
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How to counter a demolition general which spams suicide biker?
they come so fast hit quite hard... and in masses
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post Aug 21 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 31 2010, 08:05 PM)
I watched some documentary that this game was rushed in relations to Iraq invasion.At that time, US was preparing to attack Iraq.
This makes me loath this game. vmad.gif

Taking advantage of war at other ppl country to boost game sales.

Ppl at US was imagining they're kicking Saddam butts when playing this.
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yup, any problem with that?? icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(win7 @ Aug 21 2013, 11:59 PM)
yup, any problem with that?? icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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Why are you reviving a thread from 2011? doh.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 22 2013, 12:19 AM)
Why are you reviving a thread from 2011? doh.gif
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i played online in GameRangers
still awesome game
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post Nov 27 2013, 10:22 AM

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last night playing back C&C ZH, long time no play it
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post Nov 27 2013, 04:57 PM

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still where the fak is the new cnc generals... frostbite my azz
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post Nov 28 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Nov 27 2013, 04:57 PM)
still where the fak is the new cnc generals... frostbite my azz
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canceled
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post Dec 26 2013, 03:47 PM

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CC G / CC G Zero Hour... playing on LAN...
both host or client can use cheatengine...solving the supply problem.



 

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