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post Nov 19 2009, 04:38 PM, updated 17y ago

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I am one of the fan/player of this game. Who else? lets share tactics and knowledge... smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2009, 04:46 PM

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this 5 years++ games lol..btw here my comment...cannot beat RE2 loh but better then RE3 just... moderate
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post Nov 19 2009, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(mrcg @ Nov 19 2009, 04:46 PM)
this 5 years++ games lol..btw here my comment...cannot beat RE2 loh but better then RE3 just... moderate
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Since when Resident Evil 2 and 3 is an rts game
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post Nov 19 2009, 04:54 PM

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post Nov 19 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Nov 19 2009, 04:53 PM)
Since when Resident Evil 2 and 3 is an rts game
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pretty sure he means RA2 and RA3.

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post Nov 19 2009, 05:48 PM

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RA3 have so much potiential,but EA just screw it up.

Oh well.

Another good game got wasted right in front of me.
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post Nov 19 2009, 05:58 PM

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C&C is a good series but i prefer Age of Empires saga more. Age of Empire 3 definitely one of the best RTS in 21st century.
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post Nov 19 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Nov 19 2009, 05:48 PM)
RA3 have so much potiential,but EA just screw it up.

Oh well.

Another good game got wasted right in front of me.
RA3 ok mah. smile.gif you too high expectations la.

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post Nov 19 2009, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 19 2009, 06:22 PM)
RA3 ok mah. smile.gif you too high expectations la.
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I mean RA3's potiential in terms of competitive gaming.

It's almost perfect.

It's good enough for casual play.
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post Nov 19 2009, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Nov 19 2009, 09:08 PM)
I mean RA3's potiential in terms of competitive gaming.

It's almost perfect.

It's good enough for casual play.
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in terms of competitive gaming ya, RA3 just couldnt catch up with WC3 or SC.
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post Nov 19 2009, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(SkYY @ Nov 19 2009, 09:16 PM)
in terms of competitive gaming ya, RA3 just couldnt catch up with WC3 or SC.
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No doubt,but RA3 have some very interesting stuff that WC3 and SC dont have.

It has it's potential.
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post Nov 19 2009, 10:14 PM

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i only have the original one, not the expansion. to me it's just moderate, not too good or bad
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post Nov 19 2009, 10:14 PM

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C&C Generals? it was good before Zero Hour came, did manage to win when local WCG hosted 2v2 for C&C Generals(the PC used that time causes loads of crashes during tourney).

China's Nuke Cannon is my favorite unit.
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post Nov 19 2009, 10:24 PM

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from generals to ra3 talk..
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post Nov 19 2009, 10:27 PM

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china infantry general is IMBA!!!
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QUOTE(heaven @ Nov 19 2009, 10:14 PM)
C&C Generals? it was good before Zero Hour came, did manage to win when local WCG hosted 2v2 for C&C Generals(the PC used that time causes loads of crashes during tourney).

China's Nuke Cannon is my favorite unit.
mana ada?

Zero Hour was the better one, C&C Generals was lacking in many areas.

ZH you get EMP general! (w00t, emp works well against stupid AI), then the aurora bombers. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 20 2009, 01:08 AM

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best for lan games
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how can it be best for LAN games when got other games around? smile.gif depends on choice la. C&C:G-ZH is really fun when you launch 12 scuds. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 20 2009, 02:03 AM

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I think Zero Hour is fun but not that great at all - if you got the counter unit, your opposition is pretty much screwed, e.g.

Scenario 1, 1 humvee & 1 avenger vs 8 missile defender, winner = humvee avenger, why because avenger can deflect 8 incoming missiles without breaking a sweat, while humvee feast on the hapless missile defender, no need to run them over.

Scenario 2, incoming horde of China Infantry and/or GLA what cha call that spawn rebel anywhere general point skill, being held off my 3 pathfinders.

Scenario 3, dozen of King Raptors inbound your base, fret' not, Quad Cannon, Gattling Tank and Avenger will drag all those down to earth in a half blink of an eye. Even Minigunner can shoot ‘em down with relative ease, and King Raptor need to manually aim target infantry otherwise each volley (6 to 8 missiles) will hit only 1 target.

Scenario 4, the USA F-117 is utterly useless except for flushing insurgents out from their tunnel, palace, and probably buildings. Complete retard IMO.

Scenario 5, laser turret can shoot nuke cannon as long as there's something else / unit to shoot in front of the nuke cannon, looks like a richochet. Nuke cannon is a disappointment if you look at it from Terran Siege Tank point of view. A row of laser turret can really hold the line really good.

Scenario 6, there's no way you can stop incoming Auroras from destroying your super weapon, Stealth SCUD Storm may have better survivability due to its stealth buildings. IIRC 7 Auroras and/or 5 Alpha Auroras can take out super weapon facility.

Scenario 7, Overlord + ECM tank combo being overwhelmed by horde of RPG trooper, ECM have tendencies to zap vehicle within range so use Quad Cannons to either distract 'em or destroy it all together. ECM can still be damage with RPG troops and/or buggies in sufficient numbers, i.e. 10 or more focus fire.

Scenario 8, humvee with TOW + 3 missile defender + pathfinder + humvee that heals can pretty much pawn every land unit with its kiting technique, i.e. go within shooting range, back away, stop, back away, rinse, repeat.


However ZH can be pretty micro intense, and from the replay I’ve seen GLA multiple attack can be very impressive, e.g. distract opponent then send in technical full of suicide bombers, target their tech building, e.g. palace, dual flanking tunnel with buggies and/or bus full of RPGs, etc.

Miscellaneous . . .

My favorite unit = Alpha Aurora, the #1 glass cannon unit. Like to mass Quad Cannons. Will be very pissed when my airfield with 4 Auroras being take control by enemy. Like Air Force general the most albeit never really did master ‘em. One time was playing against China AI and their Black Lotus can take over building while running around – wth!? Demolition General SCUD Storm my favorite super weapon. Dragon tank has great potential for clearing bases, i.e. supply lines. EMP turret is so annoyingly effectively its almost retard a defense building. Demolition bike is unpredictably effective.

Infinite resource generator building, .e.g supply drop zone, internet something something and black market somewhat promote camping and long dragged out games, e.g. LASER GENERAL, camping, seal their base with laser turret, backup turret with Commanches, get Aurora and particle cannon, bomb opponent back to stone age, waltz into their base and take ‘em down. Etc.


I'd say there's better RTS games for LAN, W3 and SC being the obvious choice, DoW series & RA3 looks good but never got to try it out, etc. AoE too complicated for me simple mind.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Nov 19 2009, 08:08 PM)
I mean RA3's potiential in terms of competitive gaming.

It's almost perfect.

It's good enough for casual play.
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I don't think any of the C&C games have bothered to go for competitive gaming since Red Alert.

Do the newer C&C games even have a matchmaking/ladder system in place? I don't know since I never owned any of them and I notice not many ppl actually talking about it.

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