i interested on pioneer 520 too...

wondering will it perform better if pair with Onkyo HT-S3300 5.1 speaker if compare with stock Infinity TSS500?

how about compare Onkyo HT3300 and Pioneer HTP-TSS51?

hi guys... just to want to check whether anyone tried VSX-820 to play mp3 music files from USB pendrive?

thanks for reply...

anyway, any other recommended speaker set pair with 520/820?
s-rs3tb seem no my taste, prefer something look alike Onkyo HTP-380 (HT-S3300's s peaker) but with active woofer...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Feb 5 2011, 10:53 AM

but 920 definitely over my budget...

actually i prefer 5.1 instead as i will locate it at living area only...
may worse that i may locate all 5 speakers on top of my TV cabinet... that why i dont think for 7.1...

or i should go for Onkyo HT-S3300 instead? but bad that it come with passive sub...

as your experience, can i pair 580 with onkyo skf 330f? any possibility bottleneck 580's performance? i read thru the pioneer catalaog which i got from harvey norman, seem todoroki setup seem should be cheaper but i dislike floor stand design and used some space... still prefer alike S3300's speaker size...

r u joking?

i tried to use media player > HDMI > TV > RCA > Hifi, the audio quality very unclear
end up, i do direct from media player > RCA > Hifi, the audio quality crispy than TV 1000% even though stereo mode

hence one of my neighour used high end 3.1 floor stand speaker paired with AV receiver (cost him Rm8k last 2 year ago as info), the audio quality definitely enough to posion me... unless i have a dedicated AV Room for sure will located surround speaker at other location...

yup as what my neighbour comments, some of small speaker are stronger and louder than floor stander, but still small speaker lack of drivers to create different frequencies with proper sound... correct me if wrong... anyway, i still prefer small speaker as i dont need the loudness and look neater...

but i guess i have no choices for surround effects with 2 rear speakers unless i can mount both speakers on my ceiling but the height almost 11 feet, wondering i can heard anything or not... but if i install with speaker stand, i worry my baby may hurt accidentally... any advice?


i have no other choices lo bro... i looking for the receiver which can support HDMI IN and most of them support 5.1 and above, dont have any 3.1 or 2.1... unless i planned for clean music only for vocal/concert type like Teresa Teng type, i will go for tube amp which only 2.0/2.1 but for sure cost a bomb easily if planned for good vocal, as heard from my boss that hi-end cable can cost easily Rm2k-5k and one of his business partner spent RM200k-300k for AV whole system...

anyway, i did a survery around and most probably end up with pioneer HTP-820SW, is it good enough to start with? i guess i have no other choices as budget constraint, otherwise i will go for better & smaller speaker ...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Feb 6 2011, 10:03 PM

my sofa seat located at the middle of living area, so no wall behind the sofa and it is walking area, that what i afraid of the speaker may hurt someone if it fall down...

u means 3300 or 330? about the cross u means the audio crossover? still learning here... as refer to the 3300's manual, frequency range of sub between 80-150hz and speaker between 80-20khz... so thought that 120-150hz can generate from sub and speaker right?

actually htp-820sw's ES3 speaker have any differences with todoroki speaker? as i know todoroki more for explosion which wasnt my taste... as checked the latest catalog of pioneer, seem the specification no different at all between ES3 and torodoki, so wondering the ES3 will have more clarity since it located at different category?

actually i looking at onkyo 308 previously, but all of onkyo required to get additional dock for iphone/idock and cost some money there... so i maybe rather invest it into 820 as it built in... hence quite difficult that to find good speakers with reasonable price to pair with 308... hence, i'm noob... so that why i go for htp-820sw...

seem 3300 out from my list as subwoofer no upgrade-able to active...

as may tended to relocate surround speaker in the future, that the reasons i choose 820sw which come with small surround speaker, smaller than 330 i think... actually i proposed my wife to get todoroki which is 100% same size, she commented that the design are fugly which same as what i thinking... rather pay few hundred buck for proper design... so maybe have the performance differences between ES3 and todoroki too?

previous post? u means Post #741? no managed to search ES3 around pioneer thread... hm... i dont have any skf330 on hand for testing and my store room full of junks, cant buy additional speaker for short term only... hence my wife no allowed my junks inside her store room in the future

the reason i required for USB or iphone dock to prevent my wife complain that the AV receiver is "downgrade" if compare to my current hifi which can support for USB now...

actually i means HTP-820SW as HiTB as it come with packages, should for one of high-end HiTB

i also know tak-boleh-pakai HiTB below RM2k and no much differences with my current hifi, usually HiTB complete set selling at hypermarket for sure no enough to fulfill my requirements and difficult to upgrade too as i experienced with my current hifi... hence just look on the size & weight of player, i dont think small size but big power & more features... as my boss commented, he said that his tube amp weight almost 30kg and power consumption almost same with 1hp a/c...

Edit:
did another research about the speaker, seem there have some sort of "passive radiator", seem it look more a "dummy" driver, means no frequency generate from passive radiator but used to balance the internal air turbulence as refer from wiki... any more benefit about passive radiator? wondering why dont build smaller speaker since only have 3 active driver there...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Feb 7 2011, 01:37 PM

actually space wasnt the major issues for me...
i required to relocate some of home appliances and reserve the space for floor stander, still headache about the relocation...
hence the eye visual issues that floor stander paired with my 32" LCD and subwoofer almost the same size with it...
afraid may end up i fork out additional funds upgrade to 42"/60" next year...

i'm interested on speaker stand too... what is the height & weight of the speaker stand?

i did a fast audition 2 channel stereo between
onkyo 508 + MS carnial set + good cable
Pioneer 520 + todoroki set + stock cable
with same CD music...

508 + MS: music quality quite adequate, vocal and bass quite balance, impressed for this setup...
later i try 520 + todoroki, the bass damm deep even though without subwoofer and cant heard the vocal clearly too, my ear felt a bit unwell bcos of the deep bass from front speaker only...

wondering will the amp (508 & 520) & cable (stock & good) made the huge differences?
or what i heard from audition is the real differences between MS carnival and todoroki?

This post has been edited by gkl83: Feb 10 2011, 05:10 PM

i did try at style laser just now... but 520 located at the groud open area, quite shame if asked to move 520 to 1st floor to test with carnival... chinese young guy (Lee as believe) said that the 508 is almost same quality with 520/820... so nothing i can comments much as he is the expertise in this field...

anyway, no understand for this statement "the torodoki is far worse than the MS carnival didn't have as much clarity as the MS carnival"... u means have pros and cons between both? as tested carnival have more clarity (maybe bcos of 508?) compare with todoroki, but todoroki more for louness and bass (wasnt my taste)... but of cos over my budget seriouly with pair with carnival... need few months saving from now...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Feb 10 2011, 05:45 PM

quite agreed, i can feel like the sound quality look alike karaoke's speaker quality... my ear quite uncomfortable on the bass...
hence may no suitable for HT too as no good vocal from speaker...

i think carnival setup most probably confirmed, i need clarity more than boom... i will try to request for another 520 + carnival testing before purchase and will look around Desa HT kepong for similiar audition setup... hopefully the similiar setup is ready for demo at Desa HT kepong without creating the hassle as i disklike create hassle but no busines deal with them...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Feb 10 2011, 06:19 PM

seem PSB smaller, lighter & cheaper offering by A&L...
wondering how good is the PSB speaker compare to MS carnival...

try to
• Switch the receiver off, then on again.
• Reconnect the USB device with the receiver switched off.
• Select another input source (like BD), then switch back to iPod USB.

tested RS33 (todoroki) & 820SW (ES3) just now at HN...
audited without subwoofer and set volume 42 by same CD music...

RS33 front speaker really a boom boom box without doubt...
820SW front speaker treble slightly better and very little bass...
at least the bass can under control by subwoofer by the volume knob...
most probably will end up with 820SW instead without confusing myself...

i dont think can passby...
but still what the heck u want to enjoy high quality audio from TV if u got AV receiver?