made in wat country?

how does a hdmi cable unlock the full potential of ps3?

Even High speed category cable, there's also bandwidth rate like 4.95Gbps, 6.68Gbps or 10.2Gbps, etc. High speed is a general category. You need to know what bandwidth too.

I actually addressing more on the confusion on 'All HDMI are the same, it's digital, either you get the signal or not" topic.

Everybody is just following the same bandwagon, because of some 'experts' wrote some article based on his/her opinions.

If you look at the begining of this thread, everybody is very confident that all HDMI are the same and very proud of it they got a good deal. Most of them bought from Tesco.

Because I'm selling Monster cables, my words does not carry weight.

Most of the audiophiles here who believes and using high performance cables did not respond to this thread, and I know who are they. I'm sure you all know why.

Monoprice cables are considered cheap, as it's coming from China factories who mass produce HDMI cables. It has no difference with Tesco cables. Because they purchase in huge bulks, they can sell it even cheaper. High speed? Who certified that?

Monster cables has certifications from THX, DTS, Dolby, SimplayHD, ISF, ROHS compliant, etc.

These are renowed organisations which have stringent requirements before giving out these certifications.

So, now it's not the matter what cable is best, it's more like what you want to believe and trust. And that's personal.

10.2Gps is only USD11 for 10 feet

This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Aug 14 2010, 11:18 PM

PS3 produce 1080p resolution games. If you uses standard speed HDMI cable, you can only see 720p or 1080i resolutions.

Standard speed HDMI cable cannot cope with the high bandwidth coming from your PS3 to your TV to achieve 1080p.

May be I won't say "that's a pack of lie" - but quite close to it. My cable is cheapo and standard, but for sure it gives me 1080p resolution. I owned both fat and slim version of them and used the same cheapo cable to watch BD, all are 1080p reolution, after I gave them away I used the same cable on media player and denon BD player, all were of 1080p quality. Anyway, not trying to ruin anyone's rice bowl but I have got to give the other side of the story if i think someone mislead people by giving false information.

earlier you mentioned cheapo HDMI cables

now you mention Standard speed HDMI cable

are you implying that cheapo HDMI cables = standard speed HDMI cables? gee, i guess that PS3 gamers must now be filled with Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt about their cheapo HDMI cables that the only way that can relieve themselves is to rush out and spend RM230 on Monster® Gamelink™ HDMI Cable that is Engineered for the PS3 to enjoy gaming full 1080p glory. cos maybe when their TV is playing tricks on them when it says 1080p on the info, or it just isn't 1080p even though it says it is.

the only way to be sure and MOST JUSTIFIABLE is to buy and use Monster. MONSTER cable!!!

This is where you are incorrect. Some of these articles are not just based on opinion but are based on actual tests.

Let me ask you, do you know what are the specs or standards from these "THX, DTS, Dolby, SimplayHD, ISF, ROHS compliant, etc." insofar as it relates to HDMI performance? You are simply parroting what is on the label/packaging without really understanding if they have any real impact or not on HDMI performance. Like ROHS, do you know what it is all about? Let me enlighten you:



It's a content safety standard, nothing at all to do with HDMI performance.

The main relevant certification is the HDMI Compliance Test Specification. Do you know if some/all of the Monster HDMI cables have official Category 2 certification? I looked the Monster's website but could not find any thing about official Category 2 certification.

This post has been edited by jchong: Aug 15 2010, 12:26 AM

by the way, only a handful of PS3 games actually output in 1080p. Most are in 720p. For example: http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/PlaySta...s/td-p/40598880

BTW, I also call bollocks on the assertion a regular HDMI cable can't cope with the high bandwidth from the PS3. I may not be an audiophile, but my TV AND the PS3 have gone thru the built in PS3 resolution tests and they indicate I'm watching BD in 1080p.

Please refer to this. That fact is not coming from me, but HDMI.org.


http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/...ight_cable.aspx

Finding the Right Cable
With the release of the HDMI 1.4 specification, there are now five HDMI cable types to choose from, each designed to meet a particular performance standard. Here is an overview of the HDMI cable types, their capabilities, and how to tell them apart.

To help consumer and clarify cable types further, all HDMI cable products will now be required to be labeled by cable type. Look for these labels when choosing the HDMI cable that is best for your needs.

Standard HDMI Cable
The Standard HDMI cable is designed to handle most home applications, and is tested to reliably transmit 1080i or 720p video – the HD resolutions that are commonly associated with cable and satellite television, digital broadcast HD, and upscaling DVD players.

High Speed HDMI Cable
The High Speed HDMI cable is designed and tested to handle video resolutions of 1080p and beyond, including advanced display technologies such as 4K, 3D, and Deep Color. If you are using any of these technologies, or if you are connecting your 1080p display to a 1080p content source, such as a Blu-ray Disc player, this is the recommended cable.

that's too high to make an impact

Monster's price is just low enough to entice a neophyte into thinking it's that much better than a Monoprice Cat 2 certified HDMI cable

See all the terms are getting mixed up. You say "regular" meaning stock HDMI cable or the one you can get from Tesco.

Standard Speed HDMI is another thing altogether - it's certified to perform reliably for 720p/1080i ... but it doesn't mean that it cannot deliver 1080p (all HDMI versions since 1.0 support 1080p)

So if you get a category 1 HDMI cable, it will work for 1080p but you can't complain if there's dropouts etc

This post has been edited by SiriuslyCold: Aug 15 2010, 01:36 AM

Thanks for the link and info . So it says - as long as it is high speed, it will do. THanks for telling us why we do not need to buy Monster to get a fullhd resolution. If high speed can be had at RM10, why we need to pay 100+ for one.

Since what I bought at RM10 a cheapo cable can output fullhd resolution - it must be a high-speed cable. And so I searched amazon further, voila, found one lagi best deal -
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Sp...81807729&sr=1-2
AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable (6.5 Feet/2.0 Meters) [Supports 3D + Audio Return Channel] for just US6.99

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Added on August 15, 2010, 2:06 amoh, I found this in HDMI.org

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While many cables that are branded as Standard cables will work at higher speeds (especially at cable lengths of less than five meters), to guarantee performance, consumers should purchase a cable that is tested and rated for the specific speed required by their system.
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that's great news indeed

also did not see any mentioning of "premium cable" gives better audio and video in the HDMI.org

This post has been edited by wuanzi: Aug 15 2010, 02:06 AM

Again, you are twisting the facts and confusing people.

U keep using inconsistent terminology hoping to argue that the normal cable most people are using is not good enough for 1080p. So let me ask you:

1. Do you know for certain that the 'normal' or 'cheapo' or 'regular' cables that most people use are standard speed only? Maybe these cables can fall into the high speed category?
2. Most people have already reported that their 'normal' or 'cheapo' or 'regular' cable can support 1080p. What does this imply?

I also asked you earlier if Monster HDMI cables are Cat 2 (High Speed) certified. U haven't answered me yet.

SimplayLabs
http://www.simplaylabs.com/index.aspx

Simplay Labs is the Leader in HD Solutions delivering HD performance standards, testing services, development tools, technologies, and consulting services for manufacturers of CE and PC products.

Simplay HD Verified Products
http://www.simplaylabs.com/consumers/allpr...=4&cname=Cables

There's a list of Monster cables verified by SimplayLabs. It spells out the bandwidth and other specifications.

If this also you cannot trust, then please stick to brandless cables.



1. Do you know for certain that the 'normal' or 'cheapo' or 'regular' cables that most people use are standard speed only? Maybe these cables can fall into the high speed category?
You are also based on your own feelings and opinions judging that this cables are 1080p certified cables. Proof it. Who certified it?

2. Most people have already reported that their 'normal' or 'cheapo' or 'regular' cable can support 1080p. What does this imply?
Most people? how many people do you know and understand about video quality. If they see picture and the TV shows 1080p, they agreed.
I play DVD using HDMI, my TV also shows 1080p, so does it means it's really 1080p?

I also asked you earlier if Monster HDMI cables are Cat 2 (High Speed) certified. U haven't answered me yet.
Look at SimplayHD verified cables site. http://www.simplaylabs.com/consumers/allpr...=4&cname=Cables

With all the certifications by all this renowed organisations cannot convinced you, then I think that's not a problem on the facts, but more to your personal feelings about it.

Maybe many get ticks off by the price of this premium cables, but quality is quality, there's no 2 way about it.

This post has been edited by DigitalTech: Aug 15 2010, 11:01 AM

lol


This post has been edited by C.T. Seong: Aug 15 2010, 11:02 AM

THX

THX has a special page on their website and advert for Monster cable.
http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertain...ed-hdmi-cables/


What are the Benefits of THX Certified HDMI Cables?

Pristine source signal: Ensures the source signal is never degraded.
Thoroughly tested: Ensures the highest standards for quality and usability across specific cable speeds and distances.


THX HDMI cable certification includes a series of electrical tests to ensure the integrity of the HD signal is maintained from device to device without introducing digital artifacts and noise. This protects you from any unexpected surprises once your home theater system is installed, connected and engaged.

This post has been edited by DigitalTech: Aug 15 2010, 11:08 AM

I can trust those certifications which are trustworthy. I was simply asking you for the info.

In this case Simplay Labs is a HDMI ATC so I would say they are trustworthy. In looking at the link you gave I also notice many other verified cables, some of which seem to be brandless like the 1st one: "11 Meter (24AWG) HDMI Cable". So perhaps even sticking to brandless cables like you suggested is ok right?

Even Best Buy has some verified cables. Wow.

I have no idea if the cheap cables are certified or not. My point is that you are automatically implying that they are standard speed. I am saying that they might be capable of supporting high speed.

The issue is whether the cable can support a 1080p signal. If you play DVD using HDMI and that picture is upscaled to 1080p the picture might not be as good quality as true 1080p content but the signal is a 1080p signal right?

Thanks for answering my question. What it convinces me is that Monster has sent their cables for testing and it meets certain test specifications. Good for them.

But it doesn't convince me that Monster cables (or other premium branded cables) provide superior video quality compared to other cheaper certified cables. Yeah, the ones from monoprice or Tesco we do not know if they are certified or not. So let's compare to a known certified cable like the BJC Series F2. The ATC cert can be viewed here: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-c...s/f2cat2atc.pdf A 6' length of this HDMI cable is US$17.00 - not super cheap but still much cheaper than many premium branded cables.

So you are saying that Monster cables would provide superior video quality compared to the BJC Series F2?

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Added on August 15, 2010, 12:01 pmYes, indeed THX has a special page for Monster. I would imagine that the THX standards should be fairly stringent too.

Anyway, seems the THX certification only applies to the High Speed 700; Ultra High Speed 900; and Ultimate High Speed 1000. So some of those cables you sell like the Ultra 600, 800 and 1000 - do these have THX cert?

This post has been edited by jchong: Aug 15 2010, 12:09 PM

Q. Do I need to buy a v1.3 HDMI cable to play my PS3?

Typically, no. Any Cat 1, Type A cable will work, especially if the cable is under 10 Meters.

Q. What are the technical and branding requirements for cables?

While many cables that are branded as Standard cables will work at higher speeds (especially at cable lengths of less than five meters), to guarantee performance, consumers should purchase a cable that is tested and rated for the specific speed required by their system.

All from HDMI.org, these two Q&A's just render your whole argument invalid.

Everyone just keep your cables under 5 meters and you're fine.

This post has been edited by paradis3lost: Aug 15 2010, 12:06 PM

Cable type and version are 2 different things.

v1.3 does not means is high speed or vice versa.

Please refer to the cable type in HDMI.org.

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/...ight_cable.aspx


With any kind of HDMI cable, you still can play PS3 games. I did say that you cannot use it at all. But you may not experience 1080p.

But with a 32" or 42" TV, and sitting about 10-15 feet away, you may not tell the difference.

I am addressing to those gamers who are serious in quality.



Q. What are the technical and branding requirements for cables?

While many cables that are branded as Standard cables will work at higher speeds (especially at cable lengths of less than five meters), to guarantee performance, consumers should purchase a cable that is tested and rated for the specific speed required by their system.

where to get this ;D